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They may have their downsides, but there are also positives. Labeling for example is extremly useful when you are unable to have a clear mind, but don't want to stop meditation. Using it you can meditate for hours, even if you are a beginner. If you do enough labeling, eventually your mind will ponder over something that can't be labeled and get silent naturally.

In my opinion it's still there, it may be expressed in a more subtle way (not always), but it's still there.

Sounds fantastic and is entertaining to read, but it's still materialism. Such ideas or philosophies don't come close to Enlightment.

@Lauritz when I say after effects I mean for example as far as two days after the trip, as in this example. Don't take it too literary, I describe a state of consciousness here. Do you want to prohibit Enlightened people from driving? They might experience something similar. Have you ever ridden a motorcycle? Some people report similar experiences of merging with the machine when ridding a bike. And now I totally get what they mean and why driving is so addictive for some people. If I could feel non-stop like that when driving, I would drive 24/7.

@brovakhiin Yup, I am looking forward for my first trip on 4-HO-MiPT. It's the only legal alternative to shrooms available in my country. Already bought a scale for weighting these psychedelicacies. @OBEler Preparation tips? I always clean my house and room before every trip, too. I prepare all props like pen and blanket, put usefull things in accessible places, etc. Every RC shop can make a mistake. I wouldn't worry about one or two tabs with name of the substance written on it, as it's probably it, but I would never take high dose of something untested, because if it turns out to be DOx or NBOME you can be in a serious trouble. Even if shop owners have good intentions they could have been scammed and sell mislabeled stuff. Also, not every batch is equal, sometimes there are impurities, so even if you have tested the substance, you should start low, because the test won't show you quality, only the type of substance. There are enough amputation trip reports on the internet. Like this one where guy binged on 130mg of DOC total and lost his fingers. It's highly stupid dose for DOC, but not that unreal for other less potent drugs that also come in powder. I know testing is a pain in the ass and at first I was hesitating to buy reagents, because AL-LAD and other lysergamides are fairly safe, but it's worth to have them at the house. Or maybe the other way around, the risk is not worth it. There are easy to use 3x or 5x kits that are prepared exactly for testing lsd-class substances, sou don't have to buy a lot of bottles of reagents at once.

Yeah, personally I have started seeing serious results when everything got combined. That means regular sleep - going to bed between 10-11PM and waking up at 6-6:30AM (without alarm) - eating more fruit and veggies, loss of weight and less work. But sleep is the most important factor, without it I feel numbed, mean and almost antisocial. Its not about amount of rest, but it's quality. I seriously encourage you to experiment more with the sleep routine.

What about your sleep? Please tell how much and how regulary you sleep. Also, are you taking any stimulants, like coffee or tea? If yes, that could be a factor too.

How the fuck are you going to determine who's undoubtely enlightened? I want to see your method. I think it's because Enlightenment can be approached from two sides. You can either deconstruct reality until you get back where you started, or build up on top of it to get to the same point. Both paths take you to the same place, Nowhere. Or Everywhere, depending on how you look at it.

And for retreats, books, courses, etc.

I am interested, can you provide a source? If restraining from "adjusting the antenna" for a couple of months can make me trip more effective, then why not, I will try it. In the end, it's not that hard (pun not intended).

@Hardkill I don't know why, but I don't believe you. If you say you have had approached 1000 girls, you should have some kind of proof, like notes, reports, conversations on Messenger. Maybe you have, but didn't share? If you had shared something like that it would be much easier to guide you and pin-point mistakes. If you are approaching, but not making any conclusions out of it, then you might have an answer why you suck.

I really liked the idea of writing trip reports after psychedelics and started to apply it to other domains. It's very applicable to social interactions. Writing such report is a good oppurtinity to understand something on a deeper level and get aware of the progress you are making. And integrate yourself better. Pickup creates a lot of emotional turmoil, similar to psychedelics, writing it all up helps in organizing your feelings. I really encourage everyone to do the reports after party, clubbing, meeting with friends or other situations. After few years they can also give you an insight about how much you have changed. Here is an example: So, the day before I have talked with Karolina and Gabrysia. We were waiting for extra Math classes. The topic was relationships. I got to know that Karolina's boyfriend broke up with her. I couldn't miss that piece of information. We had fun talking about stuff. I was cool with my lack of experience in dating and managed to have a conversation with them nevertheless. The next day I was in a funny mood and thought that I will ask her out. I couldn't find a right moment, so just as I was about to leave a school, I have approached her and said, "Come on, Karolina. I will show you something", then took her hand and walked few steps to separate from the group. Obviously, after she made me wait for her 3 secs, as always. It's almost a ritual that she has to look at the phone one last time. Now she asks, "So, what is it?" I hesitate a little bit after hearing this and then go all out! "Date with me," shock and smile on her face, "For all those times when you have said that you really want, but something, something, something." My hands were shaky, but she couldn't see it, it was very subtle. "I can't blah blah blah." "Don't you fool with me," I said with a smile. She laughs, "I would like to fool with you!" "So, what about friday at 18:00?" "I can't I am meeting with collegues from middle school on that day (that's actually true, I knew about it, but forgot) and on Saturday (she goes with that almost immediately) I am meeting with girls (our classmates). I have gasped, exchanged few words and left with overall conclusion: "Fuck her, it's not worth to ask her out at all, but I will probably do it again just for the sport and fun." We were both flushed with the present moment during this conversation, so grounded. I felt funny and masculine afterwards for a few hours and now she is much nicer to me so it was worth it. I have once heard from a wise guy that you have an unlimited number of tries with friends, so I will continue working on her. It's undesired to have an image of the future (good or bad) when it comes to social interactions, because it creates fear. Here I had no expectations. I have just prepared in my mind where I want to take her and went all out. I can also confirm that bold actions like this agitate other males who will try to bring you down to their level, but only those who are interested in the same girls, others won't say anything. WHAT I DID WELL? +++ I have asked her out at all. I took her hand and distanced from the group. I was stragith-forward, standing in front of her and holding eye-contact. My voice was clear and confident. I didn't feel rejected at all. WHAT NOT SO WELL? --- I could have created a situation where she get genuinely interested in me and then ask on a high-note, so I could cut through her bullshit and make her choose me over her friends. WHAT CAN I DO BETTER? ^^^ I can escalate much more physicality with her. If her response is bad, then don't worry, just calibrate and try again later. I can be much more persistent. I can put even more effort in making her comfortable, because I want to hear honest answer and not softened PR version.

