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I totally get your feeling of wanting to help your family to not suffer and to wake them up, and I have also been that enthusiastic about what I am learning that I just want to share share share! One thing though regarding the stages of awareness in other people...I truly believe in the saying that when the student is ready, the teacher will appear so I wouldn't put any pressure on yourself in trying to help your family because if they are open to it and are curious, they will surely ask you!! You are doing such a great thing and are obviously a kind and compassionate person!

@Annetta ~Something about this video and the message from beyond really struck a cord in me. I listened to the entire 13 chapters and the peace I felt after was just incredible. It makes perfect sense, all of it. I think it is really powerful to listen to something like this. It is quite different than the usual material found out there and I loved it! Different methods work for each of us to "wake us up" and this really hit home for me so thank you so much for sharing! I went on amazon and purchased 3 of the books of Seth and Jane Roberts! Peace and love to you my friend!

In my case it relates to PTSD from my workplace.....I don't want to give attention to any specific issues and I don't believe this is the platform to discuss personal issues like this so I have not included details on this. This was a topic I started because the person I was seeing is vehemently opposed to any form of self help or mindfulness or basically any other methods other than his own. I didn't understand how someone who is vested with the responsibility of aiding someone's mental health could be so closed minded and opposed to practices that can help a person heal or feel better or make progress. I don't understand why he acted so threatened and angry other than he took it personally.

@Annetta This is really amazing! Thanks for posting it!!

Thanks for the input and clarifications but I have decided to follow my intuition and what feels right to me and I am looking for someone who I click with and who uses EMDR therapy. I believe that I have learned all that I can and feel it is time to move on.

Why is the field of Psychology so threatened by spirituality??? I am in shock. I could use some input. I feel very threatened after my session with my Psychologist. I told him I have been reading things that are helping me and he blew a gasket. He went off the deep end, turned red, started defending his profession, told me that spirituality has no use in helping PTSD and doesn't do anything at all and is a waste of my time. He said that I am trying to undo everything that he is trying to accomplish. He basically said that if I want to sabotage myself then all I had to do is stop treatment for PTSD and read my books. He told me to let him talk and then later I can ask questions so he could go off on a rant about how much success he has had in treating PTSD. He immediately went on the defensive once I mentioned that I felt some of the things I have been reading and doing have helped me in my day to day life. He flew off the handle and went to the white board and drew a graph of how PTSD from childhood progresses and on and on about how he is an expert in his field and basically how dare I question anything. I tried to say why can my spirituality not co exist with what he believes in and he said it's only because of his treatment that I was able to pick up a book and read again and that by digging into spirituality I am just mixing myself up and it will hurt me and I will not get better. He said he has been trying to treat two other patients that believe in spirituality but he has had them for 7 years and cannot get anywhere with them because they do not want to focus on anything bad. He said that is crazy. When I questioned him about what he knows about spirituality he really got upset. He admitted he knows nothing of it. Says he is too busy making people better being and expert therapist to read anything. I remained 100% conscious for almost the whole time but he slowly got more words in than me and "took control" of the session, apparently convincing me that he is right and I am wrong and if I don't listen to him I will not get better. Thanks to anyone who can comment. I feel my very core was just assaulted by this man.... Then, I hate to say it and this is why I am feeling so devastated.....I did think, what if he is right and I do need to treat the PTSD his way? I'm very confused but thanks for this forum because maybe someone can shed some light on how I can stay focused on what really resonates with me and what I feel has made me feel like I could live happily without suffering....

@Nahm What do you think about Jim Newman and Tony Parsons....where they believe we are nothing and we have no choice in anything?

Thank you so much for the inspiration! I love that saying and I especially appreciate the reference to the ship on the ocean. It is so helpful to read the message! I have written this out on my inspiration cards and I will keep this one close to me all day! Love to you

It seemed as though it was completely let go before I started with that Psychologist. Because of the therapy, I was forced to bring it all up again. Not blaming him but that was the reality. That is my issue with therapy, they want to dig and dig and I don't want or need that... before that it wasn't something I spoke about or re-visited in my own mind... I'm wondering if it is normal to feel a bit of un-ease with the decision to let that therapist go. It's not a regret, is more like a feeling of did I really do this on my own because I am not used to listening to my intuition and maybe this is just my baby step towards freedom. I do notice my thoughts keep wanting to go back to his txt where I was "dismissed" from him so there is some remaining emotion of ...maybe it's a rejection or maybe to me it feels like a rejection. Something my mind wants to dwell on but I am catching my thoughts on it every time and then I realize in my heart this is what I wanted. Maybe it is a thought of dis-pleasing someone.....I'm not sure but it was a strong reaction right afterwards and it is lingering a bit Now the work of finding a new Psychologist begins! Deep breath!!

