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@OBEler My argument was you know shit about industry, global economy engineering and what real-world efficiency means. Then on top of that, it also doesn’t make sense from the perspectice what most humans value in life. Betting on developing efficent AI and humanoid robots combo capable of performing at the human level in the next few decades is a ludicrous bet. You are detached, I am grounded. You completely dismiss the complexity of what you are proposing and the cost of that complexity. Cost we have no way of paying as humanity right now or it makes no sense to pay it. And before you say „history has proven tech sceptics wrong many times before”… You are not proposing trains faster than 60mph, you are proposing flying cars by 2015.

Ukraine always has been this country right in the middle. That's what the name of the country means, it's the border lands. They are quite close in culture to Polish people, their language sounds similar, Western part of the country has been historically mainly populated by Polish and Jewish people, but they are Orthodox and use cyrylic alphabet so that's what pushes it a little bit to the Russia's side.

They are very tasty! So not a bad addition to your diet. Mushroom proteins and beta-glucans are very valuable diet components.

I have had better mental game for psychedelics when I was doing them often than I have now. It's a skill you kind of lose if you don't trip often. Like tripping twice a year, you will never learn to properly direct your mind during the trip. You have to do a three months of tripping every two weeks at least to get skilled at controlling your trips and be well-accustomed to tripping.

@Ramanujan I also hype SRS (space-repetition software). It’s just that Anki or RemNote are better options than SuperMemo in particular. They do the same but better.

Because whenever God stumbles about something other, it turns out it's just another part of Itself. That's the meaning of being limitless.

Yeah, I have slowed down with it for a few years at like 23, I think. Got side effects from too much Kriya Yoga, also psychedelics have siphoned out too much motivation out of me. Maybe I will get back in the game in the 30s, right now I am trying to live my life to the fullest and realize non-spiritual life purpose.

@Jehovah increases For posting 10 random posts in a row. Also, no-one is threating you, just informing, it is the system, it won't be personal when you get banned.

@Francis777 If you want ot participate in the war by yourself you obviously have a higher morale.

@Francis777 just look for interviews with soldiers and look at how many new recruits each country gets to see who has higher morale.

Ken Wilber has had an online university of his own if I remember correctly.

@OBEler Take a break and read some wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_utopianism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalist_Realism

This is not a valid logical reason for creating such robots unless your only value in life is efficiency for efficiency’s sake. And that’s assuming your premise is not completely WRONG, which it is. I have already been done with this conversation five posts ago, consider that my last post in this topic unless someone new chimes in.

@OBEler Simple facts are I am talking reality and you are presenting some wet techno utopia dream. I have voiced my opinion in the beginning and laid out an argument. You have done nothing to substantiate your claims that we as a humanity can build such robots or AI anytime soon, and also didn't provide a reason why would we even need them. What's the use for AI humanoid robots if people can operate industrial machines right now without any super-robots? You know nothing about machines and how much resources their upkeep takes. You know that every little engine needs oil, every hydraulic part needs oil and is prone to leaks. They have optimal work temperature ranges. Every moving part wears. Precise, human movement-simulating parts wear even faster. Such robots would be a maintenance shit show. 70% of your robots would be working full-time to sustain their own population. Pointless robot-centered economy. Like, these are teenager's dreams while our world is burning. It seems you would like to burn some more oil to create pointless robots.

There is nothing like an upgrade without energy. You want to count toilets as an energy expenditure but take secure global internet network and its upkeep for granted. The software updates of AI systems take not only work of the programmers but also a lot of computing power, which is again materials and energy. The robots also need energy and anything we know now is way less efficient than humans' thinking. I am also pretty sure that a breakthrough in that regards is not going to happen in this century. What timeframes are you thinking about, because the topic has started as about the past a few decades back? It's not narrow, it's humanistic. I value the existence of complex life on Earth, and human life in particular. You value what?

@OBEler You need to create an update by using a lot of resources, robots also need hardware updates and their parts wear. You need a big industry to service them. While humans' minimum requirements are eating berries and shitting in the forest. Furthermore, creating comfortable environment for humans is our goal anyways. Why are you even mentioning it, what are your values that you need to count livable conditions as additional cost? It's the rock foundation, my whole point is people won't invest in stupid robots without being warm and that's why your techno vision of the future probably won't happen, because we are nearing an end of cheap, abundant fossils. Nothing we have can substitute for oil well right now. Lots of research needed just to sustain what we have.

I would say that nothing in the Universe is random, it’s all deterministic but based on infinite chains of causation.

@Scholar Machine Learning is a very bad example of randomness, because it needs a fucking ton of intelligent intervention. From the choice of learning materials through coding everything and correcting its behavior at the end. It’s actually one of the stupidest examples, because nothing about it is trully random. Try to make a useful program from random strings of numbers purely.

It’s bullshit it will produce DMT, bothing like that has ever been proven and also nothing points in the direction of it being true. Like why would even need DMT to see colors and lights in the dark? There’s fucking plenty of other potent chemicals in your body being produced every second, DMT has no special status in human biology.

Ryan Holiday is a kid. I would recommend his other book about media manipulation (he worked in media marketing) for young guys, but that’s it. His philosopy is shit. There is a very cool copy of Marcus Aurelius’ Meditations with intro by a greek researcher of the ancient times. That’s the best version of this book you can read.

You don’t understand. It uses way more calories than humans to do the same work. It is only profitable, because for now we still have abundant cheap oil, so like tens of thousands of virtual human slaves operate this robot. That’s not efficiency in energy sense, that’s only efficiency in the market sense. The only inventions that can beat efficiency of biological organisms are the devices that amplify abilities of biological agents, like a bicycle or some machine with levers. Solar panels are worse at converting light to energy than tree leaves. And you don’t need as much energy to grow a tree as to build a panel (which also enetually dies and needs rebuilding, just like a tree). Maybe now you get the idea of how biology wins.

You guys do you. I prefer sex with a girlfriend, which as an experience probably hasn't changed much since the 80s.

@OBEler Any serious task. I have used it thoroughly, ChatGPT4 is shit. Maybe GPT4 (non-chat edition) with bigger memory would be usable but they don't allow you to buy access to it. First, technical improvements never have surpassed human efficiency. Biology still wins. Second, where the fuck are you going to source your energy in the future? Humanity is on a crash course right now, unless we miraculously find some quality energy sources in the next few decades. Are you even aware about current situation with climate change and oil drilling? Humanoid robots is not a priority technology. AC so people not die from over-heating, for example, is. Something tells me you have little to zero experience with engineering. I think the life got better since the 80s because of positive change in cultural values, but have low hopes for the future, because our material situations gets more dire with every year. If it will turn out that people are still happier and happier in the future, I am 100% sure it won't be because of some freaking humanoid robots or weird AI, but because of there being more of what makes humans human, community, solidarity and sharing love.

@Ramanujan yes, it’s the worst choice of this type of apps. Anki is the best if you want control and longevity of your knowledge database, it’s free and open source. RemNote is best if you want an easy app to make flashcards out of your notes qucikly. It’s closed source and you can export to Anki or some other format, but the export is not perfect.

Yes I use spaced repetution a lot. I prefer the RemNote app though. And use other apps that have spaced repetition built-in like Practice Portuguese for learning you guess what.