@Lorcan wrong idea, she is a friend, so pushing harder would be inconsiderate and weird. In my opinion, of course, that is how I felt in this moment.

Facebook is useful, but very random at the same time. It's a reason why it sometimes give you golden-nuggets you wouldn't find in any other way. Local websites and sites like OLX or craigslist list events, including retreats.

I want to emphasise this LYING part. I catch myself doing it a lot... "I don't demonize girls," "I don't envy other guys," "I am not butt-hurt," and then I have to tell myself, "You stupid quack you do exactly the same thing as they do." Example, there was this girl who started hitting up on a guy 2 days after we have had intercourse. We were together in a group on a vaction trip. After the trip I started making up a story that it did hurt me and it was partially true, but when you consider the fact I wanted to go and have sex with some hot Spanish girl too, the whole narration of being hurt is NONSENSE It's not the reason to judge someone, because they do the same fucked up shit as you do, but more effectively. That's just making yourself a victim and giving others a power over your well-being. @YaNanNallari You could have added that to your first post.

@Spiral Yes, that's why I have added a part about inevitably becoming interested in each other's hobbies. Maybe I have phrased it badly in a previous post. If you really care about a person you will eventually become interested in what she is interested in, and it works both ways. So as long as your hobbies are not totally lame and boring, and you are passionate about them, I think they don't have to be the same.

@Spiral True, but it can be easily fixed. You just go out and have fun together. We are all humans and there's always a plenty of topics that almost everyone can relate, like taking a shit kind of jokes or age-related activities like studying at school or finding a job. Common hobbies are not a must-have in my opinion. I see a possibilty that I would become interested in what my hipothetical girlfriend is doing, just because it's she who is doing this. And I think this can work mutually. But I totally feel you. I would actually like to have a girlfriend who is into spirituality, psychedelics, marketing and the same age as me - more than a casual girlfriend I just have fun with and as you say carnal pleasures.

Lack of hot girls to approach and deficiency of female friends. Possible solutions of this situation in my case are: moving to a city, starting education at the university, attend local events, like "foreign language lovers" coffee meetings, changing a status from friend to boyfriend material with cool girls I already know, going to the clubs more often, spending more time outside the house, ask some girl on the internet to learn with me to the end of high school exams. None of which seem really appealing at this moment. I hope it helps you at least a little bit.

Trip Report - AL-LAD, 150mcg SET&SETTING: After school (15:30), knowing the next day lessons are at 8:00, one tab of AL-LAD (150mcg, untested) was ingested. Parents magically disappeared to do the shopping until 19:45. Empty stomach, one banana eaten during the trip, zero nausea. Eating fatty food and donout at the end of the trip resulted in feeling "tired" in the stomach. ACTUAL TRIP: Started off with music, then dropped it. Without it a lot of dreamy thoughts have appeared. These were resisted and trying to contemplate the substance of reality was choosen, although it didn't go smooth. The main conclusion is that there is no perciever and no perception. Some emotional baggage realted to male-female relationships was brought up and mainly ignored. Advice was given to actually understand the situation. Mechanism behind the scenes did exactly what it was supposed to do. Actually appreciate experiences given and enjoy the possibility to grow. All the pain is created in the mind and the story of being hurt reinforces the ego. What was given during this trip is an ability to see reality as non-existent during self-inquiry. During this trip there were moments when I was a higher intelligence teaching the ego how it should behave, giving myself insights. It reminds me of a psychological concept of superego, ego and id. It was choosen not to assume existence of any entities, including myself, so there haven't been any creatures met during this experience. SIDE NOTES: Insights from the trip get clearer with every day and somtimes drastically change contradicting the previous thoughts. It's like they are maturing by themselves. Next trip needs better preparation. In every possible way. It would be better if there was more self-inquiry done prior to the experience. Also less social contact and even less external stimuli. There should be no fear of someone interrupting and no fear of losing mind. 150mcg seems somewhat over-the-top for a party setting, extrapolating from this experience, sticking with a little bit less will probably result in cleaner experience. At the same time effects may get killed with reasoning. It needs to be tested, but it's always better to test with lower dosage. I get curious about the correlation between realms of experience and Truth. I assume they are a distraction when it comes to pursuing Enlightement, but it's amazing what's possibly possible. Whole reality feels magical for the first time in my life. Effects on the body were moderate, but they are still there in a mild form three days later. Whole body feels different, but still tensed. There wasn't any energy release throughout this trip.

