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Also, today the Ministry of Foreign affairs of russia, warned against Ukrainian false flag genocide operations in Sumy, Kiev and Chernihiv oblasti... Gotta watch for new evidence of russian genocide there...

If the russian army fought as intensely as it was looting, killing civilians and raping, it would have already conquered Berlin, half of Europe and was preparing to cross the La Manche.

I see your point, but take into account the type of military actions. The american led coalition invaded Bagdad head on, it is an extremely dense populated area. Even from low intensity conflict there is gonna be lots of casualties. Now take a look at Ukraine, While there were shellings of Kharkiv (still are), Chernihiv, Mykolaiv, etc, instense urban fighting was avoided (except Mariupol) thus the casualties are lower than in Iraq.

He he boi. Russia and respecting civilians get along as well as cocaine and police. This claim is absolutely bogus. First of all, when 1500 civilians killed means respect for them? WTF, ma man, just in Mariupol AT LEAST 2000 died. Just in Chernihiv, from conservative estimations, 100 people died a day, for 2 weeks from russian shelling.Second of all, the number is gonna increase at least 2 fold after the Ukrainians began establishing control in the northern regions from which the russian army courageously retreated. More than that, it is not just the number it is the sheer atrocity of the majority of the killings,

Several so called ”nuanced” people have propagated russian conspiracy theories that the unfathomable massacres in Bucha, Kiyv Oblasti area false flags. The main, irrefutable argument in their ”nuanced” opinion is the following: ”The Ukrainian side published a video in which it showed the first Ukrainian troops entering Bucha. In that video no bodies are visible.” I decided to personally investigate. Warning! If you are a ”Too fucking nuanced, Stage Coral, I do not fart, I just channel the infinity through me, NATO bad/Ukrainian are Nazis, Rotschilds run the World ” type of lad, you can feel significant discomfort, blame the Free Masons, the Main Stream Media, the Reptilians, Jins, rage quit,etc. In this case, viewer discretion is advised. Note I will post screenshots in separate replies for convenience. Without further ado, let's get it started. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MNuMJNIS64 I decided to geo locate the main buildings, to find the main routes of access of Ukrainian troops into Bucha. Minute 1.43 - You can see the store BFresh. Found it. It is on Shevchenka St, 16, Bucha, Kyivs'ka oblast, Ukraine, 08292. (screen shot attached). It is located in the Eastern part of Bucha. Minute 2.44 - This one wast the trickiest of them all. You can see a stand - "OOD & OOD" with the first letter in both words not visible. I found this place. It is called "Wood&Food". It is on Vatutina St, 3а, Bucha, Kyiv Oblast, Ukraine, 08292. If you look at the screenshot , the street that this place is on, intersects Shevchenka street. Basically the same street as BFresh. Both Bfresh and "Wood&Food" are situated in Eastern part of Bucha. Minute 5.08 - We can see a shopping center called "Novus". There are 2 such shopping centers in Bucha. One on Vokzalnaya street, the other one on Kyeva Myrotska street. If you pay attention there is a white building. If you look at the third screenshot, you can see the same building as in the video. This Novus center is located on the Kyjevo-Myrots'ka St, 104д, Bucha, Kyiv Oblast, Ukraine, 08292. This is northern Bucha. The Ukrainian troops either entered from the Northern part of Bucha, or took a left turn from Shevcenka str. Minute 6.25 - You can see the logo of the Intersport store. The only such store in Bucha is located on Nove Hwy, 48, Bucha, Kyiv Oblast, Ukraine, 08292. Furthermore, the footage shows a shopping center. There is a shopping mall on the same adress. This is the Western part of Bucha. Minute 7.1 - You can see the address very clearly. Vokzalnaya 101. Northern Part of Bucha. To sum it up, We have seen troops coming from the Eastern part (BFresh, Wood&Food), Northern Part (Novus, the sign on Vokzalinaya101) and the Western part (Intersport). So we got North, West and East. The only part that remains is the Southern. Guess where the killed civilians were found on the street? You guessed it. The Southern part. They were found on Yablunska street. One of the most southern streets. Of course in the video no fucking body is shown, cause they are not in the fucking part of the city where the fucking bodies lay.... In conclusion, russian propaganda although very intense cannot cover the truth. It is very usual, when faced with the truth you start to conceal different mental machinations in order to prevent the shock, which treathens your own Ego, thus your existence. For those russia sympathisers, that think that somehow russia is the victim here, WAKE THE FUCK UP. russia is perenial agressor, that strives to impose it's oppressive, feudal, authoritarian system on it's neighbors through barbaric methods for centuries. This is told to you by a person, whose lineage, more than half of it was wiped out by the russians. But don't take my word for it, look for yourselves- The Holodomor, The Katyn Massacre, The Deportations of Basarabia, Poland, Ukraine, Caucasus, the GULAG, the bloody repression carried by russians of the Hungarian Revolution, the massacres of civilians in Afghanistan, the unfathomable massacres of Grozny and Checnya both in 1996 and 2000. This is the russian playbook. WAKE THE FUCK UP. The irony is that I do not hate russia or the russians, I really don't, I am doing this to open your eyes. I will attach screenshots of geo locations, and debunk further claims. P.S. Dedicated to @vladorion, @K Ghoul, @Husseinisdoingfine

