Staples

It is a blessed, endless task.

Peter Ralston mentioned a similar experience while training martial arts. He was focusing on learning gravity and grounding when his sense of self dropped into the floor beneath him. And this perspective helped him to fight well.

Survival Things feel bad because the body knows too much of it will kill you. Things feel good because it helps you survive. However the body is easily tricked, and it always reacts unconsciously. So you have to use your intelligence to discern when the body is reacting unconsciously, and use your wisdom to force it to react consciously.

@Nemra You won't realize god through rational debating. You need deconstruction. As your self-appointed consciousness doctor, I prescribe you 20 psychedelic trips and a Peter Ralston workshop. 🫡

No, only one if them is god. And you are it. And I'm not trolling you - I'm trying to get you to look at it differently. You'll need to stop drawing distinctions and grasp directly in order to get it.

One of these emojis is god. Which one is it? 🍹 or 🐢 Choose wisely. (Working on my Zen Koan writing skillz 😉)

It's like round earthers vs flat earthers arguing, without either side having had the brilliant idea of putting on a spacesuit and looking for themselves. Be the astronaut

People thought they lived on a flat earth for a long time, before they learned it was round. The same situation applies now for understanding God. Use whatever word you like to describe the Absolute. No requisites required, only insight and high levels of consciousness. You are God, so no additional connection required. Just more consciousness and grasping of paradox.

You are here. That's all you should need to confirm God. The link between physical reality and a conscious experience is magical and inexplicable. In theory, you could map every feeling and thought onto a set of atoms behaving in a particular way. You could demonstrate that 'sadness' for example is caused by certain neurons firing. Yet you are still no closer to solving where the experience of consciousness comes from. That's god.

Will you complain when robots replace all the sweatshop slaves? The sooner basic needs-meeting can be automated the better, so we can all get on with self-actualization.

Swifties, please just let him just lose the election fairly first.

And yet here we are 🥳 Party time.

@Keryo Koffa I love these 😂👏

@El Zapato Quite hollow. The constants are what they are because they can't be another way. Pi is pi because that's just what circles do. It's not designed that way just to support life. That's more of a nice byproduct. As for Copenhagen interpretation, we still don't understand quantum mechanics enough yet to grasp the justifications god has designed in that domain. But surely, they are there.

Nothing mystical here. It's clear he just wasn't interested in awards, money or fame. In fact he probably saw those things as negative in some way, which is a construction.

Your theorising directly contradicts my direct experience. I sense more nonsense. Have you ever experienced any of that? I've not.

@Ishanga Good for you, sounds like a wonderful life. Don't worry, I will not waste my life. My self-actualization is just different to yours.

That's your prerogative. I'm going to figure it out the best I can. My desire to understand outweighs the desire to avoid suffering. From my point of view, I would say you give up too easily or are not interested in the deepest understanding.

If there were no limits, and everything was somehow equally possible, then it would be possible (and thus necessary) for nothing to have ever existed including now. Thus, not allowing for reality to exist in any way. Yet here we are. An absence of limits is nonsense. It's a non-statement, that can't be properly considered because it is reasonless. Reality is not constructed with nonsense. Reality is unlimited in the sense that can create anything that can be constructed with sufficient reason.

@Breakingthewall Then how do you explain irreducible complexity? My awakenings have shown me God has justified absolutely everything. The cause / effect paradigm can be rationally understood as necessary. If a thing happens and there was no cause, you have nonsense. Therefore, existence is eternal, and the causal chain is infinitely long. The reason reality exists is that it could not be any other way.

God is so serious it has gone full circle and is now entering maximum silly mode.

But you are god @Ishanga. At least a part of it. Nothing egoic about admitting that 😉 If a bird shits on me, really I shit on myself. Staples just doesn't like it very much. If I told the bird: "Don't shit on me for I am god." then I would deserve a second helping of shit. But it doesn't make my being god any less true.

Leo recently posted on his blog a video detailing Lacan's concept of The Real. I thought overall it was quite a good analysis. I liked that it recognized some sort of fundamental bedrock, black hole, singularity within consciousness that cannot be undermined or shared. First order truth? Great, I can get behind that. That should be graspable to the people on this forum. But the conclusions and framing that come from that are just so damn depressing. I haven't read Lacan so maybe this is PlasticPill's influence, but it struck me as an extremely human-centric, and negative view on existence. And the music... so melodramatic . "Most of what we do as subjects is to try to avoid the recurrence of that original trauma that was forced on us when becoming subjects. We lost something that we never had, significance. The Real is incurable, it's there because you're a subject." He's framing the real like an incurable disease, something to be victim to. This perspective seems to me to be the response one feels as a human when you have developed sufficient self-awareness but not the psychological development required to handle it. Lacan read the Necronomicon before he was ready. Do you remember being a child? The Real suggests you must be traumatized from birth with this self-awareness, but in my experience this must be impossible. In my life, I started off with zero self-awareness, and it very slowly developed until I hit my late teens. Memory formation didn't even properly begin until I was four or five years old. How could I be traumatized by self-awareness in such a state? I was eating cake off the floor at that age, I couldn't give a fuck. So, I can't accept the trauma of the real as some sort of fundamental aspect of being. What do you think?

The Real is a Real pain in my ass.

I am not so sure. I could point to quotes from both of these schools of thought that link desire directly to suffering. But it seems we agree on principle which is nice, and just discussing interpretations now. Mirror stage is not the beginning of desire though. Plenty of animals lack self-awareness and desire to eat and fuck. It's probably closer to when a subject begins to construct some ideal self which they are not. Which leaves them vulnerable to disappointment when reality is otherwise.