ValiantSalvatore

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It's okay Blumenbach was right. The flowercreek always wins. That's actually funny.

It's okay Blumenbach was right.

@Raze Thx I'll check them out! Some of them I watched thanks to you already, thank you again.

Hey there I basically just postponed my thesis and went through some financial stuff with my family so everything is A okay. The point is I am not very proud or happy to having to postpone my thesis as I did not do enough and some advice that I receive here generally can make me feel rather depressed as I am highly sensetive as a person. The point is I basically have the number and she liked me of my sort of 10/10 girl/women/being w/e. The point is I told her I postponed my thesis by 2 months so something very neutral as well as that the prof is quite demanding he taught at Columbia University so I never know wtf I am getting into, yet I like him. Any ideas on how to proceed I am currently just not in any mood and can't think of anything positive as well as feel stiffled and blame/guilt trip myself currently as I am not even after doing so much work at any place I want to be, especially considering suicidal thoughts etc. I did not want to start dating to begin with, yet it's better to address the underlying problem than to avoid it. Like I mentioned before in an other post my psychologist basically gave me a go to date. Yet I still feel very guilty about how things turn out and taking full responsibillity I basically have to correct others a lot in my life as this is stuff sometimes where I do not have full influence in and that is basically my circle of influence to take the initiative and speak to the person etc. In this case the financial situation with my family as I am a person that really needs clarity. Like utterly. --- Any ideas on what to do I feel rather depressed as a feeling not a constant state at the moment. I do have a date tomorrow with another girl from online, yet I basically want to meet the 10/10 girl as I intuit she'd just be the right kind of person. She also does not live as far away, so pratically speaking everything would be better. We only talked about animes so far, and the 10/10 basically liked me and gave me her number rather quickly. Any ideas on how to proceed after telling her I postponed my thesis for 2 months, I am not in a very good mood as I am very angry at myself etc.

Any ideas on what to write her basically if she still wants to meet? I do have a date today and one one friday most likely...

I dunno I heard about so much relationship material I've read and re-did the quiz so many times after implementing p.d stuff and working on my emotionality. (Couple of years back) Secure I was avoidant before I worked on this a couple of years back... Score Mother/CG1: Anxiety: 2.67 | Avoidance: 1.67 Score Father/CG2: Anxiety: 2.67 | Avoidance: 6.00 Score Partner: Anxiety: 3.00 | Avoidance: 1.67

I hope Leo realizes this motherfucker called Zedd is from my hometown. One of my best friends hang out with him for a short time because of music. ?????

https://unifiedmindfulness.com/unified-mindfulness-coaches/ https://www.facebook.com/unifiedmindfulness/ https://unifiedmindfulness.com/continuing-education/ https://unifiedmindfulness.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page They even have a wikipage now.

There is also the life and home practice programm for micro-retreats at home and online support in case you have questions around your meditative practice. https://homepracticeprogram.com/ https://www.lifepracticeprogram.com/ There is also other stuff like becoming a certified teacher and gaining CP for your studies etc. You can become also a certified unified mindfulness teacher.

https://www.shinzen.org/resources/articles/ @Jacob Morres There is more a lot more to Shinzen techniques this might give more of an overview. Click on view all! there are more sources. For example also. https://www.shinzen.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/WhatIsMindfulness_SY_Public_ver1.5.pdf https://www.shinzen.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/FiveWaystoKnowYourself_ver1.6.pdf https://www.shinzen.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/art_painprocessingalg.pdf

@ardacigin For me the baseline definitely increased I also have more highs, I do go to retreats also so I also get some leverage through retreats. Nice to hear a shared experience. I did not get into jhana, my current "spiritual goal" is still stream entry. Shinzen defines the nuture positive theme as mindfulness practice as long as expansion and contraction meditation and considering space is not inserted into any of the "shinzenian techniques" it feels like a mindfulness practice. Expansion and contraction is just odd to experience. Although very interesting. That is interesting it's not cognitive for me anymore, yet more in my body awareness. Thanks for pointing that out! I make sure to observe and feel dullness as well as to not get seduced by it. I most likely will at one point. lol

