Revolutionary Think

It's kind of sad that ever since I posted this @Leo Gura has not responded and has just continued to put tons and tons of anti-Israel bile on his blog and on his forum. I think the points I made here still stand and are important to pick apart. Ever since the worst terrorist attack and the worst attack on the Jews since the Holocaust it's just been anti-Israel hatred over and over again. I don't think that's fair and I'd expected better from someone who fancies themselves as "enlightened".

Exactly Trump's celebrity endorsements are just as stupid as Kamala's I'm against both of them.

So I couldn't help but, notice that Kamala Harris does all this pandering with celebrities all the way from Bruce Springsteen to Cardi B. That's just shallow. Isn't the whole point that Trump is a celebrity and what does being a celebrity have to do with Politics and yet the Democrats keep getting these rich out of touch celebrities to endorse them.

I'm just going to put this here.

On that note I'm not saying that I support the settlers and some of them are religious finatics. They are although a far cry from Hamas and Hezbollah that actively want the full eradication of Jews and are willing to indiscriminately target and murder civilians. If the Palestininians actively condemn the actions of Hamas and Hezbollah and want a peace with the Jewish state that they can be at peace trade with them and be civilized with them etc. I'd be more open to criticizing Israel. When I see them though doing the exact opposite and their entire culture is based on hatred and not contributing anything positive to humanity. You're damn right that I'll be supporting and backing Israel 100% of the time because the Palestinians never showed one iota of acting in good faith. Once I see good faith on the Palestinian side which doesn't even exist I'll be more open to talking about criticizing Israel but, if I don't see that I'm with Israel 100% of the way!!

I said Israel isn't perfect. Are you also willing to acknowledge injustice on your side as well. Or is this just a one track mind thing for you?

I'm sorry but, what you said doesn't make sense. Let's say there was a group in Mexico that demanded the land back that it got from the Mexican American War ok so we give them California and they use California to launch rockets and missiles at the rest of the United States. Not only that but, they get help from some Muslim country in fighting us. Then the Native Americans on their reservation start getting the idea of wanting to kill the white man and start entire education systems to educate their children to die for this cause. If you want to talk about terrible behavior Russia is also not interested in decolonizing or in this case de-sovietizing. Also if you haven't noticed Iran's government doesn't exactly represent their people they way they torture and kill all those who speak out against them. I'm wondering if on your blog right after 9/11 twin tower attacks that you'd actually put on documentaries on how bad and evil America is and that Bin Laden was justified because we're not interested in giving land back to the Native Americans that we stole from. Then you would say America deserves it because we're not interested in decolonizing and all the US bases we have overseas are a colonization project at that time you'd put stuff highly critical of the US right after 9/11. I'm not saying Israel is perfect far from it. Yet, when we live in a world where we see so many people in Iran rising up against their own government and their government using the blood sweat and tears of the Iranian people to fund a cause that they shouldn't even be a part of in the first place... We critize a teeny tiny state the size of New Jersey for oppressing people and having too much land. I'm sorry I'm not buying it. When there is so much corruption, and devilry all around the world they first target that people love to hate is the only Jewish state. To me at least be fair. I think this obsession is because Israel tends to end up in the news a lot and then people laser focus on one of the tiniest countries as the source of so many problems. Far be it from me to say that they are perfect. Although I think there are so many other countries acting far more nasty and cruel to their own populations with a history of far more brutality and barbarity and yet people LOVE to pick on Israel.

What country wasn't? The United States, Canada, and Mexico all hurt their indigenous populations.

So let's keep working on that hypothetical. Let's say you give money back to the bank in 2005 and the bank used that money to buy rockets, rape your cousins, and murder your children and parents. I wouldn't trust that bank. Also the minute you were born the bank got a bunch of it's banker buddies together and tried to kill you immediately and you protected yourself in self defense. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_disengagement_from_the_Gaza_Strip#:~:text=The disengagement plan was implemented,the August 15%2C 2005 deadline.

The Jewish state was created to protect Jews from BS like this. At least be reasonable and balanced.

@Scholar At 2:56:56 on this video he says he wishes he could go back and take out all the immaturity and other such things from his work. When I first stumbled upon him because mainstream society, the schooling system, and my family were pissing me off and getting on my nerves I was actually looking for a person who was more like me and noticed these things as well. Then I found him and enjoyed what he had to offer but, every time he'd use insults and profanity I was saying to myself that something wasn't right and it turned me off. Fast forward to Today I think in the past if he was challenged or disagreed with before he would double down and start attacking people for being foolish, not enlightened etc. Now though I can see the difference he was open to another point of view and didn't get mad and use insults. All other poeple I've seen with big positions of power and large followings always get defensive, angry, double down etc. for him to admit it's wrong and work on it to me shows true character. Cult leaders and corrupt people in general always attack and double down. People who actually care about others and try to do good take time to self reflect.

You're free to do what you want Just keep making quality content and don't underestimate the knowledge and wit of the people who are your audience. In fact in the last video I was very happy to hear you admit that underestimating us and not having respect for us is something you regret. It shows that we're all growing. Keep doing what you're doing.

I'm not wasting my breathe or rather fingers on this convo anymore. It's always a sisyphean waste of time. I just expect someone like @Leo Gura not to just look at things from one point of view but, rather multiple points of view. As for me the less I argue about Politics and the middle east the happier I am. I've come to realize when people have deep rooted biases they never ever want to change their mind or steelman an argument they are stuck in the mire of their own point of view because of childhood, personal reasons etc.

In this instance I agree with you Hamas TV is trash quality stuff through and through. This one seems like a decent documentary but, it has violent scenes in it. It's also 11 months old.

In fact Palestinians can't even get along with themselves let alone getting along with Israelis and the West.