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@kieranperez I am sure I get what is meant with projecting even on a physical level and energetic / attraction level. For instance when I feel into this pain in the solar plexus or breath I instantly get goose bumps over my whole body. Sometimes events occure where I think, jup that was definitely the old me attracting that stuff. (on whatever level) Yes for me it is the same it felt very difficult to create these feelings and they still do, the easiest thing I found is excitment that is even an advicr given in a course about learning. To reinterpret fear as excitment, kinda let's you feel like a compeptitve psychopath or rather a crazy creative student during exams. Still, this is what I just noticed now I also did on the cushion. So, dunno if that "insight" could bear any fruits. So, yes the feeling is tainted/touched/sullied by these samskaras constantly, they influence thinking, feeling and behaviour that is somewhat fk'd part about it. My release was ultra spontaneous, even LSD did not make me feel this spot so intensly, even when I also cried during an LSD experience heavily. I heard a sound during the retreat snap there it goes. Happend two times out of my own incapability (this was the thought behind it) of taking care of my mother properly and most likely the "imprinted" madness of it all that runs as a script inside my skull, often. At least these were my thoughts. Considering yoga thanks for the information! I have not looked deeply into it, yet I assumed that it goes deeper, since they use chakras as their system. Hope this will be fun. Especially the yoga life style and feelings inside th body. Also, yes I talk a lot about Shinzen. He mentions that feelings is the biggest unconsciousness factor, from these three things. Sound, image, feeling. So, I was triggered by sound. Not sure what happens by image or feeling. Sound is the "shallowest" then image then feel in consideration of their unconscious depth. I hope my text is readable or cohesive enough. CBT definitely helps with limiting beliefs and attracting/being triggered by these circumstance. For instance feeling unworthy or questioning my "loveabillity" or my tendency to blame and taking on responsibility. All of this changed I can understand that you want to skip this part, I would not dismiss it, and work directly on a deeper and more profound lvl on it. I can tell after the release I am less triggered about stuff that is about my persona/ego-self or simply me. Also, shadow work helps me not to project onto others very much, people love to do this with me for what ever reason. (i could come up with a few), somehow I am less aware of these subtle projections, and definitely less affected. Most likely people stop projecting potentially since I am actually embodying the behaviour denied. Or I am just less triggered. I stayed with some basic self-help stuff since this is what I could utilize with the ressources presented here. Some of this stuff is quite insane that it is free. When I see a psychotherapist would offer it and used it in the past

@CreamCat One is enough most likely

@CreamCat Yes, I saw that. The books that are rated high are still on the first page. Also, the book from Leo's booklist.

@kieranperez Yes, this is where shinzens approach shines imo, yet I did not approach any other system fully yet. I tried various techniques. Besides Kriya Yoga, yet I really want to get into Hatha-Yoga for the same reasons as you to open up the body and trauma repressed emotions in the body. Well, I can give you Shinzens perspective it in is most likely the most modern version without much technical jargon in other systems. The feelings inside the body are repressed or not fully experienced emotions called sanskaras in Sanskrit. I mean if you go by language Sanskrit is the language which comes from the Hindu tradition. The word samskara means according to what I can recall grooves or old grooves. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samskara_(Indian_philosophy) Which is old accumulated stuff, that has not been fully processed. I know exactly what you mean when you say that you have trauma in my body, I felt similar a couple of years ago and addressed this place in my solar plexus solely! With mindfulness and acceptance sometimes with a loving-kindness practice. At the beginning, it felt as if it were a hot stab with a knife and a deeply rooted scar, yes also a wounded child in a sense, since I felt my family caused this feeling by blaming a lot. I could dive deeper into it. Yet, I had my first full release (chakra release/cleanse) last retreat over a weekend and I can understand why people go crazy. Yet, it felt so good in the original term it is coined it fully makes sense, that it is a cleansing process aka kriya. I saw my solar-plexus pumping in front of me while I cried. Now, it feels more... inactive and like a stinky speck of oil. Yet it hurts still a lot. Feel flow in Shinzens Paradigm most likely works with "prana" "kundalini" "energy" in the body, yet I can't draw distinctions since I do not know the definitions of prana and kundalini well. Anyway, this is my perspective here shinzen talks about Kriyas. Also, yes I had a full authentic release and even talked with shinzen about it saying that. So, this stuff is definitely possible. But, quite intense more the nut case syndrome afterwards for me... not the experience per se. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9AHh9MvgyQ

