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I understand what youre saying but I can 100000% promise you that it’s a psychological issue that’s resulted in something psycho-somatic. Every time I take a Psychedelic or have an emptional release, this issue quite literally dissolves.

@Michael569 as in there’s so much tension. You know when you’re crying hard you have that tension to breathe in where your breath becomes almost like a stutter? If that makes any sense? Same thing when you jump into maybe cold water/shower maybe

The moment I read this, it finally clicked... I realized that real visionary leadership is leadership that inspires other people to think critically and more consciously. That’s what creates real collective change. Motivating individuals that empower them to take on greater concern than just their petty life... I think this just helped me clarify my life purpose.

@Sunny J Gupta Sadhguru's Upa Yoga doesn't address what I'm dealing with. Thank you though @Michael569 looked her up and my issues weren't addressed at all in her videos but thanks anyways. I'm really struggling because I have so much tension in my chest and I feel like I'm being squeezed in. My hips, glutes, etc. are more of a straightforward shoot as that tightness is from years of distance running. My chest though is becoming extremely problematic. If I try to stretch out my spine and breathe my entire breath is shaking and there's gaps. There's trauma there and just a lot of tension but I don't know what to do at all. I have no idea what to research. If there's anybody else that can help me I'd appreciate it. Not looking for quick fixes.

Boh!

Pantoll on Mt. Tamalpais in Marin County in the San Francisco Bay Area Where Alan Watts, Terrence McKenna, Jack Kornfield, Peter Ralston, etc. (and I) live(d). Used to always sit there for sunrises and sunsets and really feel the silence and stare out.

Junglist nation! ?? Hit that amen break!

Scratch my last above comment. I think I might’ve gotten a possibility Leo might be trying to communicate I’ve been missing. Back to not-knowing Projection

Relative

+1-Fuckin-00000000 so on the money and I love the point you made about Ralston too. Concentration + quiet mind (as a result of emotional purification) + open mind I think are probably the 3 bedrock skills and capacities we need to have in spirituality and really personal development. If you want to meditate on chakras, go into DEEP Samadhi, succeed at the highest levels in yoga, take contemplation through the roof you HAVE TO attain, as @ardacigin is putting it, stable attention. Om Swami even says the same thing. It is the most arduous and painful part of meditation but it is the foundation. Its also the most rewarding. I VERY much agree what ardacigin is saying about Ralston too. You have to understand, Ralston was one of the best martial artists in the world. You have to be HYPER aware of every single thing and be totally zoned in in martial arts. That guy has incredible focus.

Reason doesn’t exist. There is no reason and no one that knows good. There’s no separate one that knows God.

@bejapuskas there is no mind there is no boundary there are no humans existence doesn’t exist if we’re talking about Absolute

Of course. Truth robs you. A person who tells you or me that what we thought was so real and true that we love to cling to is always perceived as a threat and thus ignored. Yoga is an invention. Meditation is an invention. Mantras are inventions. Language is an invention. So on and so on. They do not exist. They are not special. They were created to serve a function. There is nothing more special about the Sanskrit language than English or Spanish or Chinese or some African clock dialect. You can meditate on a mantra “Love” the same way you on the mantra “Om” and get the same results if you truly know what the fundamental process is. But of course, Indians tend to want to have special turf over spirituality. The Adi Yogi at the end of the day is merely a mental construction. An idea you or I fabricate. A story we make up.

Belief in God is delusion. Belief in God is not knowing God. It’s a fantasy. It’s ignorance of God.

@Kushu2000 opinions I have on points I agree with: states of consciousness are relative The truth is NOT a state. The truth, God, you, etc. is true right now and can be realized as that independent of what state you’re in All states and experience are nonetheless still relative Having cosmic experiences, however grand they are, they are still nonetheles limited because they are NOT “mundane” or “unconscious” Those are all points toward a bigger point which I’m sure you can see. Quick Side Note: These are still nonetheless OPINIONS I have. Maybe a 5-MeO-DMT or several ones, which I’m working on aquiring, will convince me otherwise. I have no dedication to these points and am open to being flat out wrong. Where you’re flat out wrong: Speaking from the relative in the assumption that you are in fact another person, everything you perceive is an invention. Or as Leo puts it, is imaginary. All of these are synonmous There are no other people which is the fundamental problem with your example of testing people on imagination. You’re assuming there are other people If we’re going to talk about God or whatever we wanna call it (Being, The Self, The Truth, etc) we’re talking about Absolute Truth and “in” Absolute Truth there are no people, no mind, no world, no other, no things, etc. All of those can only seem to exist. They are illusions. Illusion literally means something thats Being yet appears to be otherwise. So in your text of looking at Leo or whatever, if you don’t have a direct experience of @Leo Gura in front of you, all Leo is is just a concept and fabrication. When you conjure up an idea of Leo, you fabricate, imagine, invent, and create a whole slew of stories and perceptions about this so called person. Not only that, even if you saw Leo, that perception would still apply. All of that is still a fabrication of your mind in order to handle this so called reality in order to survive and persist however, that doesn’t make true.’ What you call as the world at the end of the day is the mind. Siddhis or spiritual powers like levitation don’t necessarily require enlightenment as those are all still relative experience. Do enough real dedicated yoga and you’d be surprised at what you can do.

