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Tldr: Your actions, thoughts and believes will shape your afterlife environments.

This was spot on:

@Leo Gura how do you interpret Bashar's statement? As I see it, nothing that can be said will ever escape one's own direct experence, any notion of other will always be part of one's own perception. The only way how solipsism could be disproven imo, is how Ethan Kahn @Synchronicity (from 'Everything Explained' on yt) described it to me: He explained having two (in his case infinite) seperate experiences simoultaneously. While each perspective in itself is whole and closed off to the possibility of having an outside, he simoultaneously also inhabited all other perspectives. It was a paradox in the end. Have you ever experienced anything similar, like holding two perspectives at the same time?

@Carbon ask Bashar about solipsism and how there can be anything outside your direct experience, e.g. other conscious agents, having their own experience. To add context, you could ask, if infinity is having all experiences at once, all superimposed on top of each other, or if infinity is having one experience at a time, such that the eternal now is forever changing like a kaleidoscope, from one experience to another.

AGI by 2030 might not be off the table imo

TLDR: This guy smoked salvia and got transported to live another man's life for 30 years. At the end of his alternate life, he eventually found a box with a pipe and some salvia left. Upon smoking the salvia, he woke back up in his current life as a 19 year old.

They are indeed natural phenomena, and I would like to propose the view, that they can be indeed understood. Tom Campbell, in his trology 'My big Theory of Everything' (see here), lays out a framework for how this local consciousness system, that we inhabit, works, and how phenomena, such as remote viewing, astral travel and telepathy are a natural byproduct of the structure of such a consciousness system. It also teaches you, how you can make use of these techniques, so that you as consciousness, can navigate the larger system for yourself, and discover how it works, and come to your own conclusions. It basically boils down to everything being Consciousness, as in one interconnected, conscious system, where you, as a piece of that larger consciousness system, can access all information that are available to such a system.

How do you explain remote viewing then? People to this day produce consistent, reliable results in remote viewing experiments, that cannot be explained away by pure chance or coincidence.

Just because you gain understanding into how the reality system operates, doesn't mean you automatically gain access to make changes or manipulate the rule set. You could play World of Warcraft, and have a second monitor running, which shows you the game engine code in some programming language. But unless you have full developer access, you are not allowed to make any changes to the system.

Designed by you as Consciousness, for you as consciousness to experience yourself as a human life.

Always remain sceptical, but open-minded

Because enlightenment is but a +1 on your skill tree, giving you a little more access to all psychic abilities, besides total clarity on what you are. This game has not been programmed for your avatar to walk through walls, but rather serves as a training ground for you as consciousness to become more love. If you could access these higher order functions, you would have no business coming here as a human avatar anymore, but instead serve more complex/higher tier functions as an evolved consciousness.

All that wall really is, is your human avatars sensory data stream congealed/rendered into the experience of 'wall'. There really is no wall, because there is no external, physical reality that you inhabit, in the same way that there is no real wall in a computer game. For you to walk within your sensory data stream through the appearance of a wall, you would have to have access (higher level of consciousness) to the operating system, as if enabling the 'no clip' mod for your consciousness in this reality game. And the only way any consciousness gets access to higher order functions, is by cooperating with the larger consciousness system, by becoming more loving and selfless and serving others to become more love. The more selfless you become, the better you become in your ability to change the probability distributions of the things that are rendered in this reality game, by using your intent. But see, if you become so selfless, you will not care about any of those 'magic tricks' anymore, as they would probably come from a place of selfishness, to manipulate your way through this reality game. A fully selfless consciousness will be able access these higher functions, and walk over water, or change water to wine, but do so out of service to a greater goal, and in the end still die selflessly at the cross, without the need to manipulate it's way out of it.

It depends. If all one is interested in, is to come to an ultimate conclusion, than I guess all you need to know is that reality is infinite. On the other hand, if you are also about understanding your local subsystem, a world view (such as Martins or Artems) that proposes that this reality cluster we inhabit is as all there is (as in this material/energy plane), is actually limiting to ones worldview/perspective. There are countless material and non material reality clusters in Consciousness, that can be accessed by you as consciousness. Saying that phenomena, such as astral travel, are figments of the human mind, will limit you in your ability to understand the greater reality system around you, and consequently make these tools less effective for you, as you will believe, that you are stuck in this one energetic/physical plane of existence, and all occurrences, like going somewhere beyond via shifting reality streams, is but a figment of your human imagination.

Yes, Martin is all aboard the God train, but for him (see his book 'Being Human') God is infinite energy manifesting out of a Singularity into this (physical) reality. You could say he is not a materialist but an energy-ist. Beyond this energetic, (seemingly physical when collapsed into form) infinite reality there is nothing for him. Non-physical, like astral travel to other dimensions, or dreams, creates a distinction for him that is not grounded in this energetic reality, but is no more than your (human) minds capacity for imagination. He emphasizes these phenomena having no inherent reality onto themselves, while this energetic reality, that displays as our material plane, for him is foundational/absolute.