@kieranperez yeah shunya sounds solid I watched a couple of videos before, yet found him to be a bit con artist. Sounds great I never tried Yoga rigorously, yet will try it soon more seriously. Shinzen has a technique called feel good, hear good etc. https://www.shinzen.org/nurture-positive/ Not sure if this would be to mind oriented. Yet, this would adress the problems stated. I can't really maintain a 1h feel good pratice, I also want to do it rather via body and yoga. I mean I can, but it is more difficult. I pretty much have the same problems you write about in yohr posts. So, I can relate and empathise a lot lol. Yet, definitely try and do some more cbt, I did it before I bought the LP course through a book via Leo's booklist. It is quite mind boogling with a meditation pratice how recurrent patterns in thought change.

@kieranperez You can try a more rational approach with cbt. (I also tried shinzens approach or a loving kidness approach) I looked into Auto Hypnosis after this video just today and tried it, with a Youtube video of AutoHypnosis. I did not watch the whole Shunymurti video, yet considering Leo's answer this may be a way to advanced way. I like Shinzens approach to this since it is more modern. I'll watch more of Shinyamurti though.

@oMarcos hey, i have similar experiences when lying down to meditate, my body and sensory experience start to relax. While I see a flash of a thinned out version of white light from time to time I also just read in the spiral dynamics book, that this is can happen and is more of a third tier, transrational phenomenon. I personally think it could be a hint to no self, but that is just mere speculation.

@electroBeam May I ask you where you feel this specific feeling of procrastination / adhd in your body? I've read that the solar plexus stores prana on the net, and want to get into Hatha-Yoga relatively soon. For instance I am going with my personal pratice there and if I recall correctly, shinzen also mentions that. You can re-train your nervous system. I especially feel that when I do his technique that this is possible. There are two kinds of nervous systems PNS and SNS. I never dug deep into it besides from a holistic coach on YouTube. Who combines PD with a lot of pratical scientific approaches and unconvential systems from the east. I just notice in daily meditation practice how subtle tensions stirs my behaviour and brain, especially to do and react to certain aspects. https://youtu.be/KlpXGXZ_dT0 (Won't embed the video, here Shinzen talks about the relationship of the brain with the body, in a bit more detail, hence the title) Especially, by going with intuition here or hunches, my compulsivness and "neurotic" tendencies have been greatly reduced by my meditation pratice. Also, work outs and more healthy foods, feels like it's retraining my nervous system. But the process is so slow. Any thoughts similar to this?

@RichardY I did not know that India was divided only that britian occupied the country. I just checked wiki. Reading about the partition. It's insane reading about these movements. I'll get the book back and re-read lol.

@RichardY I don't know exactly what he did. Yet, this was what I wanted to know from you and asked. I lent the book to a friend, so I can't re-read it. Yes, this is how propaganda works. When the sun shines brighter it will increase global warming. - > Said a "populist" politician.

Well, tit for tat. Apparently a red/blue enviroment where it is neccessary to do that in order to maintain order?

@RichardY Why what else did he do, that he could be called a sociopath? Mao ze dong is the only other leader I read something about and Lenin/Stalin I only went to an exhibition, where they showed different political groups from 1800-1900, showing anarchist groups and bolschewists etc. Also, seeing propaganda videos of russian military killing their own people.

I read a biography some time ago, presenting ghandi in a bright light. His protests, him being in south africa, working as a news reporter in inda iirc, almost beaten to death, because of his believe in his vision/resolve/grand scheme etc. Yet, all the stuff ken wilber talls about makes sense when reading history and critque of famous saints/sages/mystics/visonaries w/e. I heard Elon Musk does cocain at bruning man ?‍♂️, not sure if true. This article looks good about ghandis sex live and experiements of "celibacy" https://www.google.de/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/features/thrill-of-the-chaste-the-truth-about-gandhis-sex-life-1937411.html%3famp

