SOUL

Being is just being.... awareness of being is just awareness of being. Thinking, feeling, talking, eating, pooping, sleeping, farking, dancing, creating, working, meditating, praying and everything else we do are just the things we do while being.......they are activities while being but cannot replace or displace being and cannot happen without being just being in the first place.

Transcending the concept of truth just is what it is but to tell it to another or explain it is a concept. Hehe

Gravity is a concept..... that things fall just happens. Awareness of just being present isn't a concept but for me to tell another or explain it is a concept.

I might say those questions could be more concisely asked. How authentic are we? How genuine are we? How at peace are we with how it is regardless of how it is? But yea... it's just words. hah

Some people have self important or moralistic perceptions of their own life choices in comparison to others, don't let those people's attitudes influence how you perceive your own choices. If you don't intend to harm others and your actions bring as little harm to yourself and others as you can reasonably do then just find your way and be at peace with it.

What does this even mean? What word did i change? Now you read minds to know intentions of others from what you perceive to be happening? Did i judge anyone? I made no moral judgements, that's just your erroneous perception. I'm open to someone having their own perspective, I just don't have to agree it's an accurate perception of what is and I can say I don't, this doesn't limit my openness to them having their own perspective. It also has no influence on whether it's accurate or not. The question really is a matter of why are you so triggered by someone telling you it? What you declared is your own personal truth, it's just yours and doesn't make it true for anyone except you. If someone says to you if you don't believe in Jesus and the bible you're sinful, going to hell after you die and they say this is the truth, does this make it true for you? Does it make it an objective truth in the manifest world and does it in fact happen in your life and death? Is anyone else's beliefs true for anyone else just because they believe it to be the 'truth'? People can believe anything they want, they can perceive it any way they do, they can have their own perspective or change any of them as they see fit. Waving around the name of Buddha doesn't make what one believes or says the truth, it just makes it their own and whether it's objective truth is based on the correlation between what they say is and what really is, not their belief in it. Although, our personal experience of it and what we believe about it is our spirituality, this is our subjective experience of it. The nature of this is the way we deal with the pain, insecurity and unknowns in life and death. How we manage this in our 'spiritual life' creates or eliminates the influence of them in our experience of being. So the exacting details of the way we believe it, perceive it and of our perspective is a personal truth that really only matters to how much self suffering it creates or eliminates in our experience of being. There is no knowing an universal objective truth in spirituality so that one teaches another as some 'master', it's personal, it's subjective and we all have our own experience of it. My only goal in speaking on spirituality is to encourage people to find their own perspective which brings about the cessation of their own self suffering. It's not about teaching a personal truth as some universal truth, if the results around us are any indication then this quite often does cause self suffering, not cease it. So one person's spiritual truth is another person's bullshit.

Again, I have compassion for people who are self suffering and seeking relief from it only to come across double speak like this professing to be "the most truthful truths". I see right through it though. Your distortion of what is unity is clear to see. Things are what they are and our perception of them doesn't change what they really are, just what we perceive them to be. Unity simply means that even though there may be perceived individual parts, they are a collective whole that has a relationship with each other to be what they are not that they are the same. Unity isn't that food is the absence of food, they are what they are, food and the absence of it. Yes, hunger and satiation depend on contrast to be what they are and there this relationship between them within unity but what you are saying is a distortion of what unity is. Maybe it is just a mistaken perception by you of what unity really is. This isn't even referring to the unmanifest, the infinite potential that is not manifest. Even with that there isn't this one is the other concept because there is no one and other so it cannot be said they are each other. No, what you are saying is just plain contradicting and is confusing people seeking genuine liberation. You don't even have the 'non-dual' conceptualization down very well but I'm not going to untangle it now.

Fair enough, you didn't use those exact words but when you say this in response to when I say it is what it is, meaning things are what they are, you certainly are implying that differences are the same. Since you cite it being the most truthful truths I'll use that as an example. If truth is what it is, it's truth and if it is not as you suggest then it's not truth, that would mean it's also false both at the same time. So if truth is truth and false both at the same time then it's nonsense to say anything is the most truthful truths one can encounter because it is also the most deceitful deceptions as well. Things are what they are and they are not what they are not but they are not both what they are and what they are not at the same time, that's just nonsense.

For people who claim it's all an illusion and it doesn't really exist they spend alot of time and energy with complicated conceptualizing on 'nothing'. Hmmmmmmm it's as if something gets justified by all of it.... haha.

