kieranperez

I feel like intuitively I'm still at a cross between Orange and Green and stuck because I'm living with people that don't let me go into Green. I've thought about making friends that are Yellow/Turquoise but I don't anyone my age (I'm 23) that at that level of development and to be honest, what would make a healthy Yellow and Turquoise want to hangout and be friends with people that are at my level? Highly developed people at that level would probably want to hangout with people at their level and above wouldn't they?

After watching @Leo Gura‘s video on “Life is a Maze” I remember him saying how rats who’ve escaped the maze want to help us other rats escape as well and sometimes even for free. Not long after that I said fuck it and emailed Peter Ralston and called Shunyamurti at his ashram/community on burning questions I’ve had and I couldn’t believe how I actually got a response. That really was what floored me more than the answers I got to my questions. I mean, Ralston got back to me literally in a couple hours. I called Sat Yoga and they put me on the phone with Shunyamurti who happened to be available. I couldn’t believe it. These people who’ve really mastered themselves genuinely want to help you. There’s people are available to you. If you can’t afford to pay thousands of dollars for an enlightenment intensive or meditation retreat or solo retreat - I understand that, that’s where I am - go hit these people up! What other field or domain of life in the world where you have someone that’s an absolute utter expert and master to the core of all of life be available to you for free over email? I mean, if you’re a quarterback on football team and you need help from the best like Tom Brady, good luck trying to get in contact with him. If you’re a scientist, good luck trying to get in contact with a big named scientist. If you need business advice from the best, good luck hitting up Bill Gates or someone of that magnitude. And guess what? This is the most important field - as far as I’m concerned - to develop really mastery in. If you’re stuck on this path, hit someone up!

For me it was almost like I was given some sort of approval or sense of confirmation that my deep fascination, curiosity, and inspiration for the deepest and wisest truths and parts of being alive actually are worth pursuing and are important. That these questions can be answered and that feeling when I'm by myself alone in solitude in the woods, on a trail running, slowly and deeply savoring this reality like a fine meal mindfully eaten actually is something I can live my life every day as. Not even the enlightenment stuff because there are a lot of people who pursue enlightenment half-heartedly and still don't get to the core of aligning their life very simply yet very deeply.

YOU CAN BECOME CONSCIOUS OF THIS?!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

What a pathetic response. Yeah that’s what I was thinking. What god would Salvia be though?

Were the Greek gods just a concept or metaphor to allude to the divinity of all things much like in Hinduism and all their different gods? We know looking back that there are enlightened people from that time such as Heraclitus also with the Eleusinian Mysteries.

I’ve been reading that neurofeedback benefits are short lived. Have you found this to be the case? I really need something to help me with my ADHD now that I got off 17 years of Adderall back in January. I would do nootropics but it doesn’t seem like it really changes anything after you get off them and I’m kinda tired of pills after almost 2 decades LOL. I don’t want to use them if I don’t have to anymore. Happy for you by the way. I know what that’s like. I was diagnosed with Type 2 Bipolaras well and in addition to Adderall was on Lithium, Lamicitil, Abilify, and Prozac (have been on many others when my psychiatrist was experimenting with “what would work”). Much love

Have I found it?: Yes Am I aligned with it yet?: No. Not at all. Understand that a lot of your questions depend upon how ambitious a persons life purpose is, how far out of alignment they are from the life purpose that they create by the time they finished the course, their current circumstances, etc. What you’re going through is totally normal and fine. I have friends in the music industry (electronic) and a lot of them that have become successful (I don’t know if you know the Dubstep producer Jauz whose gotten big now, I took him to his first rave and introduced him to the whole thing) took the easy way out and sure they make A LOT of money but guess what? They’re fucking sellouts that are miserable and do coke off a girl’s ass just to have a smile. Work on your craft like no other, find your unique sound, do what you gotta do to not be a starving artist and get your name out, etc. Life Purpose is arbitrary. It’s a synthetic you come up with whether you create it in a course or if you find it on accident. For me it was really tricky. I had to look past the passions that have gotten me to where I am now and take all that I’ve been learning from enlightenment work and all that goes with going down this little rabbit hole and I really intuited that this is the most important thing I can do with my life even though I’ve never even had any enlightenment experiences. You gotta really use your intuition. For me, running has been my bread and butter passion for the last 11 years of my life. I’ve gotten to know Olympians and become friends with world class coaches. In a sense it’d be a lot easier if I made that my life purpose. I know a lot of people, I know a lot about it more than most coaches in terms of theory and different perspectives and see things very differently, I know the ropes of how to get access to people and connections, etc. However, when I read the story of people like Om Swami, Ramana Maharshi, Christ, Buddha, and even @Leo Gura, I cry when I hear them talk about this stuff. When I read their stories. What they went through. The kinda insights and self mastery that’s possible. What these people sacrificed for this path that seems ABSOLUTELY CRAZY is extraordinary. I’d rather make my life that and do something like those guys than just be some really good coach or something that guides egotistical athletes to run fast and achieve a bunch of stuff that means nothing. I saw all of that to help give you the perspective that sometimes your most authentic life purpose is something far different and out there from what you’re used to.

Are you referring to neurofeedback training? Cut your ignorance and dogma. Stop being snob and some elitist. It’s a technology like psychedelics, meditation, etc. if it works, it works.

I’m not talking about me. I’m talking about from that time in history, if that was the message they who came up with this theosophy. I like understanding and learning about different spiritual cultures and traditions of history.

The heron comes out of the forest and returns home with gold and it’s turned to ashes.

