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I still find Joe Rogan as a person quote refreshing, seeing how he’s able take and listen to so many perspectives and is pretty genuinely curious. I think it’s refreshing to have in modern culture and in popular media. He has his hiccups sure but his show isn’t about Truth or wisdom or anything not really his role nor what his show is about. Nor does it have to be nor should it be. I think Joe Rogan is a great person that I think people who are into pop culture could really learn something from. You also need to see that in the clip from 2:37 onward on his assessment of the monk, he’s actually looking at that from an altitude of Yellow. He’s looking at the monk as a perspective and regards it as such. Rogan loves perspectives. That his whole schtick. You need to notice how he’s making this analysis. I wouldn’t call Rogan Orange. As far as I’m concerned he’s a mature Green/Yellow. Rogan is interested in psychedelics, can sit with fucking Ben Shapiro and then talk with Graham Hancock to Sam Harris to a chef to an ultra endurance athlete to goddamn Alex Jones and hunts for the sake of not going with the disgusting way we treat animals through the way we farm and taking responsibility on that front. You need to digstinguish between the stage of development of certain perspectives and ideas he may see legitimacy and truth in and the man himself.

I've had a really hard time consoling myself with this reality. When I'm really in touch with my higher self, even on just a personality level, and I'm actually contemplating in one fashion or another and I have a profound insight even on just a relative level, I feel high. When I was really opening myself up and was contemplating light and realized I don't see light, I only see what stops light I was so happy I can't even explain it. That's one of the biggest excitements I have with consciousness work and when I read about people like da Vinci or go over Ralston's work. I miss learning. REALLY learning. However, I'm 24 with terrible self-esteem and I'm doing this summer sales gig of door-door sales just to earn enough money to move out. I feel like I'm selling my soul and even after this and even being clear on what I want, the reality of what my heart wants so FAR exceeds what I'm capacity to realistically pursue it because I feel so beaten down by my own years of detioriating self-esteem. I know there's no easy answer to this. I just feel so weak mentally. I'm going to use this exaggerated example... Imagine you really wanted to become a world champion body builder. Let's say you have the body and genes for it maybe. However, by the time you realize this vision you're out of shape and you're also in your late 20s. Most importantly, as a result of having gotten out of shape, your self-esteem is so low that your internal capacity to really honestly pursue this vision you know your heart wants is just out of reach. You've broken integrity for long and now your body is so full of shit that this goal feels impossible and although your heart wants it, it's so demoralizing because it feels like you're a newb mountaineer looking up and failing to climb Mt. Everest at 60 years old. That honestly feels like that with me with learning, life purpose, enlightenment to the degree I want to pursue it when it comes to my life circumstances, my cognitive condition with ADHD, and my self-esteem. Mainly the self-esteem and circumstances though. It's this inner frustration, apathy, and inner & outer resentment of like "I FUCKED UP MAN! NOW I HAVE TO CLEAN UP THIS WHOLE FUCKING THING I'M BARELY MENTALLY OF FIXING WHILE KEEPING IT TOGETHER MENTALLY AND EMOTIONALLY!" The reality of having to deal with life circumstances that I caused in one way or another, that it's my fault, and the fact that I now feel so fragile with a very weak ego structure that I feel hopeless and demoralized and I get stuck in victim mindset (and getting upset with myself that I am being a victim).

But didn’t you already shoot 2 massive long videos on What is God and all the questions that went with that?

You keep referencing The Bible on this thread which is about a man (who never historically existed) who was unconditionally loving... in yet you're being the very devil Jesus warns you by saying the above "There's nothing wrong with being hateful or angry". Stop assuming most people have their shit together. Since when are the herd of sleeping sheep the one's worth listening to? The common masses are the one's who nailed Christ to a damn cross. Which goes into the point where virtually no-one just loves everything... That's right. High quality conscious human beings who truly know God and have the capacity to see and understand the world as it is (which is pure Love absent of the delusion of evil) are rare. Hence why Christians and the evolution of Christianity (aside from the rare enlightened mystics) became the very thing Christ warned those NOT to turn into. Hence why all your years of Bible study have gotten you nowhere. Drop this.

@Mezanti 1000% agree.

Yes & yes Yeah and Jesus was nailed to a cross for saying he was God and told Truth to power. How did that enlightenment thing work out? Truth is threatening. It rubs people the wrong way. That said, that doesn’t mean you need to go blabbing all this to people. Don’t confuse that. Also, until you get in your experience that God is you, it will be a lie. You’re going to be breaking integrity because honesty is being telling and living the truth of what is your genuine experience and reporting that condition as accurately as you can. If you’re not aware, it doesn’t do you any good. It actually hurts you.

Feel free to update the booklist

There has got to be a siddhi where I can watch Actualized.org videos before they come out

@Leo Gura God wanted you to enjoy your trip

That didn’t make any coherent sense as far as I’m concerned but alright I’ll watch the video ?

@Serotoninluv @CreamCat your points on AI and UBI really struck me. I’m not up to date on AI progress and not am I informed at all on the developments, implications, and full details behind UBI. I will say, whenever I think about the future of AI I get the chills. Especially when you consider how we can so naively put ourselves in a position of being obselete really is crazy. Keeps me up at night sometimes. I don’t know, it does feel like spooky times. That probably because I haven’t fully tasted (much less integrated) the ultimate perfection of everything. But yeah.. it does feel spooky to me. Our world is becoming so interconnected so much faster than we as a species are developing or are prepared for. Which just raises the question... how? It’s like we have issues as a global society that includes all beings (all of the planet - I would say cosmos but let’s keep this within the ballpark) that demands 2nd Tier development and solutions in yet we’re still toddlers at Blue and Orange and it’s being mostly directed by Orange people (in terms of the development of those in power and also causing this issues). Personally I literally have this inner alarm sometimes where it’s like “can we take a fucking T.O. and get a fucking game plan already?” Of course... life doesn’t work that way. The Tier 1 people can’t really see the problems at the altitude required in order to really effectively solve them. Think about that... a universal basic income + AI that makes us not only obsolete but we become dependent on even more so than we are now... I mean. I already can’t stand my phone addiction lol. I don’t know, I feel like I’m just waiting for a hurricane that’s about to wreck a massive amount of havoc we’re (and as far as my far I’m more referring to myself) not prepared for.

