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I'd say you haven't done enough research on Bipolar disorder. You don't "learn" the disorder. Studies have been done on family members (twins) that weren't raised together for example. Why do you think there's a spiritual component? Is there a spiritual component to diabetes?

From Mayoclinic.org: Causes The exact cause of bipolar disorder is unknown, but several factors may be involved, such as: Biological differences. People with bipolar disorder appear to have physical changes in their brains. The significance of these changes is still uncertain but may eventually help pinpoint causes. Genetics. Bipolar disorder is more common in people who have a first-degree relative, such as a sibling or parent, with the condition. Researchers are trying to find genes that may be involved in causing bipolar disorder. -------------------- My opinion is that there is no spiritual/ ego connection, more so then anything else. It's a mood disorder and ppl can be on any point on the mood spectrum. As there is Bipolar 1 and bipolar 2 disorder with a bit of different symptoms (ie, Bipolar 1 has mania vs bipolar 2 hypomania). Many ppl with bipolar take there meds and live a fairly normal life. While some, that are effected severely will have issues regardless of medication. So, it depends where they are on the spectrum and also how committed to being medication/therapy compliant. My 2 cents.

@Shanmugam Hi!... Am I to say, "yes"? If so, then, Yes. Of course, I would support someone being wronged or accused, for no reason. Even though I know nothing about South Indian Society or how that will bring justice to injustice for this person, but good luck with it all friend. ?

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@Joseph Maynor That is a very good Tolle video. I hope ppl here are watching it. It is the truth, as I understand it. ?

@peanutspathtotruth Everyone on this forum thinks something different. I think what I think and I have reasons behind what I think. I never said this wasn't the case. It still happens in the mind, as I said or you wouldn't "ever" be aware of it. I really hate forums. All the misunderstandings. Such as waste of time going around and around with ppl.

@robdl Yes, I see what you're saying. It also depends whose mind we are talking about...hehe.? One mind may be more prone to this, then another.

Intellect discriminates, judges and reasons. Lower aspects of mind, act compulsively, it's the intellects job, so to speak, to pull it together and make the decisions. I think emotions/feelings stir up more so with lower mind, imo.

@Gligorije Perhaps your wordage is different from what I would say. Firstly, you can't ever be out of a moment, but you can be thinking of past or future and not focused on the here and now. Imo, to be mindful you are focused in the present (not past/future), so try grounding techniques, like the breath or focused on/off on a part of the body (like your hand) and remind yourself that thoughts of yesterday and tomorrow aren't needed "now ".

Pure Awareness is a non-experiencing witness. It is called a witness only figuratively, because without the mind, witnessing can't happen. The realization one isn't the mind paradoxically occurs within the mind.

Intellect doesn't mean thought or intelligence. It is the discriminating "function" of the mind. Pure Awareness is "reflected" within the intellect, causing the sense "I AM".

@Jack River I didn't read most of your post, I'm sorry it gives me a headache, trying to follow your reasoning. Did you/do you know that Self-realization happen's in the intellect?

Yes, and this true witnessing takes place in the mind (ie, intellect), otherwise you would be ignorant of it.

@peanutspathtotruth woooo weeee! My point, any perceiving, conceiving what so ever is in the mind, which intellect is the dicriminitive function of the mind. So, if the mind isn't functioning, well, then you would not have these thoughts now about your experience. Peace out

@peanutspathtotruth You can think it's no longer happening in your intellect...but, it is still happening in your intellect. ?

@Jack River I would also say, perhaps you should try neti-neti method yourself? To get your other questions answered. I'm just not sure what you're asking really.

@Jack River Identification as the false self, needs to transfer to identifiction with awareness. Already described above by @Preetom . My take is that awareness will still have an "association" with the body/mind, transact business in the world, have preferences and what not, but there won't be the "belief/identification" that the body/mind is real and it's true identity.... it's only "apparently" real and ultimately a illusion.

No No No Discrimination, between me (awareness) and objects that appear within me, this happens in the intellect.

Jack river- "Neti neti, meaning, "Not this, not this", is the method of Vedic analysis of negation. It is a keynote of Vedic inquiry. With its aid the Jnani negates identification with all things of this world which is not the Atman, in this way he negates the Anatman. Through this gradual process he negates the mind and transcends all worldly experiences that are negated till nothing remains but the Self. He attains union with the Absolute by denying the body, name, form, intellect, senses and all limiting adjuncts and discovers what remains, the true "I" alone." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neti_neti

@Jack River That's a different conversation. I didn't say anything about "who am i"? I was referring to neti-neti (not this, not that), which is "now" (present moment), not past.

Meditation helps to get a calm/still mind, but Self-inquiry is essentially a matter of applying the general principle that you cannot be what you “see” (i.e., anything you perceive, conceive, or experience in any way whatsoever, subtle or gross, within or around you). Then, what's left, that's the question? Oh, pick one? Self inquiry any day of the week! (If you already can get your mind calm/still in another way other then meditation, like watching a spiritual video or listening to soothing music)

Same as Ramana Maharshi - https://www.sriramanamaharshi.org/ramana-maharshi/death-experience/ (His account of his awakening/ death experience)

That's exactly what made it a flow state..."you" weren't there. It's a beautiful thing! Lol