It could be a trap of the mind? It seems to me there are two clear areas of perspective.....either you are nothing and nothing is happening and there is no choice and the body is part of a consciousness that already knows what to do and we do not need to seek or look for anything because we alredy are what is........ OR There is a path or a way or a means to know your true self which is called enlightenment or liberation or freedom from mind. I am still looking but in the most simple way, I seem to be seeing two different ways or maybe two tricks, I don't know...

Yes, I believe carrying all that went "wrong" in your life without understanding that it was all part of a story of a false person causes extreme stress. I have been to so many counsellors and therapists over the years and no amount of talk therapy has ever helped me not even one little bit. It might make you feel better for a few hours or a day but it doesn't last. There is a definite feeling of dragging around this heavy burden throughout your life. I have had a particularly hard life from a child through all of my adult years. I know it was the beliefs i had about myself that made me make the wrong decisions and not listening to my intuition at pivotal points in my life that shaped it into a series of periods or intense suffering. My parents were not equipped to be parents and so the issues arose from there and got momentum and never stopped until recent years where I discovered spirituality. That has been the biggest life changing force in me. I will try to drop the heavy baggage that I have carried with me through out the years because it serves no purpose at all and isn't even real. Its a story of what might have happened but is no longer. My goal or purpose is peace, that's it. Thanks so much for your views on this.

@Prabhaker Western psychology’s aim is to fortify the individual’s ego so that he may become less neurotic, slightly happier and ultimately function ‘better’ in society. You will be more normal, but to be normal is nothing. To be normal is not even worth talking about. To be normal means you are as you should be ordinarily. You will be a more adjusted person in the society also. Of course, you will be a little better husband, a little better mother, a little better friend, but only a little. Man can be physically ill; then the physician, the doctor is needed. Man can be psychologically ill; then a little help can be given by Psychologist. But when man is existentially ill, neither a physician nor a psychiatrist can be of any help. And the illness is existential. Man suffers from a spiritual illness. I agree 100 %. I truly believe that a lot of dis-ease is spiritual. In my own personal situation, I have the experience that tells me that once I started reading and diving into my spirituality, I felt this sense of relief and freedom, a sense that this is the meaning of why we are here in the physical body, to experience a human life. I do see where Psychology seems to want to repair the ego and that is why it seems not to work because isn't the ego fragile? Is it not easily offended and has to defend itself all of the time? So you could spend years with a Psychologist building up the ego to only have it crash and cause extreme suffering once again.? Maybe...

Wow, I didn't realize that. I do recognize some names of course but that is a big list. I don't often run across any of these names that are in the public eye or it seems to me there are many more males that are vocal via the internet or maybe that is a mis-conception also? Thanks for the list!

What about your intuition? I believe you will KNOW when the time is right if you listen to the messages you are receiving...

This is very well put and very beautiful! Thanks for stating it under such a beautiful and powerful light. This is our nature and once we are open to it and access it, we could all spread it around like wildfire! I am working on noticing a deep level of love for myself right now, because as said above, you can't give away what you don't realize in yourself. I am a student of self love but I have learned things; that we are all truly deserving of knowing how whole and perfect we are. Once we realize that then we can pass that love on. I believe love is blind so anyone or anything in our reality can be easily loved. <3

I have sent the text asking for my future appointments to be cancelled. I must have been projecting my own faulty beliefs on the situation. She did not ask me for a reason. She said that I have been formally discharged from his service and my file has been closed. I believe that was the "last word" spoken. She said " WE wish you well". End of story, beginning of a NEW one. Audios

Thanks for this suggestion. This is an eye opener for me. It's like the video was made for me personally, I am so uncomfortable with not knowing what an outcome will be that I have been making rash decisions out of the need to feel like things are being dealt with and the mind can put it to rest. I believe this has caused me a lot of harm over the years but it stops now. I didn't realize how deeply negative doing this could affect ones life. This ends now for me... I am going to brave these uncharted waters and start tonight with a key issue that I have been dealing with. Thanks so much to everyone for your heartfelt comments.

