Principium Nexus

What would you do? I think it's very useful to do this exercise, knowing or trying to understand how our other half thinks/acts is great to emphasize for each other

Everybody thanks for the tips, I think they will find good use. Today I will fly, so everybody have a nice holiday. I'll back back in 2 weeks

You know guys, sometimes my head really spins of all this thinking ? Does anyone like donuts?

I want to go to Burningman atleast once in my life. So much love, art and a cool alternative society.

@Max_V Those are withdrawl symptoms, if you manage to push yourself further, you will gain greater self-control. I know it is overwhelming, thats the energy you are cultivating. If you learn how to focus/control this then you will really empower yourself. Cut away the neurotic tendencies, show yourself you are in control. It will be rewarding.

@lens Do you understand that everything you think are just theories and concepts. Even that science says there will be a heat death or that the universe will never end is but an idea. The truth is we don't know. You can worry about made up things or you can acknowledge their existence, look what is useful and everything that makes your life worse you let it pass. Don't become to caught up in these things, I clearly see that's where you should mainly focus on. Practice meditation to calm the mind, let these assumption fade for a while and just feel what it is to be alive! Breath, feel the cold/warmth, be present.

@Max_V I think keeping a break of 7-10 days should be sufficient, but going for longer periods can be much more challenging and therefor you will learn more.

@Joseph Maynor Yes they dont care, they just feel and go with the flow.

@Spiral Was this message for me or somebody else? I practice nofap time to time and see clear results, but I cannot imagine to do it for a very long period (more than a month). If you have no partner then okay, but in a relationship?

@ajasatya And main goal is to hold focus for sustained period and learn how to control this?

@ajasatya Eveybody will figure it out when it is their time. In the end we cannot help anybody but ourselves, I hope he doesn't hold to tight onto his believes because thats the largest trap of them all. Btw do you know any good reads about zen practice? I'm becoming more interested in it and would like to read something about it.

@Dodo I enjoy all the traps as much as the epiphany I was completely wrong I think we can derive some meaning from all this speculation, which is a whole accomplishment on its own. To make something practical from something that does not exist in the first place at all ? Who said magic does not exist?? We are all magicians but fail to see it!

@Dodo Yess you did a good job at explainig and it makes sense. All truth here is relative, but talking about that some absolute truth in turn exist is also relative hahaha. To make it easy, you want truth, then shut up and just be. But wether its true or not, does it matter anyways? As long as we have fun and have a good story to play, nobody cares if the play was real or not. In the end we all enjoyed it ?

@Dodo I'm not more advanced than you in anyway, maybe i'm more caught up with conceptual theory and therefor walking through my own constructed maze. In the end I think the maze feels rigid, it all seems logical within it's framework, but once you get outside you see that the only thing holding these walls up was the fact you was your own believes. They were all grounded in nothing, a bubble floating on its own. Comfortable, manageable, but far from the truth. The whole vastness of infinity can never be confined to a finite form. That's where you @Dodo, transcend the maze and watch other people walk around from the inside. You know everything is grounded in nothing, so you begin to see theory/philosophy is just another level of the maze. Then the idea of being finally outside of the maze is again another layed. Until @Dodo fades away and he is set 'free'. I like to refer to the maze as your own house. You can decorate it to your own liking and enjoy how you build/transform it as long as you live. Sometimes there is a earthquake, psychedelics or some life-changing event that turn it upside down. All the items have to be placed accordingly again, some are broken and have become obsolete. What is important is that we understand that we live inside that house, the house is our identity and comfort. Outside there is the unknown, excitement/fear because we are not in control there. The control we have over our house is also eventually an illusion since everything can change any moment. But for the time being, lets enjoy that house, until we move to the next one somewhere after we die. Lets do it conciously, understand we are our own creator and aim to build to most epic house or the most humble one. Whatever you like, your heart knows the best

@Dodo Lets assume that the non-existence of the I also also but an idea. Everything exists as personal self as it does not. Everything is relative from other perspectives, but the truth which is experienced by the I is absolute. Experience from the self cannot be relative because it is the self that can only experience itself and nothing else. I notice that there seems to be two distinct views. One where everything is reasoned from the no-self/non-duality/non-symbolic truth and the opposite where we view our truths from the personal self/duality/symbolic interpretations (thought,literature, aka things we interpret with a certain meaning). I think both perspectives are equally true because we still live a human life and within this context symbolic things do have meaning, but the value solely depends on you. Whereas the "absolute" non-identity, void, is where it all arises from but we cannot practically build upon this because it is not based on growing the self, its basically the opposite. So I assume that absolutes exist within relativity which are in turn again relative and absolute in their own temporary way. Like finites (concepts) exist in the infinite (void), they go hand in hand to make reality tick. So can't we say both arguments are right. Reality is so paradoxical ?

@Dodo @Loreena But I have to add something guys, we live in a reality where everthing is based on relativity. Without there wouldn't be the appearance of different perspectives, the sense of time and space also rely on this. So holding a claim that everything is relative is in the most fundamental sense correct. All are believes build on top of that therefor reflect this aswell.

@Dodo Leo got a video on Sceptisism about this. Sceptics are even sceptic of their own believes ?. One sentence to rule them all, we know nothing. Maybe John Snow was enlightened after all

What we find here is passion and love for self-discovery, which is the whole thing finding enlightenment works on. To find and to realize love and passion in any story in the now with some sort of logical/rational reasoning behind it. Like you say, there is nothing to know. We all understand that, but beyond that there is this fascinating but paradoxical world of wonder and awe. We will never understand it, but attain to know it. Any perspective is valid, even total rejection of self-actualization, just follow your heart and you will be where you have to be. We are all but poets of a narrative we write together, the most epic one that will ever exist.

@eskwire Is celibacy still working out for you?

Seeing infinite finites, would that be an enlightened ego? Confined but limitless.

From all language out there, mathematics seems to be the most amazing and complex. Is it a transcendental language where everybody seems to come to the same conclusion and is therefor the most objective in describing reality? What do you think math is? Does it exist out there in nature? Do you think math should be able to describe all phenomena that exist or will happen? What is number and why are there numbers beyond the positive natural numbers (e.g. fractions/negative/irrational)? Are math and geometry one? If math is able to describe relativistic relations within reality, aka geometry, which is the natural language of nature then it could be said that it is the language of god?

@Ilya You can only change the world by loving the things you do. And if you think a relationship is egoic then you certainly dont do it out of love

@Loreena I agree the other science are equally amazing in trying to describe what it happening, but math seems to be at the fundamental root to do objective predictions in any of these sciences. It is able to deliver concrete value and to me feels the most pragmatic, somehow it seems to be the root of all logic we derive in all those other fields and to me that's very fascinating Whereas mathematics might feel little bit cold the other disciplines give meaning to what is found regarding to the context where they operate in. It's nice to see how this relation is the basis of all science.

I think this thread does still somewhat apply to Leo's series on Infinity and his way he tries to explain relativity. Sorry for the bump