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Man everything Alan Watts spoke was gold.

It's sort of irrelevant; what we have is stories of Jesus. Certainly at least some of them are embellished or morphed over the years. Whether he was real or not, we have today an archetype that is in a way more real than a biographical entity. Same goes with the Buddha and so on.

I don't understand why it's horrifying that your pet would eat you when you die? What were you planning on doing with your body after your lights are out? If I had a pet that I loved and I died, and that animal needed my flesh to survive, I hope it would eat my dead body. Tuck in little friend!

I mean the timing for when the steep acceleration phase approaching breakthrough happens. It's not a fully predictable, causative thing because it interplays so much with mental factors, and physical factors complicate it too. I remember being very surprised with it happened around the 1hr mark during one session, because I hadn't taken it too many times at that point, and had read that it should peak around 1/2hr, and be going back down to baseline by 1hr. I remember taking a peek at the clock around 45min and feeling pretty ok with "well that was interesting, but it didn't really go off". I think dropping my expectations had something to do with setting the mental stage. OTOH it's very possible that it was purely down to physical causes. Something could have been going on in my nasal passages that caused the absorption to be slowed, maybe I was stuffed up, or dry and the 5-MeO-DMT had collected into a dry ball that didn't absorb properly for a while. Psychedelics are highly variable and dependent on so many factors. My point in mentioning this is don't expect clockwork, because it's not.

@Leo Gura I didn't watch the whole thing, so I didn't get to the bit about quantum mechanics. His talk of vibrations and energy and crystals was what I was talking about. Some of that was meaningless and hand-wavy, some of it was just factually incorrect. I get that not everyone has to nail the details perfectly, but it's a small lie to present a shaky understanding as fact. I'd give him more credence if he used qualifiers and made it clear that he speaks figuratively to illustrate a deeper truth. When someone talks like that, I wonder what else he's hand-waving around that he doesn't actually have direct experience or knowledge with. But again, I think a lot of the times guys like this are right, but for the wrong reasons. There are definitely bigger problems in the world anyways lol

This guy speaks as fact all kinds of things that range on the spectrum from pure speculation to utter bullshit, and he co-opts physics terminology to give his new-age ideas the appearance of credibility. Yet I think he does have some really valid points and insights. Sometimes people are right for the wrong reasons.

Well, @OBEler, that's entirely up to you. For me, my life is exactly the same as it was before, but with a subtle but profoundly different core understanding of reality. The game itself hasn't changed one bit. And most of the time I'm so swept up in the game anyways that I don't even pay any attention at all to the deeper truth of reality. Actually, the funny thing is that if anything, these experiences reaffirm my earnest participation in the game. This is it, bring it on!

It's not really something to try to describe or explain. I mean I could try to explain what has happened for me, but that would just be feeding you a story that you would compare to, which would distract you from having your own raw experience. Anyways, it would just be words that try to categorize something outside of category anyways, so it would fail and be a joke at best. What I will tell you is that you don't have to be afraid, nothing bad will happen! You can go for it

Here's my technique: Before sniffing it I set up a "launch pad" on the ground where I can lie down and ride the intense part of the trip. I prepare a flat area, with some pillows to support my next shoulders so that my head can tilt back comfortably without straining my neck. This tilt prevents the post-nasal drip, and also I find that the posture "opens up" my chest/heart which is conducive to the letting go/opening up experience of 5-MeO-DMT. I make sure there is a blanket ready in case I get jittery, and a cloth in case I want to cover my eyes. I make sure the lights are low, and that the house is calm and quiet. Next step is to clear out the nasal passages if I'm at all stuffy or dry. Blow my nose, sniff some water and blow it out. Neti-pot would probably be a good idea, but I've never tried that. I then prep the 5-MeO-DMT by first carefully weighing out my dose, and then chop it up with a razor blade until it's an ultra fine powder. My product is a bit grainy, like little grains of sand, so it needs to be made more fine to make it easy to snort and absorb. So I chop chop chop for quite a long time until it's a uniformly fine powder, like icing sugar or baby powder. Then I cut it into 2 rails, and use a straw (use a 1/2 or 1/3 cut section of a plastic straw) to very carefully sniff the powder into my nasal passages. This is the trickiest part that take a little practice to get just right. You want to place the straw at the back of your nose so that you bypass the part that boogers collect in, you're trying to get it into your mucous membranes in your nasal passages. But you can't sniff it too hard or it gets way in the back and then it can drip out the back. So you sniff *just barely* hard enough to get it in there, no harder. Your nasal passages are a shockingly huge cavity in your head so there's actually quite a bit of room for the powder in there, but it's easy to over-sniff. One rail up each nostril. At that point, I retire to the "launch pad" and calmly await the effects, with my head tilted back to prevent that post-nasal drip. Avoid the temptation to snort and swallow because that will just cause the 5-MeO-DMT to go down into your stomach where it will be pretty much inert. I just lie there in this modified shivasana, meditating. The 5-MeO-DMT can sting or burn a little bit. I don't find it too bad personally, but I can see why it's a turn off for a lot of people. I find it gets pretty irrelevant once the experience develops, but it's possible that it is making a more challenging backdrop for the whole thing. Usually some time in (the timing of this varies greatly - I've had it happen I think 10mins in, and 1hr in) I find my heart will start racing and a very powerful thrilling feeling occurs, which could be interpreted as fear. Release into this, allow it to develop and go where it will. I'll stop here because I don't want to condition your experience, but my main piece of advice is that when that heart race and thrill comes on, that's part of the ride. Try to allow and accept it whole-heartedly the way you might accept and embrace a wave if you've ever surfed, or decide to fully go with the flow when you take a jump on your bike, or open up to your crush. Go deep, find the bottom of the experience, without resistance. Let. That's my method in a nutshell. One note is that I don't find the burn gets worse from 10mg up to 22mg, it just burns the same. Maybe at 22mg it burns almost less because the experience is so much more powerful, it makes you forget there is any burning sensation going on. I'm very curious about using water as a solvent and buffering the solution like you describe @Tarzan, I haven't tried that. I think going up to 15mg is a good next step. Keep us posted here.