Indeed. A woman from my country was traped in Bucha and Hostomel. although she fled the city in the first day of the war, the roads were fully blocked, and the russians already closed the other roads. So she had to endure horrors, although she tried to escape.

@Yarco Don't be so sure. The ruble is artificially stimulated. It is quite hard if not impossible to sustain that long term. While I do not know how much reserves every country has, If the E.U is going to cut off the russian gas it is gonna hit extremely har russia too. Firstly, around 60% of russia's revenue comes from gas and oil exports. E.U is the main beneficiary of russian energy exports. If they refuse these energy sources russia is going to lose an enormous part of its revenue. Secondly, when nobody is buying your gas and oil, you cannot just keep pumping it. You need to do something with it, either burn, either fill your reserves and after that close your oil and gas wells. And if you close them it's game over. Russia is extremely vulnerable to energy sanctions. Before spreading Tucker Carlson type propaganda, do your research.

Oh, I get this, it is very difficult to actually read a few sentences and to understand that there were bodies on the streets during the russian occupation of Bucha. In the same fucking place they were found. Totally get it.

Honestly I am facepalming myself after reading this...

Claim Nr.2. Ukrainians carried the killing themselves. Honestly I am speechless... But never underestimate the russian propaganda... First things first. On April 1st there were russian troops in the city, doing "zachistka", meaning cleansing of the city. That is according to russian outlets... Screenshots provided. That is the first red flag. The russians did not fully retreat on March the 31st. I am speculating but their retreat most probably ended between April the 1st and April the 2nd. Ukrainians soon followed after. THis basically refutes the russian claim that the Ukrainians waited for 2 days, to carry the massacre and post the photos. Thirdly, the most irrefutable argument against the russians: satellite imagery. There are multiple satellite images on that confirm the presence of at least 11 bodies in the streets of Bucha, dating at least from at least March the 11th. Video attached. More than that there is more evidence -satellite imagery of mass graves in Bucha on March the 10th and March 31st. The grave on March 31st is larger than on March the 10th. @Yarco Have I answered your objections? 99816_1_4-bucha-gif_wg_720p.mp4

Screen Shot 4. Intersport Location. Scren Shot 5. Massacre Location.

Screen Shot 4. Intersport Location.

Screen Shot 3. Novus Location.

Screen shot 2. Wood and Food Location.

Screenshot 1. BFresh Location.

UPTADES: For those who said the dead bodies are staged: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/04/world/europe/bucha-ukraine-bodies.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes In short these are satelite images that prove that there were dead bodies at least from March 11th. https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-germany-expels-russian-diplomats-with-bucha-deaths-in-focus-live-updates/a-61348480#:~:text=A mass grave has been,reportedly 57 bodies were found. Here, you can see the mass graves being present at least from March 31st. But wait, cause that will not mean shit in a few hours, cause the Actualized.org's chief Joseph Goebbels @K Ghoul or her deputy @vladorion will come and convince us that it's a false flag by the Nazis (cause all Ukrainians are Nazis) or by NATO. Waiting for it.

First things first. Russia says it left on 31st of March. Meanwhile, it posted this: on its propaganda channels, saying that as of April the 1st they (russian troops hold the line, and are "mopping up the settlements". Any new pieces of russian propaganda to spew?

Uuu boi. Genocide denying brigade is here.

