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jeniik replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
As everything is God, everything is made out of consciousness, everything is conscious. That "you" does not care about some part of yourself, "you" thinks it made it or "you" identifies with it does not mean that that part is any lesser in any sense or any less conscious than "you". I had experiences when "me" was doing it's things without my daily sense/level of participation - and I am counting in heavy intoxication by alcohol, using psychedelics and being "highly" conscious without any substance - where what I'd call my body -observed as some kind of hazy visual without sense of space- was doing it's own thing while "me" fading in and out of illusion of making it do that stuff while percieving it all happening. As "I" noticed this happening the body started talking about having that experience of not being itself/me. Now I'm confused to the point I do not know who is confused. I'd say there's a strange-loopy scale of being conscious - going from being the thing itself, being self-conscious, being conscious of all there is and from that place you might feel confident enough again to just be the thing itself and round and round, hashtag infinity. I guess we should establish which point of view/part of reality is this judgement of "being conscious" made from - as these would vary a lot. God would say we're nowhere close to being conscious. Your PC might have desire to be as conscious as you - if we project that onto it. Based on position on that loop scale it might be same "distance" to god consciousness as "I" - just not in the direction we prefer to look. A And we should also consider if "I" is not the only "not-conscious" part of God as it's thinkingness about the matter might suggest. "There without location" is observer without name, shape, feeling or quality and observes "I" which tries to figure it all out. Excuse the level of confusion and uncosciousness at this side of the present moment. @Someone here Thank you for this super awesome awereness/consciousness excercise! -
jeniik replied to Hen Zuhe's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
And last thing - what contemplation of Dr. Hawkins work brought to me is that the calibration is a pointer to where the person is at - just like in spiral dynamics. That it is an indication of overall relationship of the person towards life - in lower states as being in mercy of a forces and things outside of him and therefore scared and incapacitated - higher himself getting knowledge and feeling neutral towards mechanistic world - further seeing he does not know so much and accepting it while feeling even better - developing faith - further surrendering his efforts to Something bigger that him - further recognizing that which is labeled God - further recognizing himself as manifestation of Divinity - through the Void - to being All there is...you know the drill. -
jeniik replied to Hen Zuhe's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
For the question of love and loving. I'd say you do it all the time but it has only one factors - what are your labels of what love is. When in state of love (very obvious and palpable on MDMA for me) - there is not that second layer of my judgement and concern for what I do/say/feel - there is a understanding without the need of reason and proof - there is a trust without the need of reason and proof - your heart feels warm - you have urge to share, support, love, talk intimately, listen - all of that just because you want the same feeling for others "we" submerged in "egos" might get there - by taking MDMA - by undoing our egos via spiritual principles and techniques. -by simply practising love => watch, study, care for something/someone. Invest that time into it, let go of judgement about it. You'll slowly move through all emotions all the way towards feeling of love. (you might see that it evolves as on Dr. Hawkins scale o emotions...) As a bonus compare watching something you like and something you do not. Compare what your mind does while watching both and compare. Tryto see how did you feel about the thing before you loved it - that the love was not there yet. (((Because it is you who "does" love/undoes ego - which are the same things))) You might notice that when you stop your judgement and just watch - you learn about the thing quite a lot aaaand you will slowly fall in love with it (if your ego does not step in (in form of judging it)). -
jeniik replied to Hen Zuhe's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Hey there, what I got from his books is that his intention was for humans to have some kind of tool to diferentiate between truth and falsehood. What I also understood from the book is that kinesiology depends a lot on who asks, why he asks, his attitude about the topic etc. So it is highly subjective, so it highly unscientific, so it is...spiritual? I'd say so If I should round it up (quite a lot) - it is that "who" you are what matters the most. Nowhere in the universe is said what makes you holy or spiritual. What matters is what is "inside". Why do you feel the way you feel about kinesiology? How do you feel about that feeling? Do you love it or do you hate it or is it somewhere else on the scale of emotions? Your label on what kinesiology is might be very "off" (which is always subjective) but what would matter is how your realtionship to that which you label "off" means. Do you love yourself even when you see you do not know so much? Do you love yourself when you are angry? Do you love others in all those conditions and emotions? That all would be who you are and that should be what the number points to, wouldn't it? Do you know what bias these people still held and what aspect of them did he hold in mind when asking? I'd say try the tool for yourself, but do not make the intention ofor trying it small. Let that personal gain go and try. Or just try to look at it as a lifetime work of a man who wanted to help all people. How much he gave, inspired, created.. Was that intention spiritual enough to spark that feeling of love inside you? Can you see that as creator would? There might be dustman who loves himself, loves being in service to others and might just be so caring that his love just pours out..invisibly, anonymously..and he might lose himself in that beauty of himself. Sage never known and never calibrated..scoring high. Who cared but him. Are You loving, do You feel it or are you still looking for that reason why there is not enough love for you in it?