Why do you massage it into your nose Leo? It shouldn't really be going into the part of your nose that you'd be able to massage, it should be all be way in the back, behind the nose-bones, where your mucous membranes are.

@OBEler someone needs to meme-ify that and put it in the psychedelic jokes/memes thread... not sure what the caption would say but there's definitely a good joke in there

This is a great resource. This is very good advice, take heed!

I haven't tried it, so I'm not going to completely discount it, but I'm skeptical. LSD has extremely high bioavailability compared to other psychedelics (70% + per oral) so it doesn't make sense that intensity would double plugged. Plus, the vascularity of the rectum is not so much different from sublabial, so I really can't see any advantage of putting it in your bum over tucking it in under your lip - if not just swallowing it (as long as your stomach is fairly empty). It makes sense to plug a drug when it isn't orally bioavailable and other ROAs aren't desirable. So 5-MeO-DMT is a great candidate for plugging. But LSD is one of the most absorbable, easy to administer ones out there, so I don't think I'll bother plugging it anytime soon. I usually tuck it under my top lip so the side a bit and leave it there until I'm well tripping, and then swallow. It usually hits in 20mins. I expect bioavailability this ROA is slightly higher than oral (swallowed immediately). Duration is much longer than 4hrs - depending how you look at it 8-12hrs. When you say 4hr duration, do you mean you feel you're fully back to baseline, or down from the peak? Anyone else have LSD plugging experience to share?

Theres no good reason to plug lsd, I wouldn't bother with that. Sublingual/gum or just swallow it. Plugging it won't shorten it to 4h.

@Leo Gura I totally agree

Do you think that revolution isn't the right way to go? I tend to agree with this position, revolution in the violent sense rarely turns out well. I think incremental steps are the way to go, revolution just invites power vacuums and even worse abuses of power tend to fill them. But sometimes I do think it's good to keep the oligarchy in check by rattling the guillotines and pitchforks. @Annoynymous personally I don't think a world war (in the traditional sense of war) is coming. I think the battle field of the 21st century is our minds, our economies, and the digital space. Blatant military world wars are too distasteful, obliterating, and expensive for the modern age.

I don't see any red flags, but of course you have to make your own decisions and you shouldn't take someone's word on the internet over your own gut feelings. If you have a good relationship with your friends, you have set aside a safe time and space for your trip, and a known dosage from a known and trusted source, I think you are well set up to have a great first trip and I wish you the best!

@Annoynymous it's good to balance his perspective with a different and much more optimistic outlook. You could check out Steven Pinker. He points out that we are extremely lucky to be living in the golden age of humanity. Never have so few people died from murder, war, disease, malnutrition. We have the longest lifespans of any humans in history, human rights and freedoms are at an all time high. Access to information and entertainment has never been better. We enjoy the greatest health of any of our ancestors, the greatest rights of sexual expression, gender equality, racial equality - and of course we can see that we also have so far to go with all of these things. It could be so, so much better. And the same time, we really do stand to loose it all, or stagnate. Which is where Chris Hedges comes in. We didn't get human rights by being sitting around and being nice, it's because people fought hard for things like the right for women to vote, workers rights, the end of tyrannical monarchies, the end of apartheid, colonial control etc etc. If we sit around in complacency, we'll end up in the corporate fascist dystopia that Chris Hedges forsees. Chris Hedges is right, Steven Pinker is right. Whenever I get bummed out listening to a guy like Hedges, I remember how much shittier it was in the past, and how lucky we are to live at this moment in time. I really want it to be even better for my kids.

@Alexop what kinds of mental problems did your dad and grandmother suffer from? Do you have good mental health would you say? How old are you?

Some nuggets from that first video: Ooof.. Pay attention folks. Mhm.

Nice post. I'm a big fan of Chris Hedges. He's extremely cynical, but there's a hope in that cynicism, and a vision for a better world. He's the kind of guy that we all need to listen to in order to make this world a better place. He doesn't whitewash anything, and he has a very clear morality. His book "War is a Force that Gives us Meaning" is a very insightful (and short) read, recommended.

Word.. do it you won't regret it. See my recommendations above ^

Yeah that sounds super sketchy and inaccurate. I'd recommend getting ahold of a consumer grade milligram scale - there are really reasonably priced ones that are accurate down to around 1mg. Well loved, tried-and-true is the American Weigh (har har) GEMINI-20, although I use the American Weigh GPR-20, which is just a little more accurate. Both of them are very very affordable. Make sure you calibrate the scale, and use fresh batteries, it will take the guess work out of your dosing.

No not rare. I definitely have noticed that in reports here and there. Another thing to look at would be how are you measuring your dosages? You might be using a method that makes it seem like you're using a lot more than you actually are. Yeah maybe. Hard to measure. I don't know if pureness is the right word for it, but I think some background in meditation, and some contemplative context helps set the stage at least.

Always commendable to be extra safe when it comes to ingesting psychoactive chemicals! ?