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Great pointer!

Agree, he´s really getting close here!

@mkieblesz Great talk!

Most likely because of that, he´s doing really good. It´s not a guarantee though when starting with heroin

@Shanmugam Thanks for your great contribution to this forum

The essence of you is formless and not an object for observation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ckom3gf57Yw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlMHjo7Jwhk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk5_TuCPtXg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKbiWBUX7n8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60ItHLz5WEA https://youtu.be/HEiSF8HpyDg?t=1m12s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnTf70aX2ms

Yes, conscious first, than anything is a good activity. I agree, running and swimming can be very meditative.

@completegraph More preparation before with meditation/relaxation and lower doses seems to solve the problem for me.

Yes I have, I find a very fine line from breaking through and breaking through with a "white out".

That’s for you to consider. That needs to be inquired into. See for yourself. Not very rational to dismiss somthing before you even understand it. This is a defense and result of the self. One does this when there memory, knowledge, and personal experience that has built there self image is challenged. They depend on that ‘knowing’ that gives them a sense of security psychologically. If anohter comes and questions there methods, techniques, and systems they feel as if they are being personaly attacked. Some people just don’t want to face what is. Where there is fear there is resistance??‍♂️ Go about thought/self dialectically. Or don’t. It’s your life lol I´m not dismissing anything and I understand what you are saying, I really do, just want you to be aware of the problems that occur using the terminology your using. Peace and love.

Then by definition this advice is useless.

True

@Faceless Are you trying to say that you don´t need a chemical to get liberated and that there are other more effective methods? Or - you don´t need any methods at all because no-one needs to be liberated? I doubt that your intention was to start a philosophical discussion about time.

No! I want to wake up

You can not describe the nature of the mystery of reality, that is right, but you can know it yourself, and formulate words that can be used as pointers to others who can discover for themselves, in themselves.

This is the question of questions, The Buddha himself could´nt explain it, how the hell could we?

@Ether You exists like a wave in the ocean, a temporarily appearance of the ocean. Your identity is the ocean not the wave.

@Ether Here´s a profound quote on this subject from @Shanmugam from another thread.

If you are aware, there are no problems what so ever, the problem is that there is a lot of "classic-low-conscious-activities" that just keep pulling people down to new levels of unconsciousness of course without them knowing about it. The question is - why would you want to watch (for example) the cheapest, saddest produced porn ever made if you are aware? The only answer is - you are not aware.

@Faceless We went a little bit of topic here.

In absolute terms, there never was anything like time to begin with, time doesn't ultimately exists. Only in the relative world (dreamworld if you like) I,m not sure what you mean with "time prevents the timeless", i,d say time is occurring as one dimension of the timeless, as everything else. Not sure we´re on the same page in this discussion. If you look very closely you´ll discover time appears in timelessness, i´d like to say

It has two dimensions, in a sense you can say that you move from time to timelessness but there is really no distance to it. When you access the timeless state it uncovers the fact that this was your essence all along and time is only relatively real. So you can live grounded in the timeless and still take action in time. Thats the biggest paradox there is. Time is dreamlike. It has it´s reality but the essence of you and everything there is, is timeless. Well, you only need time until you realise you don´t need time anymore Yes that´s how I like to look at it, inviting time as means to that which is timeless. Time and literally everything that exists is born out of timelessness/nothingness and it permeates everything by being it´s essence. Not becoming free of time means you are stucked, in time, things, personas, there is a way out of that, if one don´t realise this under his lifetime he will get out of time when he dies. Time is a contraction of energy.

This chemical is a sharp tool for that work but the chemical doesn't do it, it guides you towards that place by taking away things from you until there is nothing left, speeds up the process. You still have to do the work and foundation yourself, without the right foundation, 5 meo is totally useless. Thinking just 5 meo itself is the answer is like thinking you can drive a formel1 car just because you have the best car.