The main thing I appreciate about this video to me is it shows how much he values integrity with the truth in how he teaches people and not budging to indulge fantasy and any other nonsense that isn’t about the truth. I also can’t tell you how hard I laughed at some of his jokes in this video ???

Yeah and I think it takes real emotional and psychological work and understanding to really get to that point. This is why I appreciate @winterknight being honest on that matter with approaches like psychoanalysis because that kind of emotional maturity just simply isn’t the case for most people. For me I have a lot of deep psychological attachments from deep trauma in my life and from my family life, vows I made, my entire person I created, etc. MEDITATION & SPIRITUAL WORK DOES NOT DEAL WITH THAT. Much less as effectively as some route through psychological and emotional work. Personally I’m very skeptical towards clinical psychologists and what not as I had years wasted through ineffective therapy and put on so many drugs that I myself had to get off. Nonetheless, THE MOMENT I have a quiet mind is the moment after I let out all my emotional baggage in my mind, my body, etc. and then I have almost immediate tastes and glimpses into the truth because at the moment there is no psychological obstructions in the way. Happens EVERY time. So to have the emotional and psychological contentedness to genuinely take on a self honest investigation into what’s really true takes purification (or whatever we want to call it). What if what pursuing truth meant you have no siddhis, the eradication of life purpose, the contentedness of doing nothing special with your life, and you even ended continue working in a job you tend to not even be passionate about... at all? Ramana was a perfect example of this before he left the temples. He had his enlightenment and just sat in a temple totally free and had no concern with whether he lived or died. Now normally we tend to attach a sort of heroic perspective like ‘he was so brave he didn’t live or die’ but in truth he didn’t care. Which is to say no ‘caring’ nor ‘not caring’ ever arised.

Near the end Ralston finishes up laughing saying after he got What existence is and an other and so on he goes “it was like ‘bingo. Duh” and then continues laughing explaining how it’s funny because over time we start to realize everything is the same.

I’ll speak as far as my experience goes on this: I 100% agree. I think @winterknight put it well with trying to have the duality and nonduality. But of course, in truth, and for me, still in theory, thats false. For me it’s been a big thing that’s going to take more emotional work to really unglue myself from those needs and desires. Even if you’re doing spiritual work, it’s the ideas of wanting to be some superhuman god-like person that has siddhis, a powerful life purpose, emotional mastery, interpersonal mastery, and enlightenment and what it really is is treating this endeavor as a commodity or a deeper unconscious desire for wanting to be special, or both. I do think going beyond the human brings up natural concerns. Like what about my life purpose? What about what impact I want to have? Will enlightenment devalue and undercut a helpful service I have on a world that still doesn’t exist? Do I work in the world a lot first and then get enlightened so I have something to offer after my enlightenment? For me these are valid concerns and questions that I think we’re just not honest with ourselves and others who are into this stuff. Also of course we’re afraid of the possible Truth to those questions.

I think this video (I know I keep bringing up this same interview series) sums up @winterknight‘s response well (particularly the end): I think @Preetom put it well actually. It takes usually takes more enlightenment experiences (more glimpses) before it really starts to penetrate that all that is, is enlightenment. More glimpses into what self/ego is, what emotions are, what pain is, what mind is, only to become more and more free and conscious of how there’s nothing but The Self or Truth or God or whatever you wanna call it.

As an additional tip on top of @Leo GuraI honestly would say try to become conscious of what fear is directly outside of Psychedelic too. I’m really starting to learn this slowly but surely through body awareness by constantly feeling my body and relaxing it and also realize how much I’m literally “holding on”. Eventually you’ll get to the point where you’re more mindful and present with how much you DO emotions as a compulsive unconscious reaction. You eventually start to grasp that fear and all these other emotions are just unnecessary reactions that you can learn to stop compulsively doing that just gets in the way. I do think psychedelics are helpful though. They teach you to loosen your grip for sure.

@Bryanbrax if this is REALLY how you view the entire domain of athletics than that’s really sad. This video is so mayopic. You can point to ANY domain in human culture and point out the limitation, the chimpery, etc. This isn’t exclusive to sports. Spiritual people, philosophically minded people, etc. are not immune to this. Yes sports can very tribal. So is pretty much any culture. As is the entire human condition. I can show you HIGHLY evolved athletes and sport cultures. Professional ones at that. Youre pointing at the stage of development of modern mainstream athletics. Being an athlete can be tool to inspire yourself and others. It can be one of, if not the highest tool for personal growth and understanding for some. It can be the highest form of self expression for some people. It can be a domain of true genius creativity. It’s a domain where you learn some of the greatest lessons about life. It’s a domain that can teach you great work ethic and build character and self confidence and self esteem. You can build great communities through them. You can connect with the world, and the natural world at that. You can see the grace that comes with being a human being. I’m very critical of how deluded the mainstream sports culture is. So don’t misunderstand me here. However, to say sports is some entire low consciousness thing is just bullshit at the end of the day.

@Charlotte if we talk about thing from the Absolute mind doesn’t exist people don’t exist perspectives don’t exist experience doesnt exist world doesn’t exist “I” doesn’t exist objects don’t exist space doesn’t exist thoughts don’t exist From the relative or dualistic world, the world itself and everything you perceive is mind. Reality is a giant mind from the relative. Absolutely though, none of that actually exists. Existence is illusion. Illusuon is existence. The Absolute nature of existence/illusion is nothing.

How is this related at all to Life Purpose and this forum? There are other forums for these matters.