A small list of metaphysical post survival / non-survival ideas. Accessing state-stages Accessing subtle,causal,non-dual realms Cleaning chakras (Cultivating a mind-body relationship) Not informing oneself about post survival stuff Accepting reincarnation theories (nirvana/samsara) Accepting content of dreams Considering sidhis Pursuing enlightenment Neglecting enlightenment Jhanas or states of high concentration/forms of absorptions IIRC Psychedelics

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@electroBeam Partially it is a survival mechanism. For instance an ape or human who shares ressources is compassionate in that sense that he shares ressources, also since he or she is providing value. The group admires or rely on the gratitude and compassion of that a ape or human. Franz de Wall has a ted talk explaining that an "alpha" male rises in his rank, thanks to his compassion as long as it is balanced. Since he shares ressources and the trait involves for instance an act of generosity. In the case of someone dying, potentially to deal with the feeling or experience, of something or someone passing away. It is good most likely to release that emotion.

I wanted to ask especially the people who do yoga or kriya yoga. How do you deal with kriya experiences and releasings of them? Or releasing of blocked energies and chakras? Can you fully release a chakra and how does that impact life quality and the feeling of the particular chakra? I listened to a couple of explanations on how to deal with them, yet this feeling is incredbliy present. For instance I sometimes have to deal with pain, when sitting down to meditate near the area of my pelvis, because of a large scar there. Also, while walking and doing sports for a longer time. Even though I can attenuate/alleviate the pain with some "scar roller". When I feel this pain or there or in generel, where I feel blocked energy in my solar plexus. I feel this pain shooting upwards towards my brain, at specific areas. Now, this is the same kind of pain and frustration I feel when studying, failing, being weak or trying to be assertive. I have been mindful of this pain, since day one of starting to meditate. After the new video and working with the LP and CBT exercises, I know that most of the cognitive internal negativ self-talk is gone. Sure, there is some negative thinking. Yet, the point I am trying to make is this feeling or blocked chakra / pain or sanskara hindered me from become better at surviving by the day to day demand imposed by society and my standards. I know now that these feelings at least in a Vipassana traditions are called sanskaras or smth. similar. Which stands for grooves or for me similar to old roots, or just pain. Now, often I experience these feelings intensly for a month or two weeks, then they are gone for the same duration approx. The pattern differs although. Eckhart Tolle calls this pain body imo, I am just curious for those praticing yoga and potentially having similar feelings at the same spot. Did a full release and permanent change of the chakra or blockage felt ever occur? I will definitely work on my relationship to pain in the context towards survival conceptually. Yet, practically I attend this feeling almost every meditation session.

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It is possible a lot of reputable sources claim that. If not see the world fastest reader.

@andyjohnsonman Yes, so far reviewing intentions could be good and seeing if they unfold when you journal about them or go through life. Yes, journaling and contemplating the "nature" of the experience or it's potential meaning and insights which have been unraveled. If you are into shadow work, I'd recommend doing a shadow work exercise. I only practice one technique, so I can't give an expert opinion Also, daily meditation practice or exchanging the experience with a friend common sense or prudence is key, yet definitely daily meditation. Or share them even here on the forum to get feedback and give other people the opportunity to integrate theirs, potentially. Anyway, this was my idea and approach.

@CreamCat There are plenty, I checked the book again since IIRC, they recommended a specific book. Yet, it will take me to long to find it. Here is the list of Goodreads (Used Google, not the GoodReads website to search) https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/speed-reading These links also look fine. https://bookauthority.org/books/best-speed-reading-books https://myspeedreading.com/best-speed-reading-books/ They, also have higher ratings from user than the book recommended by Leo. Even on Amazon. By checking again, I would stay with the top rated books or the ones recommend from Goodreads. Possibly there are greater books than the one Leo recommended. I wanted to buy also a specific one, but I don't think I will find it anymore... Have fun and "to success"/ good fortune etc.

@arlin You can take a cold shower in the morning or choose a place which does not make you feel tired. I did not struggle that much with tiredness during meditation at the beginning thanks to cold showers. ( From warm to cold, to be more alert during the morning)

@CreamCat Check out goodreads there are books with exercises to overcome this problem and have a solution. Not seeing words as images. The Book from Leo is also listed there + others which have a higher rating. From the users there.

Just buy 20-30 bucks lol, I bought a used version. The informarion on the net is good but not as detailed as in the book.