Absolutely. I am an eastern European and I can confirm this. From Finland in the North to Romania in the South there is a contest who hates Russia more. The Baltic states and Poland absolutely despise Russia for everything the russians have done to them - hundreds of years of genocide, Milions dead. Never mention the last 100 years with their soviet legacy. Romanians despise russians for blatantly annexing parts of Romanian land multiple times, for organising genocide, transforming Romania into a communist puppet state (1947- 1989). Moldovans hate russians for atrocious genocide, continuous humiliation, starting civil war, occupying their land up to this land (Transnistria is a separatist russian enclave on Moldovan land) not to mention the fact that Moldova is an artificial state that is a by product of USSR imperialist desire to annex land it had had not historical claim to. And I am not mentioning the Ukrainians.... Russia managed to Unite the Ukrainian people. Now everyone is united in their hatred against Russia for decades and decades. Moral of the story is that in the quest to denounce the corporate media and its propaganda, thou shall not think that in listening to russian propaganda one gains freedom from propaganda itself.

Trying very hard not to laugh. 1. Instrumented a proxy war in Moldova (1992). Russian troops fought on the side of separatists. Russian troops still occupy Transnistria to this day. Guess how the Moldovan side where called by the russians? Fascists. It is the projection game at its finest. 2. Instrumented a proxy war in Abkhazia (1992-1993). Russia supported and trained Abkhazian troops. 3. Invaded Checnya (1994 - 1996). Maaaaaaaaaaassssiiiive war crimes. Russian style - bombed the shit out civil areas (Rings a bell?) destroyed whole towns, including the capital Groznyi, raped women, shot civilians en masse 4. Invaded Georgia (2008) - Created a separatist republic of South Ossetia. 5. Invaded Crimea - 2014; Sent troops to the Donbas - 2014 to fight along the separatists. 6. Invaded Ukraine - 2022. You know the rest.

Oh, maaaan... It's obvious that you hate the West so much, that you are not able to transcend the paradigm of "West bad. West criminal". NATO certainly is no saint. Absolutely. When it comes to Libya it's a criminal. But if you condemn NATO you should condemn what Russia is doing even more. It is an utterly nonsensical smoke screen. First of all, Ukraine would have never joined NATO. It would have never been accepted. As already confirmed. Putin ain't a madman. He needs a carefully constructed reason to act on his plan. It is absolutely obvious that "NATO at Russia's borders" is just a pretext. Why? 1. There are NATO members, that border Mordor, I am sorry, ruSSia, such as Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia that have NATO bases on their territories. Why not mention them? Why not threaten them? 2. a. There are much more important economic incentives for the invasion: after the discovery of vast sources of natural gas in Ukraine, Russian energy monopoly in Europe would have been under threat. Ukraine would have been the second richest country in Europe after Mordor. *Would* ... Why? Simple. 80% of those reserves are located on the coast of Crimea and in Eastern Ukraine. Is it a coincidence that these particular regions were illegally annexed in 2014? This invasion has the goal of ultimately countering the threat to Mordor's hegemony. You invade a country, you install a puppet government. This government allows you to exploit it's energy resources... Iraq 2.0 b. More than that Mordor pays billions upon billions to Ukraine every year in gas transit fees. Even with an intellect of a Mordor propagandon you can get the logic here.... 3. The narrative inside Mordor. The narratives on the orkish state media is that is the "Second Patriotic War". The Orkish Army is liberating Ukraine from it's American Oppressors. That Ukraine has never been an independent state, that the Ukrainians and the russians are essentially the same people and the West has divided them. Given these circumstances the Ukraine must be re united with Mother Russia, and the great injustice manifested in the "Ukrainian statehood" must cease to exist. To sum it up I. "Whatabboutism" leads absolutely nowhere. America committed atrocities. That is a fact. But this does not abolish any moral responsibility for the unimaginable barbarism perpetuated by ruSSia in Ukraine. If you condemn one, you must deffinitely condemn another. II. You are absolutely entitled to your opinion. But, please do your research on the matter of eastern European politics. I assume my limitations when in comes to, for example, Pakistani - Indian border disputes. I am sure I would have to learn a lot from you on this topic because I am geographically, historically and culturally estranged from the geopolitical situation in this region. I am saying this because, not knowing the situation I could easily fall for disinformation and propaganda.

Oh, maaaan... It's obvious that you hate the West so much, that you are not able to transcend the paradigm of "West bad. West criminal". NATO certainly is no saint. Absolutely. When it comes to Libya it's a criminal. But if you condemn NATO you should condemn what Russia is doing even more. It is an utterly nonsensical smoke screen. First of all, Ukraine would have never joined NATO. It would have never been accepted. As already confirmed.

Brace yourselves, comrades, Mordor propaganda incoming... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J55cSx8Rz_g