I’ve been noticing that whenever I argue, see people down the street yelling at each other, see a viral video that’s about people getting into each other’s face or fighting, even looking at ESPN where you have people debating about sports teams and athletes and stuff - all human interspersonal problems and I may even go as far as to say all human interaction (but I want to investigate further before I make such a claim), is in some way shape or form seem to be about truth. I’m not saying that people are consciously pursuing the “real truth”. I’m pointing out that whenever you look at people arguing, “the truth” is really the real topic of the matter. Whether you’re talking about the weather, talking about all the problems in the world, spirituality, whose the best basketball player of all time (Michael Jordan...), etc.

Gee I wonder what book you got that from... and what booklist that suggested said book...

It’s so funny looking back on this even though it wasn’t even 2 years ago even. This is a PERFECT example given people’s reaction to Jim Carrey of how far we are from a Turquoise world. Here you have a world famous celebrity in Jim Carrey who was off the map for a bit before this interview being interviewed and exemplifying such incredible authenticity and of course, no one gets it and they demonize, laugh, and ridicule in their own drooling, sheepish, zombie like way. Moderb pop culture will not understand or feel comfortable with real authenticity. Their career is revolves around posturing, putting on masks, roles, and spewing bullshit. I just find it to be such a good example given that Jim Carrey is such a famous celebrity and being interviewed by an organization that represents the level of consciousness and development of most people... at least in western culture.

He's actually been in several different talks with people like Tolle and such talking Kundalini, nonduality, no self, etc. Seems legit... which is crazy to me because it's fucking Jim Carrey lol More like appearing psychotic

That looks awesome. Definitely going to check this out!

Yeah I’m just more talking about all these conversations/interactions are based around claims about truth. Obviously it’s all mostly bullshit and self deception but still interesting what those conversations are really about.

It's not even the running thing every day from and to school and all that stuff. You can take Kenyans, Ethiopians, and those from those dominant East African countries who haven't run that much in their life and start training them and they'll still develop quick enough and eventually be dominant. Happens all the time. Particularly these days since Kenya for example is slowly but surely becoming more developed. You have athletes in the US who are training INCREDIBLY hard and get great results early on in middle and high school but then are fried and always getting hurt in college and post collegiately. That's why I don't take standout high school runners that seriously anymore. East Africans also, very interestingly are more dominant in more "shorter long distance stuff" up to say the marathon/50K. Put them in a stacked 100 miler with 20,000+ feet of vertical gain and loss at elevation and they'll get served on a platter. It's a much more even playing field in a certain sense the longer you go. It's really a combination of persistence hunting for hundreds of thousands of years at elevation for thousands of generations throughout human history if we're talking about genetics. I mean, runners from there to a very shocking extent have horrendous form and mechanics. You'd NEVER see say an American woman run with the form of a runner like Mary Keitany and be even sub 2:22 in the marathon. It's also hard to talk about this in running circles because it's so PC because we can't call out the reality of this whole thing. We have to pretend that it's just because of hard work and make a whole inspiring marketing campaign about it and turn it into this Stage Red/Orange mentality of "I'm the best because I train harder than you. Talent doesn't exist." People don't want to acknowledge their gifts... and then they go thanking Christ and God as though Christ was some figure who died so we can all be success chasers... that's a tangent though LOL Same thing in spiritual circles too though with people who meditation or contemplating for hours and hours and hours and hours and it comes more naturally to them and have better concentration than most people and stuff.

THIS I feel like we need a post that just hammers on this point alone. I see people using Spiral Dynamics as this rigid thing. It's a useful model like Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. People take this thing way too seriously and neurotically, trying to create this imaginary perfected character. I see all of this forum and in other YouTube videos now of people taking Spiral Dynamics way too damn seriously, talking about "embody every single stage" and all this stuff and it's like "SLOW THE FUCK DOWN MAN!" It doesn't work that way. Calm down and take this model less seriously.

@Salvijus @Girzo @Azrael @Shin Heres another lead on how to do this: I assume you guys are probably familiar with Buddha At The Gas Pump? Well, go to their website ( batgap.com ) and literally scroll around through their guest index and there’s usually a link to a website of their guests. Go that website and contact them. Think of it like cold calling. Obviously, some guests like Ken Wilber, Mooji, Rupert Spira, Deepak Chopra, Adyahshanti or Shinzen Young you might not be able to get ahold of. However, you can definitely find people on there that’ll answer back to you. I remember stories of Kobe Bryant who would cold call people out of the blue in other industries totally different from his (he’d hit up movie directors, writers, business people, etc) just to get a variety of different perspectives and learn from other masters. Also, you can also treat this as a chance to learn other nondual perspectives that your path maybe missing. For example, if you’re pursuing say Tantra hardcore, go hit say Francis Bennett who comes at this from this Christian mysticism and nondual point of view that your yogic perspectives might be missing. See what you might be missing. These people want to help you.

If you’re not going to stick to the topic of the post then don’t comment. If you’re answer to everything here on this thread “you don’t know whose enlightened” “you don’t know what enlightenment is” the no one can really have a conversation on pretty much anything. You want to doubt every teacher then you can go ahead and do that. Yeah, I don’t know what enlightenment is experientially. All concepts are derived from experience. By your notion, @Leo Gura was in no position to talk about enlightenment years ago. If you don’t want to stick to the topic then dont fill up this thread with all these spiritual quotes and all this nonsense.

STFU and stop being some non-dual spiritual snob and total know-it-all. Don't like my posts? Don't agree with them? Just going to be a know-it-all? Run along then. People on here don't need snobs. For real. This clown is just posturing like some non-dual elitist.

Would you say he himself is Yellow?