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This is the point that I tend to bring up but in the end I get the same response which is that state is irrelevant as shown to them by the work they’ve done facilitating others. I tend to rebuttal by saying something among the lines of “yeah, the Truth is the Truth independent of the state I’m in but surely it helps to be able to get into a highly concentrated state in order to contemplate.” And I get the same response back “sure. It can help so long as you actually get enlightened. It’s not at all necessary though.” Where the line has drawn for me is when I notice for example in my enlightenment experiences I notice how irrelevant my state is or was because the Truth just is. Plus when I look at most people who trip or even get into “deep states” independent of substances, i notice just how much they invent a whole story around the experience itself. Not that this is any fault on your end but when I see people on here who get into some little state or have a “cosmic God” experience, I see just how much their inventing a narrative around it using your language (again that’s not any fault on you but I’m pointing out a pattern). Although I can understand and empathize how much the mind wants to invent stories and dramas around psychic, siddhi, or grand cosmic onesness experiences, I still must be honest at least with myself that it’s just mere entertainment. It’s not freedom and it isn’t the truth, no matter how much I may want to make myself feel special or narratives about how I think I know how it all works now. However, I can see where you’re coming from and I still intend to test it. I’m not saying I’m closed to psychedelics now. I’m currently in the process of buying 5-MeO for this reason. You make a fair point on the breakthrough and that if people are going to make a firm ciritique on it as far as the domain of enlightenment goes, at least get a full breakthrough.

I’m asking this genuinely - I’ve met several enlightened people and some of whom are facilitators as teachers or in workshop setting and I’ve asked them on this matter as I know this isn’t the first time you’ve said this. I’ve gotten the same response based on the people they’ve facilitated (not that enlightenment is the result of their facilitation): “you can be totally pissed off and/or lost in thoughts. None of that matters. I’ve seen people be totally depressed and then have their enlightenment experience. I’ve seen people lost in their minds and it still happens.” Again, I’m asking genuinely trying to get your point of view as clear as possible.

Psychedelics is just more states and just more experiences. Ralston has a lot of history with psychedelics. Enlightenment is not experience. It is not a state.

You underestimate how manipulative megalomania narcissists can be. It’s not that people are just so stupid they blindly fall into it. They fall into it because cults play off of human needs, desires, and base level human psychology. They use techniques that work in such a way that people get bought into. There’s a reason cults happen so much in spiritual circles. What is that reason? Everyone wants to stop suffering! Become a god! Save the world! Develop superhuman powers! You know how inviting that is to people whom are suffering and lack a sense of direction? Then you throw in a really charismatic guy who knows very well how to appeal to you, seem 100% genuine, empathize with you, talk about bliss, unconditional love, etc. Right there you’d be caught by the short and curlies. Everybody wants those things!

Show some empathy and compassion dude.

Well done by Science & Nonduality An amazing sage who lived a very simple life in a small little house/apartment in a city in India that touched the lives of many.

Yes & Kelly was my neighbor who was also my little brother's swim team's strength coach since his daughter was on the team. Been into his gym in the Presidio in SF and his other guy Nate Helming whose YouTube channel "The Run Experience" (highly recommend) is a buddy of mine back in the Bay. I find Kelly, based on my extensive experience applying and learning his stuff down to the very guts of it, to not be holistic enough and really just aggressive in how he does mobility. I find Nate, whose one of Kelly's top coaches at his gym but now has his own gig going, applies a better balance towards mobility work that isn't as aggressive as Kelly. I found I moved way too fast in terms of forcing deep stretches and releasing stuck sliding tissues to such a degree where it actually caused more problems. However, I've learned a lot from him. The man knows his shit better than 99.999999% of strength coaches out there. At this point, if I meet strength training guys or coaches whom aren't familiar with guys like Kelly or Vern Gambetta (absolute GENIUS), I tend to be able to predict where the limitations are in their strength training and what they're missing and can see it in the way they move. Kelly is a "mainstream" example of a Yellow strength/mobility coach.

@Soulbass good shit man. Yeah, strength, mobility, and mechanics/form is the foundation. Don’t overthink all this ancillary stuff. Tbh its a distraction but glad you’re running again. Dont make this more complicated than it has to be. a hard workout once or twice a week. Touch all the bases: lactate threshold (tempo rubs, cruise intervals, etc.), neuromuscular/cns sprint work with plenty of recovery between reps (5 reps of 8-10 second Hill sprints w/4 min standing rest), high end vo2max workouts (10x400m @ mile effort w/90 sec rest) A long run every week Strength 3 times per week focusing on the posterior chain, stability and foundational strength mobility work before and after runs Easy runs 80% of your runs are done easy. Make your easy days EASY and your hard days hard but doable. Keep it up.

Take your damn medicine, stay in bilateral symmetry, be honest with yoursel, don’t indulge the desire to create fantasies, surrender.