NEW UPDATE 30.11.17 #48 + I drove a car to school today. My twisted ankle is getting better with every day. Karolina has been asked on a date by me today. It failed due to logistics on her side. That or she simply rejects me in a nice way, because I am her classmate. There's waiting in a queue. There's some irritation. #publichealthcare 29.11.17 #47 = I have not slept well. Work was being done until 01:00. It was a very messy proccess. It was realized that I am self-deceptive quack. Telling myself stories that hurt, although they are not real. And this is just another story. During self-inquiry session, there was a feeling of reality getting dissolved. It got as deep as seeing thought wireframes of personal reality. There were thoughtless moments, sadly it didn't dissolve ego completely even for a moment. Quality over quantity. This applies to consciousness work very much. Work on becoming cool with not being funny, not having anything interesting to say, but on the other-hand improve those qualities. Yet, don't focus on them too much. There are bigger fishes to fry. Establish a self-inquiry habit. Coffee gives me diarrhea. Avoid it, it works and allows to work on a high gear even without sleep, but is not sustainable and has some strong side effects. Focus on a healthy diet instead. Get back to improving your diet. Be consciouss of everything you put into your mouth and see what results you get. Observe your state of mind, bodily sensations, energy levels, awareness capabilities and their correlation with food you ingest. I forgot to make an entry this day. It was supplemented on 30.11.17. 28.11.17 #46 + Psychedlics were done today. It was kind of hard to fall asleep. Eyes were dilated for full 8 hours on al-lad. 27.11.17 #45 = I have slept alll.. day. 26.11.17 #44 = How do I get out of this shithole? Invasive thought come and creep inside my head. I am unconscious most of the day. STOP foucsing on that and making a narration. Don't beat yourself up. Simply start working towards better future. Be patient to a hardcore extent. Sleep is important. Don't hesitate to take a nap, don't hesitate to meditate. 25.11.17 #43 - I am spontaneously going deep with my meditation. Lack of sleep and my head hurts. I continue to work. I need to get out of this loop. Ate too much today, my stomach hurts. Gyros. Few fruits. Donut. Sandwich with chocolate creme. Some bread and bortsch. Some sweets. Salty breadsticks. Toast. - It's a bad mix. I need to clean myself a little bit after this weekend. 24.11.17 #42 - Same story as day before. 23.11.17 #41 - I did some work. It went terrible, I was doing it for like 5 hours and ended up around 1 AM. I think Capoeira might be interesting. 22.11.17 #40 = Ego backlash - day next. I hardly can force myself to do anything. There were exhaustsing tests at school. I have meditated, but it's not what it can be. I can do better. I became unaware of egoic structure that was in front of me for a couple of days. It hasn't disappeared, but reinforced itself and now is strong again. 21.11.17 #39 -- I experience massive unconsciousness backlash. I am stressed out by a lot. Ate too much meat with veggies and now feel tired from digestion of these foods. I am doing maths. There's a deep sense of something like a Core inside of me. Something that's sitting there steadily and working non-stop.

Hah, it often happens to me that I want to see gross experience, when really what I am after is a subtle thing. But then you notice this subtle thing and it becomes GROSS. Quite a paradox.

@egoless how I see it; most people will agree that what you see or hear is not "real", it's a subjective perspective created the moment you see it. Now you just need to drop an idea that there is a "brain" where it happens or objective physical reality which is percived. There's only this personal illusory perception which is Nothing. You can say it either exists or don't exist, because it's of different quality and neither of these words describe it in full, that's why capitalized words are used to indicate that. I am sorry I can't describe it better, but I don't fully understand that yet myself.

I would say to focus on intensity. Doesn't matter what you feel, just make your experience intense. Like in anger or extasy, put all you have into it. Sit focused like you would want to kill a man right now. Sit in a so intense manner that people are afraid to come by.

I am amazed that it has triggered you guys and can't disagree more with what you are saying. I think you are misunderstading what this list is. It's not a set of rules that one has to neurotically comply with, but guidelines that make you aware where your interaction is going and how to alter it's direction. It's a basic chimp stuff and it will happen to you whether you like it or not. People do these things unconsciously. Knowing the tricks, you can act in adequate manner when someone is using them on you. It's not only an offensive tool, but also defensive.

@Ilya Ego tries many different things to avoid getting hurt. I think you are lying to yourself. If you didn't want a girlfriend you wouldn't be here asking this question. Drop the narration and see what's left. That is what you really want. Don't tell me what it is, don't write it here, but answer for yourself.