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@Nahm No, but that's what it's taught and sold as.

@Nahm absolute truth @zazed it's not a cup it's a picnic basket.

In the same way I resolve the paradox that we are made of stuff that comes from stars and look at them at the same time....... I smile and enjoy the 'view'.

Oh you finally noticed that abstract ideal they teach people to chase like a carrot on a stick to keep the seekers on the hamster wheel paying for the teaching to believe something that they don't really have either. Congratulations you are really awake now so find fulfillment, enjoyment and peace fron life in just being present in it.

@DocHoliday On second though it did help me.... I used up a couple of those illusory minutes that don't exist, I didn't really need help in using them but it did anyway and now I used a couple more. Though, I will use a few making breakfast now, future me is alot more hungrier than present me is if I don't eat and will be pissed at past me if present me doesn't get it done, gah, present me has to do everything! Yes, very weird movies.

It didn't help me at all.... nope not one bit. I asked myself was that me reading your post? I immediately wished it wasn't me.... yea, I have weird movies.

We are constantly changing, yes, but there is no dying without first living so we can appreciate life and it's changes until the change of death actually comes to pass.

I appreciate your reply, you perfectly illustrate and prove my point by saying 'that's incorrect' expressing it from a binary view, right and wrong. Criticism is expressing disapproval because of perceived flaws, not necessarily actual flaws, but perceived and this is exactly what you did in the very way I suggested happens, from a dualism mindset. The expressing of disapproval is rooted in the right/wrong, good/bad dichotomy, is difficult to break that perspective but it's possible. Critical thinking is an analyzing which isn't limited to a binary view, it encompasses examining in a range of ways to gain a better understanding. It is the genuine expression of 'challenging ideas' and is not synonymous with criticism, it appears you don't know the difference between them. I think you are also confusing me with someone else because most of your post doesn't address any of the two points I made, um...."indefensible"?

Criticism it's just an expression of the duality mindset, it is merely the extension of the right and wrong dichotomy. If one seeks to transcend that duality mindset figuring out how to shape one's life without this judgment is crucial to succeed.

Life is addicting.... so does that make death merely a rehab?

This little phrase jumps out at me because it implies something in light of everything else you said. Yes I want to be caring... I am care full, I do care, though I don't get the impression this is the sentiment you were saying it in. It felt like more of a warning, like I should beware of something and yes, I want to be aware, again if that's what you meant ..... although, again it doesn't appear you did mean that sentiment. There is no doom or devastation if our awareness of the absolute is merely conceptual or limited or veiled in perception, it just is. For my own experience living a fulfilled life, at peace and in joy is the point even if it is an illusion, I just want to enjoy my delusion! I don't need "truth" or "infinite absolute nothingness" or "enlightenment" or whatever attainment of some ultimate abstract to be fulfilled. Just being present, appreciating the moment, embracing life in it's simplest expression has way more effect of dissolving the suffering in my inner life and increasing the enjoyment of my whole experience. Whether it's limited and conceptual only matters is if those concepts and limitations are bringing me misery, if not, so what? I don't set up the conceptual belief that those conditions of limitation prevent my joy. Kitty aint go no time fo dat! Meow!

This post is so thumby....be it every day in every way.... simple.

Sometimes I wonder if the mind will collapse in exhaustion and just give up under the strain of the constant mental masturbation some people put themselves through... or maybe that was your plan all along.

@thesmileyone Allow me to offer my apology to the enlightened master for mentioning what my simple awareness observes.

Just about all of it.

@DocHoliday Well, I know what I must not do and that is to continue on in this conversation. Enjoy your beliefs and live your life as you see fit but I suspect you will still confuse your own personal truth for an absolute one since you really don't have any choice not to..... it must happen, right? So be it.

Our perceptions in awareness appear to be similar in experience.

@Joseph Maynor Even without the accumulation of senses that creates perception on which the mind builds paradigms out of ideas and concepts that we use words to communicate our awareness observes the ever-changing nature of existence.

Why do believe this? Often what contributes to the confusion is that existential truth is also relative.

@Annetta Anything can be constructive, destructive or have no effect at all.... or any mix of them. I have found the more complex it gets the less likely the teaching is relevant to a wide range of perspectives. Which is why 'teachers' often say alot of stuff in hopes just one little bit hits the spot. The issue becomes that someone may believe all or much of what those teachers say based on just one piece of it resonating with them so the clarity of that one grain of guidance often gets covered in a mountain of distraction.

Those two beliefs aren't the same. The first is very close to the genuine definition of belief itself which is 'accepting that something exists or trust in someone/something'. So we are just accepting it, by definition it doesn't necessarily imply any interpretation of what exists that we are accepting. We can have very few ideas, concepts, beliefs, explanations and interpretations or very many of them and our belief in them doesn't make them true or exist, just that we believe they do., we accept/trust they do in our own mind. That first one also doesn't imply a necessity of things as they are, just that it is as it is and it also doesn't imply we have no input or influence in things as they are. The second one says everything "must" happen as they do which says a requirement to happen, that there is no other potential way for it to happen. Of course if the universe is of infinite potential as you also suggest in your opening post then that second belief is an inaccurate reflection of what really is because it says potential restricting "must happen". Although, it explains why you then believe a very "no control" belief paradigm in thinking that we have no freedom to willfully intend anything other than what "must happen". Yet again, if the universe is infinite then our ability to have the freedom to willfully intend is a potential that can be....so "must" be? Hm? The universe just doesn't "must happen" to produce musicians, people willfully intend to make instruments, learn to play them and do play, without willful intention there would be no music. So, yes, 'accepting what exists' is a basic belief and a fundamental observation as you suggest, yet, the complex belief paradigm that may spread from the "must happen" can be a spider web of "why's" that could entrap someone into feeding the identity. Our ego wants everyone else's ego to surrender to it's own belief paradigm because it needs to be validated just as it seeks our own belief in it's construct to be empowered. Yes, this just may be my own perspective, experience and fundamental observation so you don't have to believe a word of it, there is no must requirement.

You said this in another thread In this thread you say all of this.... So there are a bunch of beliefs in that second quote..... will you be dropping them? Even the idea that beliefs are coverings to be shed is a belief.... so, drop that one, too. It's living your life in contradiction, do you want your light to shine? Let it shine!

@star ark Oh, I wasn't replying to you but yea if you believe it was..... you, too! Hehe

Faith is the force in willful intention, belief is really just how in ideas and concepts we apply that force. The ideas and concepts we use change as we evolve over time but the force of faith is like love, how and who we love may change but love is a force that drives our will just as faith does. When we align love and faith together in our intention it strengthens our will to such a degree it can transform our experience in unimaginable ways. This is why other's 'beliefs' are impotent ideas and concepts to us that often are empty of results because they rarely have the force of faith within our will empowering them.

You are just so full of beliefs....