@mandyjw I suggest you take honest ownership for your projections and stop creating cosmologies and fantasies to explain away your own projections.

Real ADHD is a bitch. Living in a western society and going through the scholastic system with ADHD, regardless of whether or not you’re on medication, is a bitch. Spiritual work, and specifically meditation, with ADHD can seem like the most impossible task, considering that the majority of what spiritual practice is is cultivating the discpline and art of paying attention. What could be more of a nightmare for someone with ADHD then to sit down, shut, don’t move, and pay attention even when what you’re focusing on has no interest to you for long periods of time? I was on ADHD medication from the age of 6 till 22 until I went cold turkey (DON’T DO THAT!) and never went back on. Since that time I’ve struggled with energy problems, had to cut out certain foods once I got off because for one reason or another they just would train wreck my nervous system (it would feel like pouring water onto a circuit board), and had even less capacity to tolerate spiritual practices. Though there was an adjustment over time, I had to find for myself ways through experimentation ways of being to sit down and meditate and train my mind. I tried nootropics for a bit but, for those that have been on medication for a LONG time (I’d say beyond 10 years), you know how easy and quickly the body adapts to such short cuts. I was tired of using pills and shortcuts that didn’t work long term. Then I started experimenting with feeling my body, Reichian therapy, the release of energetic blockages where I hold a lot of my psychosomatic trauma and all of a sudden I would find myself in states of deep samadhi with little to no effort. How? A mind/body holding in emotions/tension/energy is a mind that can’t stop thinking. Release that and the mind will quiet. For those who feel great quietness of mind after a cathartic emotional release from a lot of crying or therapy session know what I’m talking about. Somewhat recently I video chatted with one of the highest Zen masters in the West (I’d argue the world), Doshin Roshi. As Ken Wilber puts it “Doshin is one of the most accomplished spiritual teachers on the planet.” Though I’m now part of Doshins Integral Zen sangha here in Boulder/Denver, I had the opportunity to video chat with him before I moved here back in early August. I explained my struggles with my practice because of my ADHD and he cut me off and said “I have ADHD and OCD. Don’t mean nothing,” followed by a hearty laugh. Left speechless, I took him up on that and that maybe I was just making excuses for not just continuing to find what it is I’m doing wrong in my practice. Boy was he right. Now I want to give credit where credit is due to @ardacigin where he talked a lot about Culadasas approach to teaching meditation and Arda gave an outline of the progression of practice along with a very detailed explanation of the how it is this works, why it works, and why this outline is important. I bought the Mind Illumibated on Kindle and by the time I finished reading what Culadasa calls the first stage of practice and immediately tried it out, within 5 minutes I FINALLY could hold access concentration. Totally blown away I kept doing it and was able to sustain it longer and longer and longer. This is being done by someone that dropped out of college because he couldn’t pay attention (and more stuff). So, what exactly did I do? Do NOT make the intent to hold your focus. Yes you read that right. That is NOT the goal. The goal is simply to remember whenever your mind wanders off and gently bring it back every time. If your mind is going so crazy you can bring it back, remain in the same posture but just take some time to regather, then resume when ready. Why do you not just go for yoking your attention? Because if you’re still struggling to maintain focus, you can’t force because the very “act” of forcing is a thought itself. Concentration develops on its own. DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THIS. I am blown away at how this is working. So in conclusion, if you have ADHD, I don’t think you necessarily need to go about the route of paying for excessive nootropics or neurofeedback. I no longer subscribe to ADHD being a reason you can’t progress without special something that necessarily costs thousands of dollars to fix. Da Vinci was enlightened and realized the nature of Nothingness and he had terrible ADHD. There are Zen masters of the highest order who have it. I think it takes a matter of working with emotions, your nervous system, and the right practice. I recommend you read The Mind Illuminated. Look into traditional Hatha yoga practices before you get steeped into Kriya. Look into releasing energetic/emotional/neuromuscular tension built up. And most importantly, I suggest you take responsibility and start. If you want Truth, you want to go as far as you can with this path? Stop talking shit about how much you want it. DO IT. Figure it out. Stop theorizing. Stop neurotically analyzing. Spend the majority of your time practicing and contemplating. You don’t even necessarily need high concentration to realize who and what you are. Find what works for you. Nothing that is effective is done because you follow a certain system. Systems are bullshit and a waste of time if they don’t work for you. Find what works for you or create what works for you. If you need to meditate in intervals, meditate in intervals. If you need to give verbal reminders to yourself and break your outer silence while you meditate to console yourself, provide determination and discpline, or just regather yourself, give yourself verbal reminders. If you don’t know what to do, talk to enlightened masters. They are available. You even know of them. Do you email Ralston? Do you email or get in contact with guys like Martin Ball? Do you message other yogis and other such people? From the fantasy I see on here regarding what you think enlightened people are like, the answer I would give would be no and that’s just insane. These people are available to help you. They even WANT to help you and give you their perspective. They will help dispel fantasies and just downright bullshit. They will give you tips and even provide encouragement and hook you up with connections. You need to be responsible for your own awakening because no one else is going get you to awaken but you. No guru is going to do it. You and only you can. Who else could do it? Done.

