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Immortality for relative beings doesn't exist. Only God is immortal.

@AtheisticNonduality That's a little bit more than just post-scarcity, but I am okay with it. But why cannot some cyborg just gain control of resources and create artificial scarcity to have power over others just for the thrill of it? If some system prevents that it's not anarchism then. "Everyone will be programmed to be loving and kind by default." Ok, but if you can't voluntarily change yourself into a murderous psychopath, then it's not anarchism. Although, I am of opinion that neither of our current political labels will match that very far future awaiting us. I just find it wrong to use such dreamy examples as a way of validating anarchism or other similar ideologies as something that is progressive or has a future - it does not.

I had had to look it up and the first site that came up was RationalWiki ... Anyhow, I don't see how that term applies. You have tried to miss the argument by saying that this only happens to biological organisms and then I point out to you that it happens to every kind of organism, whether it's a human cyborg, bacteria or some immaterial ghost. If it's that trival then why would you make your argument in the first place.

The Universe works as such that if something can happen on a biological level, then an anologues event to that can happen at a psychological, spiritual, etc. level. It's being called an infinite fractal for that reason, the Universe is self-similar. Everything is prone to change, you are safe nowhere.

That's a weak point of Stage Orange ideologies and models. They are often so fine-tuned to some particular conditions that they lack resilience. Paradoxically the better something is in that paradigm the easier it breaks when conditions change.

I guess a troll is as good as it gets for a monk in a Himalayan cave.

100% free forum cannot exist, because the real people would be outnumbered by spambots with 1:100000 ratio.

Reading those notes almost felt like being on the journey with you.

Yeah, the dissonance as a kid of eating a rabbit pate, yet thinking, "but those were our cute rabbits". Or the chickens running around without heads. But that's not sociopathic in any sense, that's just living in the countryside.

@corbenspears I would start with mushrooms because of the trip duration. But if you have full 12 hours in a safe place for yourself then LSD is better I think. If you take 100-150ug then you are guaranteed to experience a proper trip with full range of effects. If you dose too low you might get a wrong idea about what psychedelics are, so if you start from low doses and ramp it up over the weeks, then remember to never get cocky and watch out to not dose too much.

It's cool, buut... I prefer macrodosing. But hey, if you don't have time for a full trip and want to benefit from using psychexelics it's then a great tool for that.

My best shot for not only Yellow and Turquoise, but all of them: Beige: Basically a chimps troop. Purple: One chieftain in power. Red: Hierarchy of power with resources always going up, the boss never gives back money to his people. Blue: Hierarchy with an absolute authority on top and resources traveling up and down the hierarchy as needed. Orange: Hierarchy with added professional relationships, so now you can work with your equals without the need of boss' overlook. Before, every information had to go to your boss first and only the boss could have made a decision. Green: Flat hierarchy run by a democratic consensus, where everyone is equal and has a say on how resources are distributed. Yellow: Self-organizing natural hierarchy that acknowledges the individuality of people, hence the different shapes instead of boxes symbolizing that the role in the organization is customized for the person and not the person being forced to fit into "a box". Turquoise: Adding more harmony to the Yellow style of ogranizing so it works on a collective level? This one I am not sure about.

I am pretty sure that legal research purposes do not include administering 5-MeO-DMT to humans in Canada.

God is not what you imagine, so also beware that anything you imagine as having sex with God is probably off the mark too.

I have contemplated this question a lot as a kid. My best answer is: "Why can't you taking 100% responsibility be the reality you have no control of?" There's no reason why it cannot be so. So accept that this is the reality where you are becoming a great human being and you have no choice about that. You are destined to be great*. *Caution, some temporary obstacles on the way ahead.

If I go to sermon I have to listen to shitty theories about gays, family, addictions and more. It would be nice if priests were educated to a level to have even a hint of relativity in their thinking. It's like you hear a fragment from the Bible and think: "wow, what a cool non-dual teaching", and then comes a priests' interpretation and it makes you wanna leave immediately, because of how stupid, literal and one-dimensional it is.

Because they are stuck in Blue/Orange mostly. Just the same reason why the most reputable priests don't use feminist theory or Derrida in their sermons.

@Epikur I am not sure what you are talking about, I have seen successful coops, even with 600 workers. So it's certainly not a fantasy. There's more of them in Europe I guess. People sometimes underestimate development of leftist ideas in countries like France or the Netherlands. Oh and I have just remembered, there is this big grocery store chain from the Switzerland called Coop, they hire something like 80k workers. I am just not sure to what degree they are really a co-op.

@Amanita Leo has probably sampled half of the research chemicals market out there. I am 100% positive he has tried some dissociative and some rare 5-MeO. We are not talking about a single substance. There's some wild stuff you can order nowadays like 5-MeO-TMT or 5-Bromo-DMT. I wouldn't try it though

@peanutspathtotruth I only have experience with 4-HO-MiPT, AL-LAD, 1P-LSD, LSD, DPT and 5-MeO-MET under my belt. 4-HO-MiPT is my favourite. LSD and DPT are second, LSD sucks because of the duration and DPT has weird bodyload.

@Leo Gura Have you read "Reinventing Organizations" by Laloux? It's full of concepts and examples that would match the more earthly direction your channel has taken recently. I find it a way more interesting read than other Spiral Dynamics books.

Ok, my guess is Leo hasn't really checked the wikipedia list to see if there really are all the substances he has tried, but... If we were to limit ourselves to it, here are my guesses for fun: 2-FDCK - from the very old trip report, before DPT, I think it was about some dissociative and Leo hasn't told anyone about it because they are dangerous. Next, I think are DiPT and 4-HO-DPT, because of their resemblance to DPT, I believe Leo might have been curious about their effects. 4-HO-MET, because it's a well-known classic, Leo had to try it for sure. Or maybe 4-HO-MiPT, because it's presumably more spiritual. 5-MeO-MiPT, because it's Martin Ball's second favourite. And I would guess 5-MeO-MALT or 5-MeO-DPT as a substance "that almost no-one has ever taken", Leo sometimes talks like that.

Rule of a thumb says if it's stage Green type of co-op then it should be more effective than stage Orange meritocratic hierarchy. There might be a few unsuccessful adaptations of stage Green values to business at first, but eventually it all should end up in creating a better model for business, assuming the pattern holds for stage Green. If not, then we will have to skip to Yellow's self-organizing teams and natural hierarchies.

@Strstus nope, not at all. Win-win is not enough. Providing solutions for oil companies, selling luxury yachts, or being a weapon contractor for some mob boss is not a conscious business even though your clients might be very happy with the service and you with your earned money. First priority of a conscious business is not to cause unnecessary harm. If your niche creates a lot of burden on a environment and is of a little use to humanity as a whole then it's not a conscious business.

I know a local farmers co-op that had pushed hard on being completely flat but eventually gave up because when they grew people just naturally treated founders and people with longer membership as leaders. Rotation of new members has also been a problem, someone who has to introduce them to all the concepts in a way becomes a mentor to them, their views on the co-op influence choices of the new members and if they fall out before creating their own opinions it seems like the training person has more power in decisions. Plus constant going in and out of organization creates instability.