kieranperez

That’s creepy af

Wow... RIP to one of the great Bodhisattvas of 20th & 21st century.. ??♥️

This a ridiculously stupid comment. How is a member supposed to be able to do that with everything they buy? You're able to find actual honest revenue numbers when it comes to the various service providers you utilize? That's just silly dude.

Yes and who you are is incongruent based on what you are defined as as a "legal entity" in the eyes of the law but that has nothing to do with the truth now does it? Lying is lying. If you actually watch the damn video and you are informed even to the slightest bit you will know companies do in fact get in trouble with this stuff. You can find articles online that contain "facts" about crime rates for example in predominantly black neighborhoods in America but is presented in such a way to endorse a biased view that is geared towards inflaming a racial prejudice towards black people and black communities all the while leaving out bigger picture and honest perspectives and facts. Using "facts" and couching them in a POV, a perspective, whether it be in journalism or advertising (or both) to distort what's actually true is dishonest and manipulative.

@hyruga you're assuming lying is just something akin to you asking me whether or not I had breakfast and if I didn't and I just tell you I did. When you really experience what honesty is an experiential principle you'll discover honesty is not just presenting basic facts but rather about accurately conveying what's true. The examples listed in this video is using "facts" to present a dishonest a view of things so as manipulate one's motives for selfish person. In other words, it's still lying. If you want to get into the fine minutia about the "line" between deception and lying (which ultimately there isn't any real line between the two as they motivated by the same to perform the same function at the end of the day) then go ahead but it's an irrelevant one as far as I'm concerned. People use facts so as formulate and fabricate lies all the time my man.

Just like one can have many mystical experiences and still be a nazi (which actually happened in WW2 believe it or not).

Tbh I doubt there would be much difference when it comes to who facilitates. If you’re interested in working with Cheng Hsin you could always just do other enlightenment intensives as that’s basically the format they do if they aren’t doing their more unique workshops like ENB or TEL or something like that.

Highly recommend you go to a Cheng Hsin retreat over Spira’s. Peter doesn’t really facilitate workshops anymore. He only really facilitates apprentices at this point but he drops down every day if you do a workshop like ENB, IEW, or a CI. Brendan is a great facilitator. The whole retreat is concentrated on you having a breakthrough and does a great job not deviating from that. At the end of the day though, the concentration to stay focused and on target is on you even if you go to a retreat.

@Raze Read what I said again. I don’t call it a cult because I don’t like it. Bentinho Massaro is a worshipped personality in his community and is doing the classic cult tactic of deluding his followers that he and his movement are going to bring about new world change through enlightenment (garbage). He also peddles bullshit ideologies that his followers gobble up like how movie companies are secretly withholding secret technology or some sort of bullshit along that kind of flavor. Again, let me be very clear again, I don’t doubt he’s had an enlightenment experience. As far as I can tell he has but that doesn’t mean he’s peddling genuine stuff to people. As far as I’ve seen, as I’ve already seen, he transmits a certain state that people get hooked to that usually put them into a rather suggestible state. This is true of any teacher that puts out things like shaktipat or even use things like psychedelics. The difference is whether or not it’s abused and as far as I can tell people are being led astray, getting sucked into a community, and believing in horse shit. Real teachers don’t do that. Ralston used to put out the same state up until the early 90s when he saw it was just a distraction where people would just get hooked to him and he stopped putting that out for people and told people to scram if the weren’t committed to getting what’s true which has nothing to do with states. Cults by and large try to get people to stick around. Real communities or organizations empower you not to rely or need them. And I mean FOR REAL. Not lip service. FOR REAL. The profit and money this guy is making off this stuff as a business should raise a red flag. There’s a reason Jesus got angry and flipped over the money table in the temples because the temple isn’t the place to charge for that which is priceless.

Dude is running a cult. Funny how when he was put on the spot for his claim of siddhis to change the weather straight up nothing happened. I don't really have any doubt that he seems to have had an enlightenment experience. That said, he's running a cult and a greedy one at that that's making him rich off of it. As far as I can tell the people who follow him get hooked by a transmission of a certain state of his that he puts out for people. This is understandable but the best teachers don't pull that stuff because the recognize the danger of it.

how did you find it?