Man... never thought about that in this light... What a massive insight

Just from what you see in your own area, despite the potential extreme end of the Blue rednecks there that are still riding Trump for his indulgence in racism and hate speech and what not, do you think (outside of what I just described) that a lot of them feel hurt or betrayed by him? I mean, obviously they’re hurt because of him. What I’m asking though is, do you feel or see that they recognize and admit that? Just curious what it’s like there since I live in San Francisco so it’s hard for me to really soak into the “true American Stage Blue” perspective other than just the erroneous and obvious example we see on the news and social media.

@RichardY you’re interpreting a metaphor literally. More so, you’re interpretting a metaphor from someone who lived thousands of years ago in a completely different context and stage of cognitive development as a culture literally. There is no evil. Morality is a human invention that became part of our development. With that said, that doesn’t imply that all because there is no evil we can’t construct social contracts to maintain a more “civilized” society.

I think this is probably the most horseshit thing I’ve ever read. *shits pants laughing*

@Leo Gura so you’re literally saying that the more genuine and truly fundamentally authentic an intention is when one “prays”, the more powerful it is? Making it more “powerful” is one’s genuine conscious understanding and connection with their own “Godhood”?

@Inliytened1 reference to life purpose course.

I’m definitely half in “End Phase” and “Limbo”

@Leo Gura that such a good description of what my LSD come down felt like. Though I imagine it’s more radically so with 5-MeOvand more drawn out. Coming down from a realization from God slowly felt like this drawn out torture as my Self came back in of just how much I taint and ruin my own bliss, truth, love, and General happiness. I think it was necessary for sure and good to see that but man is it painful. This was what really hit home on the importance of self-esteem and acceptance.

What's the comedown from 5-MeO-DMT like?

I saw this book yesterday at a bookstore here in San Francisco! Thanks for the review! Man, I'm so happy for you! This is so amazing! Great on you brother! Follow the path (at your own pace!) So glad to hear this massive progress. I can't wait to follow along with your journey! You got this man! There will be suffering in this path but you're taking this path consciously. I don't know you but I'm sure the hardest part has been conquered. Remind yourself there will be hiccups but man, sounds like you've conquered a fucking mountain to even get this part. You fucking got this man!

To really grasp the Absolute and to live knowing it deeply would demand you be in integrity with the Truth because you are it. As far as him doing a more “positive” impact by doing what he’s doing from the relative POV I highly disagree with. Who/how I was before I got truly into nonduality and I was listening to Sam Harris and also with certain family members of mine who are like Sam Harris and jP fanatics, I can promise you, he isn’t doing anyone any real favors doing what he’s known for doing.

Sam Harris really is a confusing character. I don’t listen to him anymore so I’m not really current as to what he’s up to these days as far as what he’s saying and so forth. If you read his book Waking Up, you’re clearly reading about him not only having nondual enlightenment experiences but also having studied sages and teachers like Ramana Maharahi, Papaji, etc. He’s “educated” on these people and on nonduality in yet.. still is holding these paradigms of how Consciousness is brain activity for example. I mean, he’s done thousands of hours of meditation and has utilized substances like LSD but still doesn’t and has done tons of mindfulness practice of the years but still denies subjectivity. Denying that 2nd and 3rd person perspective are still all held and grounded within 1st person subjective and to deny 1st person is deny what’s fundamentally running the show. It’s crazy how that’s happened. I don’t wanna go off too hard because he was my real gateway into this path. His 26 minute meditation with some self inquiry got me to realize I don’t know who and what I am. So there’s value there for the newb coming from Orange. I don’t think an Orange person can really stomach more “cleaner” forms of nonduality other than maybe through Leo’s older stuff. I think it just goes to show how deep enlightenment goes and how even no-self insights are nowhere near enough. Glimpses and even strong hits of emptiness isn’t enough to eradicate a very deeply permeated materialist and modern scientific paradigm. Also in the importance of open mindedness and of course epistemology. I think epistemology (along with of course metaphysics, but for the sake of this point...) really is the root issue in A LOT of the shenanigans we get into even in spiritual work. Its really a shame because he’s such a great speaker, very articulate, otherwise very intelligent guy, great marketer, etc. but between this and how he holds Atheism, demonization of religion, etc. really makes him a truly tainted teacher that leads many people astray. I hope he turns around but I doubt it.

More projections. More fantasies of thinking you know me lol. Best of luck devil. Best of luck lol. Youre head is so far up your own ass lol.

I know. I know. That’s all you seem to do in most of your posts and regurgitate more projections. Then when people like me or other mods and users on here whom don’t play coy and call you out for being dogmatic, closed-minded, and for having a shadow you don’t wanna look at and introspect into your annoying behavior, you turn the card around like a convenient devil would you say something a long the lines of “well what’s wrong with ___? Nothing. Only your ego says so. I’m only asking to show you what you might be missing.” Playing all the clever little mental gymnastics your mind plays. @Ponder lolol REAL