Sure, what is not is not, that's what it is......not. Yet, to say all differences are the same and are no difference at all is a distortion of transcending separation to awareness in unity because in unity the differences don't exist, not that they are the same. I have so much compassion for people who are miserable and seek liberation from self suffering because they encounter the non-dual double speak and initially it sounds deeply mystical but really much of it is just nonsense. I was fortunate enough to begin my path before I was exposed to that stuff so by the time I did I could see right through it. No, but one has to have direct experience to know the truth! Who is there to experience? There is no experience, there is no direct, there is no truth because it's also false, it's nothing and something all at once and if you buy my book and program, come to my retreat I will teach you how to spin it like me! Guru beads not included....baha

That's just a word salad.....baha

So it is what it isn't? Or it isn't what it is? Illusion is that it is not as it appears...and that's what it is. It is what it is even if we cannot perceive it as it really is or know it as it is... it still is what it is. Liberation doesn't rely on accurate perception, correct understanding or full knowledge, it's the cessation of self suffering. All too often seeking the 'truth' is just another activity the ego uses to justify itself and creates more self suffering through it.

There just is what is.... some call it nothing, some call it something, some call it everything, some call it all of the above, some call it none of the above but it is what it is even if we don't accurately perceive it as it is. Of course, there are some so completely convinced they do know what it is as it is and that is the delusion of this illusion. Perceiving what is as it as isn't what liberation is, liberation is the cessation of self suffering and quite often seeking the accurate perception of what is can cause self suffering.....even if it is an illusion, it is what it is.

No can do brotha because it's you replying to you through me..... again. hehe

I've enjoy at least one song or a band from nearly all genres or an artist and or a work from all different styles and mediums. I have also played different instruments, in different genres and made art and crafts in many different mediums. Appreciating the diversity of experience and expressions is exercising passion like a muscle for me. Seeing the divergence meaning in things like with now here-nowhere, all one-alone, wholly-holy communicates wide ranging concepts in seemingly similar sounds is expanding consciousness. I slept on this post and woke to think/feel it went too far off topic the first time so edited it to answer the question asked of me but tie it to the topic....heh apologies.

I chose for me to reply to me through what appears to be you...again.

So I see I chose to create this thread.....again. BAHA

I don't see that.

I replied to your post before watching the video and then watched the video to find he talked about the very same separation I did, he spoke on the unity I did. It's just words yes but it is what it is. every-thing-ness... some-thing-ness... no-thing-ness.... whole-ness.... aware-ness.... conscious-ness.... haha....ness.....

This. @ivankiss Although, don't allow the conceptual nothingness and somethingness to become just another dualism in the mind that causes separation. It's unity.

You may want to contemplate the distinction between radical acceptance and extreme endorsement. We can accept the divergence of expression in experience and explore it fully without having to identify with the expression in experience by endorsing it to an extreme....or at all Although, your point is going to completely lost on the 'nothingness' gurus because of the dogmatic adherence to what they believe is 'truth' according to their dualism mindset. Don't let them steal your joy! If you are experiencing genuine liberation in awareness of just being present it will be obvious......right now it appears not quite realized.

That's amazing! You're almost at peace with just being... other than the 'at peace' part of it since there seems to still be some unrest going on in you about just being. It's kind of paradoxical but getting to where we are simply at peace with just being is the 'non-activity' that empowers liberation. The yearning for something to attain or to do something has almost been quenched so a genuine peace in awareness of just being present will blossom in liberation. That you are still a little bit restless in it isn't an indication that there is something amiss, it's just the body's natural inclination to desire something. Once you experience that genuine peace in just being that is when actual fulfillment from just being present will quench the accomplishment based satiation from desire as counter intuitive as it sounds. The liberation from the existential yearning creates a sense of peace and fulfillment that surpasses any of the achievement or situational ones because it exists regardless of any conditions or circumstances. We are at peace with just being so fulfillment is being present and anything we add to it is just that, adding to already existing fulfillment and peace but not the indulgence in feeding the craving for self serving which will continue to be a cycle of desire for something. Some may say then you won't want to do anything or will lose all motivation of purpose and meaning but contrary to this assumption everything we experience in liberation is fulfilled. Every experience is even more 'rewarding' because it is experienced through the lens of absolute peace and fulfillment of being present not based on meeting expectations or successes in achievement which may not be met or fail to happen so be left unfulfilled. Then anything that is done is a genuine expression of joy in doing it not a self identity creating and sustaining justification activity. Through this liberating peace in being those disingenuous activities will lose the allure and the things that are a real expression of our joy will illuminate in our experience of them. So you are on the cusp of this liberation from yearning to be at peace with just being present.....just a little bit of unrest to clear out. Kudos.

@ivankiss Well, I had my first awakening very young but I was quite troubled from abuse so it took many years for me to be free from the misery inducing conditioning. In HS I was inspired by artists like Dali and Escher, my mind's ideas were always better than my skill as an artist though. My mind is ageless but the brain that holds it has a few miles on it.....haha.

You forgot that someone will post Leo's 2hr video about X and X.... yes or no? Haha....