Thank you all for your valuable input. I have decided to end my relationship with this therapist. I will let my intuition guide me which leads me to surrendering. Watching Leo's video on Confusion has helped me immensely. I am letting go of my need to know what the outcome of decisions will be. Feels very freeing.

Why would someone be paralyzed by indecision and what can you do when you recognize this? This has been an issue occurring in more than one area of my life for a very long time.

You really have a good grasp of what is. I appreciate you expanding on this. I or whoever it is, false self...am trying to follow what is being said, I can understand in a scientific way but I have questions that are of a practical nature to what is... I agree that what is, is beyond comprehension, infinity cannot be understood by a mind. Please indulge me a bit further, I am interested to know more....I am not arguing any points... What do you mean you have no control over whether or not to meditate? What do you mean to be the actual experience? To live totally in the now without thought? How can a mind suppress all thought? Or am I missing this entirely? Can you explain further about accepting no choice? How would your mind work without choice, which way to drive to a destination? Do you mean it really is an automatic thing the brain does it just appears that we have a choice? I am asking about practical choices in reality.. I am interested in understanding and I grasp the nature of what he is saying, I guess my mind wants to understand how this affects the reality that you are in a human body and are interacting with the illusion of life and a self.. Thx!

I never considered that option! Thank you. I have been seeing him since Dec 2015. His wife is his office administrator and so I know she will push for a reason. Since he is a Psychologist, he should be able to figure it out but he will come to the wrong conclusion because he won't be able to see beyond his ego so I'm sure he will tell himself that I am recklessly ending his successful therapy.

I have made the decision to not see this Psychologist again. I would appreciate any input on what words to use in a text to let him know. I'm not sure how to word it but I'm thinking something like.... take your narrow minded egotistical view on Psychology and try it on yourself.....Ok kidding! But really, I want to say very little but I don't know how to word it.............."You're Fired"....Donald Trump style. Seriously what can I say? I've decided to ?????? ......then I haven't a clue what to say. He already knows why..... it's just a statement I have to make to end it. :-/ Why is this difficult to find the words? I don't want to offend him but anything I say will hurt his ego....and offend him... And why do I care.......because I've been a people pleaser most of my life I guess if I am honest.

Thanks so much for your input! I'm glad you saw a real value in your therapy and that you had a wise Psychologist. There is good understanding of the brain to be had, I believe that. The trick is in getting the right person I think. It sounds like you had someone who recognized what your experience of your thoughts were doing to your body and in noticing that you made the connection.. I definitely notice my body when I am re-visiting a trauma memory, I can feel my heart pounding, dry throat. My Psychologist has noticed my face go red and my body language. He says it is the sympathetic nervous system kicking in. I do see the value in therapy, I just have a conflict with the therapist because he acts lt of ego all the time. Every session I have with him, he goes into a story from one of his other patients and tells me how HE noticed this or that in them which led the patient to a huge AH HA moment or that he "knows" what already happened to a person by them just telling him a bit of the story....example...he had a new female patient go to him, she relayed her traumatic childhood. As she was getting to the part where she was in college, he said he guessed that she was raped. He went on to tell me that can tell by a person's history what is very likely to happen to them. He constantly tells me things like this so as to prove how good he is? It's like the saying: He is always ringing his own bell. This is not productive to me personally so I don't know why he feels like he has to keep doing this?

I watched some more of Jim Normans videos and read last night about this and I think the point is that there is nothing to create there is only what is. There's no one to do anything and there is no YOU. There is just infinity and the illusion of "you".... Everything is infinate......I can't really grasp this concept. If this is the case, then why do anything? Why work on personal development? I printed out a Core Values Workbook yesterday to try to discover what my true values are but if there is no me or I and I have no control over anything because it's all a dream, why do anything to change your thoughts/views/beliefs/perceptions. I don't know what to do anymore about any of this. Very confused right now.

I don't know enough about all of this to comment. I am open to the seeking of all things. I will be looking into this further....There is so much information on this site and videos, I get very flustered trying to sort out which thing to look at next because I want to know everything whoever i is...