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@Gili Trawangan Definitely a lot of suffering in my past as well, especially being a loner in school I hated lunch-break. I had a couple friends but I never hung out with them for some reason. So I always found ways to stall time so that we could get back to class. But still, aside from that, life was great. And definitely a lot more balanced for me as well. I guess it makes a huge difference when you slow down and back up a bit from the fast-paced fun and social lifestyle. I've been through many phases of getting out of my comfort zone to meet people. I always thought I had social anxiety, so that's how I got into self-help so I can try to undo it. I've been through many phases of meeting and approaching strangers on the streets for 1-2 years, working in highly-social environments, going to social events, and no I wouldn't really say that I want that anymore. These days I feel that I'm faking it when I'm social. But I still think that I had a lot of fun when I had some of those social experiences.

My bad, I had a feeling you would've responded about that. I was just trying to make a helpful suggestion. Yeah that's what the journey is all about. There's a lot that needs understanding here. Make as many notes as you want, and deliberately study and actually practice what he's teaching. It won't all come easy, the one who puts in the work will get the benefits.

@Dylan Page Similar to a mind. He's just comparing the universe to a human mind, because the human mind is so complex, and so complicated to understand. Same with life and everything around us. Everything is so complex and so complicated for us to understand. And the universe is like a mind because all the human mind does is create it's own reality. And the human mind has the ability to dream, and to create its own dreams. So he says the Universe is just a bigger version of a human mind! It's just one giant mind dreaming everything up. From your car, to your house, to the billions of people on earth, to the mountains, all the water, all the planets, all the stars, all the galaxies and so on. It's all just one dream. God created it. I'm having difficulty answering this 2nd paragraph here but there's a difference between truth and the absolute truth. He mentions that he believes in no "absolute truth." Experience is all we have so go experience it for yourself. If you can experience it then that's enough to validate that it "works", or "he's right" however you want to put it. BUT, that doesn't mean that the experience is the one and only "absolute truth", that everything else is wrong. But maybe its more of a part of the bigger whole. He's pretty accessible on these forums. You can create a thread asking him some questions or message him. I'm sure he'll respond. or D.) These topics are too advanced for you and it would be a good idea to start from the beginning. You don't just jump all the way to Grade 7 math all of a sudden when you haven't even done Grade 1 math yet. Grade 7 won't make any sense.

@Dylan Page Start from the very beginning if you need to. He has mentioned that nothing he says is the absolute truth. But what he talks about can be experienced for yourself. So its all about taking what he says, and experiencing it for yourself so you can validate it from your own direct experience. It's not just a speculation. He talks about them because he shows that he's done a ton of research on these topics, and most importantly he goes and experiences it for himself. He mentions, the universe is "like a mind." Meaning that he's comparing the universe to a human mind, which dreams everything up.

@Dylan Page Honesty I tried to simplify it as much as I could. Have you watched the video yet? In the title of the Youtube video it says that its an "Advanced, Life-Changing Explanation." So if this isn't making sense right now then you might want to watch Leo's previous videos first if you haven't already. It's sort of like watching ahead of a TV-Series. If you skip to season 8 when you haven't watched season 1 yet then the whole entire story won't make any sense.

@capriciousduck This should be posted in the "Self-Actualization" part of the forums. I'm not exactly sure what your question is here but I think there's a misunderstanding of what he was talking about in the video? From what I know, Leo means that we as God, created the human version of ourselves. We're the ones who put us here on earth. And what he means by not remembering it, is that as a human, we don't remember that our true identity is God. And no I don't remember him saying anything about our lives being pre-destined. God doesn't know itself, so it created us humans to be able to fully understand and experience itself. Humans are here for God to experience itself at an even deeper level. Everything new that is learned, everything new that is created, every new baby that is created, are all new experiences for God. So since everything new that is created, is a new experience for God, our lives aren't pre-destined because God hasn't experienced it yet. So it wants to experience your life, and my life, and the tree's life, and the cat's life, and the dog's life, and so on.