If God can imagine conscious human agents, operating in a limited materialistic dream, why couldn't he imagine Alien agents, operating in their own alien playingfield? Heck, why couldn't he imagine being the playingfield itself, like being a reality engine server itself, that runs whole worlds/dreams? You say God is an infinite runaway ocean of dreams. No one controls it. But why couldn't it have holons within holons, subsystems within subsystems, that act as operating/governing priciples for parts of itself? Yes, in the absolute sense its infinite runaway all the way, but that doesn't prevent it to have structures within structures that are governing one another.

The main point is not that Martin is a materialist, but that for him, this very reality we are experiencing (whatever it is made of), is the only thing that is absolutely real. He discards all phenomena, such as astral travel and other non-physical realities, that are not within the same playing field as this reality we are experiencing, as fabrications of the (human) mind.

Yes, in reference to the Absolute/Nothingness, no appearing realm has an inherent reality onto itself. But in the context people like Artem and Martin use this distinction, they mean to say that only the material/energetic material plane we are experiencing is absolutely real, while phenomena like dreaming, astral travel, and non physical realities are fabrications of the brain/human mind. That is the great error they make, that stems from their world view (despite having had deep realizations about their true nature).

@Water by the River They will not just use different language. Their worldview and belief system will be baked into their meta perspective on what reality is and how it works, and through that perspective, their enlightenment will be additionally interpreted. If you read Artem closely, it is obvious to the trained eye, that he gets all the 'qualities/fundamentals' of full enlightenment right, basically collapsing all identification mechanisms, until there is only the totality of existence left. But then he fuses that with his worldview, of being a body within an infinite, material/energy universe. For Artem, that body (his body) is itself part of everything else, there are technically no boundaries between any matter/energy objects. He is within that universe and from it/part of it. No governing principles acting from outside on that universe, that kind of universe is governing itself from within, it is deterministic, because it has to build on itself in an infinite regress of causalities. That is very different to a worldview, in which you, as Infinite Consciousness, operate as a larger system, with many subsystems (holons within holons) and conscious agents (that you as the larger Consciousness have divided yourself into), that can interact with these sub-systems. In that paradigm, you would have one part of consciousness run a reality simulation (e.g. a physical or non-physical reality frame/dream) like a server, to which part of your conscious agents could log on, by receiving data/information streams. The conscious agent (basically a piece of the larger consciousness) is obviously not going anywhere from A to B, it's already floating nowhere, no when, always here now, receiving (in the case of a human being avatar) sense data of smell, touch, hearing, sight, touch, that is creating a 3D world (like Earth). Collapsing that sense data (like you can in deep meditation), would again reveal your true nature, as pure awarness floating in/as the infinte void. So you can actually field test that theorie. That's why there is also no world beyond your sensory bubble, there really is no external material world, there is only 10 billion consciousnesses, floating in the void, receiving (human) sense data streams of what is rendered into our current earth experience. Bashar also confirms this perspective, by saying that you are not in this world, because you have never left spirit ( the non-physical). Instead you operate from spirit, being tuned into this holographic (seemingly material) universe/simulation. What appears as physical reality is in fact non-physical reality, with the difference, that the rule set is much more strict in this dream, and you for example, cannot fly through walls. The rule set is obviously not upheld by you, the consciousness that is logged on to the 5 senses data stream of the avatar, but by some higher funtion consciousness-algorithm/operating system, which again is not really separate from you. Just you, as a limited unit of consciousness, have not the admin rights to interfere with that operating system (unless you maybe take enough 5meo-dmt and get a glimpse, how part of your higher order functioning consciousness is creating this simulation/dream). While logged on to the 5 senses data stream of the avatar, you can only play by the rules of the server, and play within this material plane, until maybe one day, you become your own whole universe/server, if you as consciousness have evolved enough. Bashar also supports that view, that you as consciousness are always becoming more of yourself, that that is the whole point of existence. It's not static, it's always becoming ever more. So again, from this worldview, you are in this world (by receiving 5 senses data stream of the avatar) but you are not of it. Big difference! That way, dreams, Astral travel, different reality frames are not just figments of the bodies mind function (like they have to be, in Artems materialistic world view), but they are legitimate/equal playingfields to that of the material plane we are experiencing. All those reality frames are of course just different data streams/imaginations, that you as consciousness can log on to (see also reality shifting). Nothing is ever going anywhere, it's just like changing channels on a TV. The reason I want to emphasize the difference between these two world views, is because it actually takes you away from a reductionistic world view to a more holistic, expanded perspective, that is inherently more meaningful, than what Artem proposes. I would propagate, that giving one a meaningful, holistic perspective, alongside with the tools that will take you to full enlightenment, is far more beneficial for the whole of humanity, than giving guidance to an enlightenment, that is baked into a reductionistic, nihilistic world view. The first one will get you excited, the second one will make you feel depressed along the way. On a side note, Chris Bache, in his book 'LSD and the Mind of the Universe', has given by far the most splendid, beautiful, wholesome and awe inspiring worldview to where we, as a collective human organism/consciousness, are navigating towards. I had tears in my eyes reading his description of the potential, that we, as a human race, have. That's the true power of having a great vision and a meta view, that aims to allign itself with the highest/most wholesome understanding of reality.