Do you miss having hair?

That has everything to do with you. That has nothing to do with him. Lol “I consciously hate him”. You are such a prime example of spiritual narcissism. You enjoy fantasies dude. I’d bet lottery money that if we put you to a test to see how free of fear, pain, suffering, etc. you’d crack. You’re a parrot. You parrot stuff on the Internet pretending you know people with the way you lecture people. As though you know a damn thing. You ain’t free. You ain’t awake. If you are still bound by suffering, you ain’t free. You parrot Leo because it’s convenient. If you really were as awake as you like to talk you’d be doing something other than projecting on a forum and would actually be doing something in the world. You enjoy fantasies. Which is to say, you enjoy lying. Ralston is an enlightened master whether you like it or not. A person whose truly free is not bound to a “spiritual” agenda and have to fit your fantasy of what an enlightened master should be. Grow up dude. Youre projections on this forum are honestly getting nauseating. You lack empathy. You lack humility. You lack compassion. You lack real truth. You lack self reflection.

That’s true whether you’re “powerful” or “weak”.

If there’s one word I found most Russians don’t seem to know, it’s this... “moderation” lol

Dude. You need a life outside this forum.

@Matt8800 you mentioned at one point I believe how one time you were energizing an object and how it started moving and/or vibrating. Do you think that if someone was in that room with you they would’ve noticed that too?

God Nothingness Godhead Brahman Emptiness Void Source Silence Bliss Love Goodness Dao Zeus Einsof Yahweh Al-lah Infinity Consciousness Truth Shiva Awareness Nobody No-Self True Self The Universe Absolute Nothing Buddha-Mind Buddha-Nature Teotel 5-MeO-DMT True enlightened masters they are

Yes Dropping fear in matters that are more continuous rather than instantaneous. For example: the fear of just taking a psychedelic can be solved by simply recognizing that as an activity, let it go by being conscious of what is occurring rather than relating to what’s to come based on my thoughts of the future, and then take it vs. dealing with fear while already in a trip and you’re so wrapped and governed by that fear and that trip is already going and it’s something that’s going to keep persisting. I guess it’s a matter of how does one deal with fear while already doing something rather than just the simple fear of doing something. Dealing with fear regarding making big life changes. How do I heal fear that is manifesting psychosomatically for good? I do Reichian Therapy on myself and even psychedelics and am always able to surrender and bring up what needs to be brought up but the fear still doesn’t go away after the trip or after the session as I still come down. Im able to be free in that moment but it never goes away still. I just seem to be doing more consistent work on matters that never go away.

Can Occult practices be used to help with emotional development and purification (of even psychosomatic traumas)? If so, what “branch” of the occult would be utilized towards such an end? What branch of occult would be best for purification? For example, purification of the subtle/psychic/astral body, energetic, samskaras and vasanas, etc. Regarding Law of Attraction, I don’t understand why occultists seem to be fond of beliefs and emotions. I mean on the one hand, I get it. On the other hand, all emotions tend to have layers to them. So if I superficially set a certain intention or even create a certain though form or something to reach a certain end, that thing I want could still be based off of something really driven by fear. And also all beliefs are fear based to provide a false sense of certainty in a very uncertain reality. I notice this with my own emotions where if I feel inside deep shame, that tends to have a double side to it that ties very deeply to a strong anger or rage that has been repressed but also vice versa. Law of Attraction seems to be about setting a strong, clear, single minded intent to some intended outcome but in practice we find that there almost is no such thing among indivual minds. Can you help reconcile this?

As someone whose had consistent involuntsry astral projections, I used to think it was cool (first subtle reaction: “holy shit this is actually happening!”) but after the next couple times I started to find that, as far as I’m concerned personally for me, has little to no value. I don’t see astral projections or any other major psychic experience I’ve had to be really fulfilling or really something that changes anything, much less quality of life. I remember when I had another really deep astral projections that was VERY clear, I came back (pardon the limits of language) and I just felt an arising reaction that said “it’s just more experience”. Personally for me I see why yogis tend to downplay siddhis and paranormal as distractions as that’s what it felt like to me personally. That’s just me though. Maybe there’s something about astral travel that can be done to enhance growth, healing, and help the pursuit of truth and liberation that I’m not aware of.

There are plenty of enlightened, some very deeply so, professionals in the world. I’ve met plenty of them. I hung out with one whose a friend of mine who studied under Ralston personally for 8 years 2 days ago. It’s just turns out that they don’t really care to talk about it (which I personally find very refreshing).