@Truth Addict Yeah and what I'm saying is that maybe we need to be more mindful of how we present our criticisms towards others. Nobody likes people who are critical in an arrogant way. They will most likely be open to their criticisms if they weren't so arrogant. Not saying that a lot of people here tend to be arrogant, but I do see it a few times.

@Truth Addict This is just an assumption of mine, but I feel that one of my recent threads about having a "Corrective Attitude" has something to do with this thread. Yes or no? If yes, I wasn't being defensive in that post. I was pointing out a trap that I fall into often, where I would correct people in a specific way. Specifically in a way where I would be harshly critical and blunt towards others to try and "change" them. And I was looking for answers, "Does it actually help others?" Is it actually effective or not? Also, I posted it to shed some light on how we should present our criticisms. Because it definitely makes a difference whether we criticize others in a blunt and asshole type of way, and a more gentle and caring way.

I live with them, I have an older brother and sister. I haven't had a real conversation with my sister in 1-2 years, and brother in 7 years. This is mainly about my brother. We never hated each other back in the day, we always played video games together and all that but these days that never happens. For some reason when I was probably Grade 9 or 10 in High school, I decided to stop answering him and started to ignore him. I don't know why, my ego probably got in the way of things, and I probably started to think he was weird. Nowadays, I really miss the old times. I've been re-watching some of the old movies we would watch, and playing old video games we would play. I tried to talk to them during the Christmas season, but it was quite difficult. Sometimes I always think to myself if it would be a good idea to start talking to them again or not. I have goals, and they tend to fall into a lot of distractions on their free time and I often think that would rub off on me. This year I haven't been to any of our family dinners, I always just stayed home. Because every time I'm there, its just an awkward silence. My brother and sister have a good relationship with each other, and they probably talk a lot when I'm not there. I always imagine how it would go if I ever talked to my brother again. What if he started questioning why I never talked to him, etc. And I also imagine if I would ever regret it 10, 20 years down the line when we move on with our lives.

This is definitely a trap that I fall into quite a bit, and I’ve noticed it in others on these forums. Is this a neurotic trap that we fall into or does it actually help others? What I mean by this is the tendency to nit-pick at other people’s behaviors and try to correct them. For example, “This is how you’re closed-minded, because you said this, you did that and this.” “That behavior is exactly why you are unhappy in life.” “This behavior shows that you have a personality disorder.” “You’re unhealthy because you keep eating this.” From my opinion it seems a little condescending and it doesn’t really help if the other person isn’t open to it. I definitely would say that it possibly does help when the person is actually looking for help. Especially in a coaching situation, as a personal trainer for example, the trainer corrects the client’s form in the gym, in that case it would help. But when it comes to going about your day and someone criticizes the heck out of your behavior and what you say, does that really help? Is this an issue that we should be letting go of? If so, how?

@Shiva INTP. I’ve read that they tend to be quite blunt.

@Shiva True. For me personally I tend to be quite blunt so people probably take offense to my criticisms. I try not to be so blunt, but I think it has something to do with my myers-briggs personality type. @ajasatya I swear you weren't a mod before? Congrats! @ThermalTide Yeah I've definitely worked at places with good management, and bad management. You can clearly see the differences. The company I've worked for with good management skills was ranked the Top 50 best managed companies in Canada, and they seemed to be laid-back, they trust their employees to do the job well, and they don't micro-mange all the time. Bad management is just the complete opposite of what I said. Although I mean the corrective attitude could help though, depending on how you take that approach.

@Joseph Maynor So what is your point in telling me that? Yes I can see it, and I even admit that I fall into this trap quite a bit. Did you also notice that I have a question mark in my display picture? I'm asking a question and looking for an answer, not criticizing a behavior for no reason. If anything, I feel that you're using this corrective behavior towards me right now with that post. Although, you somewhat did answer my question near the end of the paragraph.

@Joseph Maynor I didn’t say he was wrong and I didn’t say I was right. He’s asking a question, and I’m giving my opinion. An opinion from someone who was a Christian/Catholic my whole life, towards another believer of Jesus.