yes, but that does not address the issue about this physical reality being all there is vs. having physical and non-physical realities which you can navigate between. For example, in Tom Campbell's view, you have Consciousness creating this dream, with a certain fixed rule set, for you as a piece of that larger consciousness, having the possibility to log on to a dream character in the dream and experiencing it. This also means, that as that piece/unit of consciousness (that you temporarily limit yourself to), you can shift from that dream/reality frame to another, e.g. Astral travel. In a sense, every dreamworld is 'non-physical' (because it's made out of Consciousness), the only difference between physical and non-physical dreamworlds is how tight the governing rule set is. On the other hand, from Martins perspective, this physical matter / energy universe, is all that there is. He leaves no space, that you, as consciousness, can switch between different dreamworlds/reality frames. From his perspective, anything that is not happening on this physical plane (like having out of body experiences into other, non-physical dreamworlds/reality frames) is just a fabrication of the mind, and has no reality onto itself. So my main question would be, if you hold the view, that this physical/energy matter dream is all there is, or if you side Tom, by looking at it in a way, that the larger Consciousness system is simulating these dream realities, for pieces of itself to log on to, like logging on to a multi player game (but from a 'place' that is itself 'outside' the game).

But Martin clearly limits God to being infinite energy, which leaves you with material/energy reality as the only place to be so to speak, leaving out the possibility for any non-physical reality. Is that also how you look at it?

@Leo Gura What do you make of Martin W. Ball descriptions in his book 'Being Human' (after he's having had so many realizations on 5meo), claiming that God is a Being, perfectly self-aware, existing as energy, and as that energy, taking all forms. He also describes that, in the way God as energy takes form, God is mathematical. It seems like another reductionistic world view falling into the 'material/energy reality only' paradigm, which dismisses the non-physical (e.g. astral travel, non-physical realities)

@Water by the River although going from his descriptions, Artem seems to have clearly transcended all self arisings, in his meta view on reality, he does hold the perspective, that the physical universe is all that there is, as an indivisible play of matter and energy. In his view, Astral travel and non physical life beyond death of the physical body, are imaginations of the mind, and consequently, can be transcended and seen through as illusions (see screenshots of his exact wordings attached). How do you look at this perspective and how do you bring it together with perspectives of Jürgen Ziewe or Tom Cambell's 'Larger Consciousness System'? It seems to me that Artem interprets his enlightenment in a way, that gives rise to a matter/energy reality only, beyond which nothing else exists (such as non physical existence as consciousness) Btw, may I ask if you do experience dreaming?

The map he lays out and his description of the enlightenment process is on par with what waterbytheriver writes and also comparable to the writing of individuals, who fully abide in the Absolute, such as Bernadette Roberts, for example. The main difference is the language all of them use, so it comes down to stylistic preference, which of those three you resonate most with. Here's a good summarizing video of his work

@Water by the River It's interesting that you bring up Artem. I'll post below one of his main thesis on levels of enlightenment. Can you elaborate where your and his views are the same and where they differ? It's especially confusing that Artem claims that even consciousness/infinity are still levels of dreaming and not the final enlightenment, while you point to 'empty pure impersonal infinite consciousness' as the final abode in the process of enlightenment. From Artem's Quora post: https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-levels-of-enlightenment/answer/Artem-Boytsov "There are no levels of enlightenment, but there are levels of dreaming, and every level has its own layer of bondage, which you progressively shed as you move towards the center: On the outer level of dreaming, you are a person in the body, looking outside of the body into the physical world and relating to other persons. You are a slave of society. On a deeper level of dreaming, you are a soul occupying the body and you relate to other souls on an energetic level. You are a slave of your emotional energy. On a deeper still level of dreaming, you are consciousness/God, a being of pure compassion and unconditional love, you are everything and everyone, the deepest form of love. You are a slave of love. On the deepest level of dreaming, you are Brahman, the totality of all existence, infinity beyond manifest, you are truly nothing, eternity, the deepest form of peace. You are a slave of death. When all dreaming ceases, you are just a hairless monkey walking on a ball of rock, eating, pooping, living and not imagining things that are not there. You are now free. Each level of the dream has its own amount of fun and beauty, and very few people go all the way, because each level is covered by its own layer of suffering. Embodiment of unconditional love is extremely fun and very rewarding. Being mentally dead while your body is alive is very peaceful, very restful, very blissful, that’s Buddhahood. When you’re dreaming on the outer layers, the inner layers are there, too, they’re just in your unconscious. As you go from the outer layers towards the center, the dreaming becomes more and more subtle, you become progressively more free. The last level, the Brahmanic level, is the most subtle. It’s almost no dreaming at all. Most people who are awake have awakened from one level of dreaming into a deeper level of dreaming. So their dreaming became a little bit more lucid. “It’s all a dream” as they say. Enlightenment is not awakening into your dream, it is awakening from your dream, entirely. It’s when all dreaming ceases and the mind doesn’t dream anymore."