SOUL

A misidentification exists....it is what it is....a mirage exists, it is what it is. It may not be as it appears but it exists as it is. This is acceptance of what is. The misinterpretation of illusion as 'does not exist' is a common one and yes, it exists, yet an illusion is 'not as it appears'. We can transcend the appearance of self like seeing how the magician does the illusion, the mind is a mental magician performance for the observer, our awareness. Then you go on to say the body is still here....so which is it? Dropped or still here? Your right about spiritual ego, though, it sneaks back in all sorts of belief about 'what is' to justify itself. "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." - Albert Einstein

@VeganAwake You don't know what I experience but I am aware of yours. You have become aware of awareness at the heart, so to speak, of consciousness that is free from self, this isn't something that 'falls away', it just is. It was there when we were a baby and as we grew we became distracted from presence by the activity of the mind, that activity is generating the sense of self. Except, now we aren't distracted from presence, unattached awareness of being. Yet the sense of self still exists because the body still has the urges, impulses and sensations of it's biological nature. Our stomach still grumbles, our toe hurts when we stub it and it produces the stuff it did before to motivate the preservation of the organic entity. The change is in that we aren't distracted by it, we keep present in unattached awareness so this is that 'freedom' you speak of. It's what brings liberation because we don't attach to the mind's activity and place our trust in the identity it presents so cease self suffering. There is opportunity for us to condition the mind and body to be less 'clingy' in it's activity so it comes in harmony with awareness. This subconscious cultivation can amplify the presence we experience, our being finds unity through it and without any inner conflict it is a tangible peace. The difference is that I don't create a story around this experience, I just be it. The dogmatic no self narrative is surely popular but it is another belief system oriented around dualism of true and false. You can craft your story telling so it is flawless according to the sages through the ages but it is just a story. So don't mistake what I perceive and experience but it transcends the no self story, what is just is and I don't need to create it to be something more than what it is, I just accept what is. But yea... you keep honing your story, someone will believe it....mostly you.

You just stated something you trust is true... then say there's no one there that believes anything because the self isn't real....which is what you accept as true, you believe it. It really is quite humorous the way people spend so much energy telling everyone how nobody exists....again and again in every way possible....yea, quite humorous. You can try to circle back around with their same no self talk a few more times but it doesn't obscure what is, I see it clearly as it is.

So you believe that no self/no belief = freedom......hm, interesting. belief : something that is accepted, considered to be true.

Being awareness transcends...... why limit isness through our experience's perception of it?

@zeroISinfinity hmmmm ok, thanks? haha

Until awakening to it one won't realize one can transcend the 'truth/false', 'reality/illusion' and 'I/god' imaginary conceptualizations. There just is.....and being awareness is just what is.

@mandyjw People are lazy, many want instant soup that others have made and will measure others to it but even if we make our own the inner nazi appears to measure others according to our soup.

Thanks for proving the point. You have no authority over anyone else's experience to tell them it's 'not true', 'false' or 'wrong' no matter how much you believe in your own experience and perception of that experience. Transcending our own experience as 'truth' is of the no-self path so to speak.

@mandyjw It is wise to be aware of our own inner 'soup nazi' that takes our mystical experience and perception of it to create a 'truth' conceptual paradigm and measures (imaginary)others according to it.

When someone is telling others that they are not awake because the experiences aren't the same it's an indication of how much awakening still is untapped in their perception. What some people are unaware of is that the experience they have is their own and not a universal experience that all have the same way so there is no such thing as a 'wrong' or 'false' experience. One can say it's not belief but trusting that one's experience is 'true' is what a belief is so if someone isn't relying on their belief in their own experience being 'true' then they would not say to another theirs is 'false'.

Including 'I am god' which is just another belief concept the mind has been psychologically primed to imagine is the 'truth'. I was told I am not awake for saying the same thing so not sure how well it will be received here.

Awaken to being awareness, of presence. The aspect I was waiting for him to mention is the quenching of yearning, it is tangible in our experience of being.

So much hamster wheel running,...haha, being transcends it....awareness is freed from the 'vice'. Awaken to being aware.

Liberation from self suffering brings clarity to perception and yes, clarity allows one to perceive liberation. Clarity transcends the story telling and the gas lighting of people who use clever words to obscure the nature of 'what is' with their explanations and descriptions in imagining obstacles and tasks of their own creating. Being present is not any advanced conceptualizations or complicated methods, it's the absence of those. Clarity in transcending the stories, explanations and descriptions, awareness of being it, just being it. It's simple. Be liberation...be peace, be joy, be love, be fulfilled... be here now.

You are imagining me 'starting to get it', that's an expanding of awareness in acceptance. Cool.

Why do you suppose the Buddha didn't teach of god? Oh that's right, he's not awake either, huh.

You are just imagining that there is someone else being 'false'. In awareness transcend the hierarchical conceptualization of I and god, in holistic unity there is no such thing as I and god, it's in the imagination.

'God' is as imaginary as the individual 'self' is, they are both part of a conceptual hierarchy that has been primed into our psyche and once someone transcends this psychological paradigm in awareness it is realized that the notion of 'I am god' is just another facade of illusion. So just be.

@Beginner Mind Don't even allow expectations of any number of hours of 'work' needed to experience the expressions of awareness, it's all available in the present moment. Any amount of time spent without it is the mind setting up imaginary obstacles it's wants you to navigate to 'get' it while the whole time it's always right here now to experience in awareness.

@Leo Gura Ok....if you imagine it that way.

@Leo Gura I'm aware you're unaware of it as your reply indicates but your unawareness of it doesn't limit my awareness of it...maybe eventually you will awaken to that.

This is such tedious bullshit of mental masturbation. There is a backside, we can be aware of it in fullness even if it's doesn't appear in perception. The rendering of the 'game' as the appearance still has all the1s and 0s so to speak that create it even if they aren't apparent from the perspective we view from, seen and unseen are relative. Reality is 'rendered' and we interact with it in our imagination yet in awareness we can transcend just the appearance of it to be aware of the whole. Why would 'god' create what we don't perceive is not the question, it's why do we limit 'god' to what we perceive at the moment? We can't see our asshole but we can be aware of it, the backside exists even if from our perspective it doesn't appear to us. Releasing the attachment to just our perspective in imagination is the same as releasing the attachment to self and allows us to be aware of the holistic expression of unity, of infinite 'god' if you must. Yet, the yearning to see it is what hides it from view, the mental masturbating about this is trying to seek the 'completion' is not being aware of already being complete. Once one stops trying to see it, to understand it and simply be aware, in presence of being all is revealed in the fulfillment of well being.

@joeyi99 @Beginner Mind Pursuing, achieving, 'mastery' even our inner work can be the mind creating restlessness and a sense of lacking or incompleteness. Resting in awareness, just being, is not 'doing' anything with our peace, fulfillment and well being soothing the restless mind will appear in contrast to it's turmoil. Then whatever we actually 'do' in life is an expression of our well being from resting in awareness, by just being present, not what we 'do' brings us well being so it isn't dependent upon any accomplishment or as gaining something we lack. We are already complete and 'full' even as we are evolving through life.

Are you expecting? Well being, peace, fulfillment are expressions of awareness but awareness itself isn't those, those are an expression in being from resting in awareness. As we rest more consistently in awareness we become more acclimated to the expressions of it in being so it is less noticeable until the turmoil in life comes and then the expressions of resting in awareness reveals itself in our being. I hope that clarifies.