If that’s what you believe then so be it. Anyone here who tries to convince you that you’re wrong is just wasting their time and energy. I used to be a Catholic, I went to church every Sunday morning, and I even got several religious tattoos on my arm when I was 18. But I got to a point where I grew out of it and figured it was all just a belief. It’s no different from finding out that Santa isn’t real. Maybe that’s what they’re trying to teach children with the whole Santa thing. That as soon as you grow as a human, you figure out that the whole thing was a lie. But again, talking about this is pointless. You need to actually grow conscious of it in order to understand. You won’t understand by people on the forums telling you their perspective. You need to actually do the work.

@Beeman Personally I don’t understand it myself, but it makes sense to me in theory. You won’t be able to understand it until you become conscious of it. Trying to theorize and talk about it is almost pointless. It’s like trying to talk a toddler into becoming rich and successful. You can talk all day about the theory of success to the toddler, but will that make the toddler rich all of a sudden just by talking about it? Of course not.

@lostmedstudent If you haven't seen this episode already. One of my favorites by Leo. And if you've already seen it, watch it again, and again. And actually take action on what he's talking about in this video.

@Shaun You work for Amazon, how about looking into Amazon FBA? You can invest your savings into a product and sell on Amazon.

Long story short, I was ungrateful and got myself fired from a toxic but decent paying 9-5 job. When I was working this job, I was disciplined enough to sleep early, wake up early, and had some good habits in place. Now that I'm currently unemployed, I don't know what to do with my time anymore. Having the job actually pushed me to work towards things that would get me out of the job. I always valued my time and worked on my side hustles over the weekends, plus I consistently meditated for 40+ mins a day on sat & sun. Now everything fell off and I'm here playing video games, watching movies and half-assing my meditations. I guess I might have to go back to a job in order to get that discipline back in place.. As an INTP I just dislike working for other people, and with other people. I just want to do my own thing. It's just so counter-intuitive, you would think that its a great idea to free up your time to work on your business or life purpose, but once you have that free time you end up not working on it as much. Advice?

INTP, quite accurate. Sometimes I struggle trying to figure out whether or not my behaviors are tendencies of a Spiral Stage Yellow person or Myers Briggs INTP? Some of the characteristics that describe the two are quite similar.

@Mezanti I was actually thinking of something similar to this topic this morning. In the perspective of people in stage orange, that kind of spiritual talk might seem a bit toxic to their belief system. Especially when the orange person wants to fulfill their financial needs, and you have all these "spiritual" people saying "money doesn't make you happy" "money doesn't buy happiness!" and then they go on to brag about how happy they are. Who the hell brags about their happiness and how developed they are? Most likely the unhappy people. And I'm going to be honest here, sometimes it bothers me how many teenagers are on these forums acting like they know everything. There aren't a lot but there are a few. Maybe its just me who is bothered by it and I'm sorry that I'm bothered by it and bringing it up, but I just wanted to point it out.

#2 should be multiple-choice

While I don’t like to talk about where I stand on the spiral, this issue seems like it has a bit of an impact on my life. And by “unhealthy manifestations”, that is a term they use on the website http://spiraldynamicsintegral.nl/en/yellow/ I truly believe I have a good amount of Yellow in me, but I think I lean more towards the unhealthy side of Yellow. I uploaded a photo below of the description of Yellow’s unhealthy manifestations, and reading that it describes me so well. I tend to be very cold and distant at times in public and at my previous workplaces, and people take that personally. They think I hate everyone. And I also tend to be very critical of certain things or people and their level of development. Plus I dropped all of the previous friends that I had so I can live with no social obligations. All of which are not really healthy for me, and it isn’t easy to control. This behavior has affected me for a while, and personally I think I lost my recent job because of this. Recently I complained about my supervisor to the owner of the company I was working for. My supervisor was a bossy narcissist and I harshly criticized her in front of the owner. I told the owner she did this and that and her behavior is like this, etc. And that completely backfired, and then I was fired a week later. And while the owner was firing me he also mentioned I was very cold and I never talk to anyone at work. How do I “cure” this behavior?

@d0ornokey Yeah I was just making an estimate of how much he makes from his life purpose course, I didn't even include his income from Youtube.

@now is forever Then what's a better model to explain it? Personally I think its quite valid.