No. It's completely natural. It's called the majority of human history. The idea that your espousing that doing stuff that doesn't "bring you joy" (which presumes external things or activities you engage in are the source of joy in your own experience) is one that wasn't truly born until the beginning of the postmodern emergence in the 20th century.

Bump

You're going to be working with Soryu! I wish you the best with your endeavor as this stuff isn't always exactly the easiest decision to truly make, even when we know deep down that this call is what our hearts have been shouting and starving for. So I bow to your courage. I myself have been struggling on the fence with my decision to join a more formal monastery for some time. I think it's great that you found a container where your work is compatible enough with the schedule and demands of Monastic Academy. I'm going into real estate and I think there are just some jobs you simply can't work remote from in order to maintain your income so I congratulate you in things working out. Sorry for sure seems to be the real deal and I don't have any doubt that you'll experience some great training there. Stay with it and I have no doubt you'll get far. All the best to you, friend! ??

As do all ideas, thinking, and everything else that comes with an experience of self. The ego is also responsible for saving a puppy that’s about to get run over by a truck. That is not the point being made.

This post is honestly really spot. To tell you the truth, I’ve struggled with that myself as the kind of person this person talks about in her post probably does apply to me in some way. I would certainly say it 100% did a few years ago but I think I’m out of a lot of it now and I see a lot of what she talks about all the time and I can sympathize with that sort of frustration with bullshit because I see it all over the place, particularly on sites like this one where “people” are usually lumped into one big idea and are referred to as just deluded sheep or chimps and so forth and that “people are just wasting their lives”. When in fact many of those so called deluded a people are the ones that might not be the most educated but might be single parents holding down the fort for a house of 3 kids or working at a hospital or whatever. This person really did hit the nail on the head though when it came to the comment on doing a psychedelics and now thinking they know how the world works and using all these bullshit words almost as a form of jerking off. All because there’s anger in a communication doesn’t make it wrong. Jesus expressed a lot of anger when he flipped over the money tables in the temple. Same goes for judgement. You’re judging things all the time in the very way you perceive things. If you pull up on the block in East Los Angeles and you see 7 dudes dressed in all red that look at you with a fierce death glare, you're going to judge and you’d be a fool to rationalize otherwise. You’re judging and assessing this persons post, otherwise you’d have no disposition. Practice making good quality judgements. Which ironically is what this post seems to be an exercise in. A partial view that is calling out blatant spiritual bullshit by people that are ignorant of the privilege they inhabit while they parade some pseudo spiritual superiority or something because they think they’re onto something almost nobody else is on to. To some extent I think the behavior is kind of understandable and I think it does take some arrogance coming into this path because fundamentally it isn’t all that common and does tend to appear to grind against the grain when it comes to what most people seem to be up to. That said, there are also gross excesses that people, myself included, be really ignorant to because they don’t realize the kind of privilege they sit on.

@Leo Gura still thinking of moving there?

@Shambhu do you get to work with your teacher in person? How do you receive Shaktipat? Do you and your teacher live in the US?

So far as there is a process then purification literally is the path. None of these things are absolute or set in stone. No, you don’t need to because what’s already true is what’s already true. And yet there is also a process. It’s true, chakras and all this stuff have nothing to do with the absolute. In yet purification of the body/mind also helps. It helps when most of your focus isn’t lost in thoughts about pussy or your favorite tv show. And Peter is right. Plenty of teachers that even facilitate a spiritual process would agree on this point. Peter actually does facilitate certain processes. What do you all this emphasis is on honesty and experiencing all these other aspects of self, mind, principles, and so forth is? He just doesn’t facilitate people in the form of a belief system but helps people actually experience this stuff. @Shambhu nice to see some actual lineage on the forum finally. Careful though, there’s been a lot of corruption in that one like people Muktananda and Gurumayi

@Shambhu who is your guru?

First off big guy, it was a joke. So stay in your lane. Second off, I don't know what Leo knows or doesn't know and neither do you. So let's make that clear. I've yet to see this stuff really being talked about in that much depth that I've shared here as well as actual resources when it comes to working with attachment disturbances. I never said I'm the first to talk about it. I was intending to share resources and an understanding that, from my POV based on what I've seen and mores haven't seen, was lacking in the forum that I wanted to highlight and share as this is a really common thing that can cause a lot of deep issues for people in life as well as their contemplative endeavors.

@Leo Gura come on, no credit for sharing this on your forum before you posted on the blog? lol