Yo I have another question about online-dating currently I get a lot of matches and more likes it could also be the time of the year and corona, yet I somehow have issues closing and getting the number and dates. Basically my conversations structurally go like this. Me: intro opener We match She: Replies laughs, fun, explains, chats. Me: Reply to what she says ask curious question or fun question stuff out of her profile She: Stops replying I am unsure if the time frame is the issue I am matching with so many girls right now in my mind, some write such long text and I reply back basically I would ask for her number/meeting after she would reply to one of my questions. I mean I know one way how to shortcut this bullshit from my online-dating course. Yet, this is one thing that I am currently stuck with for a couple of weeks. I get a lot of matches, yet no numbers. I can show chat examples anonymously. This is where I am stuck currently or I have silent matches which are just not turning out to be converted to something positive. I made close to all of them laugh and somehow the silent match deletes me. Cocky and funny works the best for me somehow I write stuff like I bet you only get likes from old pervs or dirty old men currently. I am bored out of my mind and I sort of focus and force myself on the interesting thing. Any thoughts to this? I also like to be edgy and tease people. What do you do when mid-conversation stuff goes silent shortly before asking for a number or meet up? I do not like IM so I value my time and I basically can read every message via e-mail in advance. So, I am unsure what to do here. As currently this goes silent and a lot of women like to IM of some sort and my IM game is not all to good. As I do not have or want to invest that much time in any single women on the plattform through IM, I sometimes reply back via phone, yet I do this all very structurally infront of my computer as I currently programm with android phones and I want to not constantly think of work etc. What I want to do is is basically Exchange 3-4 messages in total ask for number What happens is it stops after the third message somehow Also note that the quality of the women has definitely increased so unsure it's sort of a new playing field.

Hey I am training with Shinzens system mostly and just wanted to write that my sleepiness tends to dampen after I am done with my meditation doing now for 6-8 months a positive feeling meditation I generally do feel more energy and more alertness also from Shinzen. Just after my meditation. Unsure cold showers in the past helped me the most to deal with sleepiness at a zen retreat I almost did now 4 years ago. I was also taking cold showers dunno this helped me the most. Turning towards helped me to metabolize the drowsyness turning away it felt more like building concentration not adressing the fundamental issue. I don't practice as consistent as you since I know your posts. Currenlty I have a 30 min practice with micro retreats. I definitely feel more energy during retreat, yet at the end of the second 8h day I feel very tired and almost can't participate anymore. Although when I breakthrough it I have often a renewal of energy. I also find using binaureal beats for me very effective, so I almost always use them besides when on retreats or it rains outside beautifully.

@Javfly33 From Leo's videos (IIRC) and my point of view yes and no ultimately I do not know as I have less experience approaching, yet writing now close to 700 women online. There is less incentive to be social to begin with so there could be many reason as why offline works better. Charm, better first impression, you being seen as social. From listening to females perspective and talking to friends fear can play a big role as so men can be real asses as well as social repudiation/shaming. I think fear plays less a role online, it's way more bias. Imagine I approached 3 girls and almost got laid with the third one on the same night. And I've texted 700+- women with a 10 to 10% ratio 70+- matches 7+- dates. Which to my online course, which is clearly not red pill, to emphasis this, says is good. There is also less incentive to stereotype a person as this is socially not appropriate anymore, depending on country, place of origin etc. SD stage. Yes, fear plays a big role a female/women friend of mine told me she is scared walking alone in the forest etc. when she is in her home "village" I asked why? She answered because of people and you don't know what they end up doing when you are alone and she is quiet badass in a sense. If you are a 6 foot guy you'd not give a shit and there is less threat to begin with so your whole being does not recognize it. Building trust is also a process that happens online through proper questions and building rapport for instance having social pics with friends makes you less threatening. So if you might fear that you scare away people because you are a "chad" and usually a genuiently good hearted spirit, then take a picture with friends at best. They even recommended to take a picture with your mother of course in a full profile just to show. One guy said family pictures are great also for building trust. Makes you look non-threatening. I imagine never having done game just going out with a wing makes you less threatening also as it displays you being social and you generally are safer in a group as a human. It's similar to being controlled at the airport when you travel alone, you just can be threatening as a male subject and cause a lot of assumptions.

@Nahm Thank you for the comment again also sharing back the love ❤. I watched parts of your video about creating a reality with emotions very late yesterday and now this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3VW5l1_8tA Yes, creating a structure and consistently following it is a very rational activity and I feel more functional doing it as I am not bound by it. The structure is not real it's part of my imagination in that sense and merely serves a purpose. Although paradoxically it allows for more joy. more flow as rationality is already emotionally a very high state from Dr.David Hawkins emotional / vibrational scale. Also breaking the structure and doing what is fun is even more fun then. I know it sounds childish, yet I experience more joy planning and executing a plan. Then to just be for me planning is being in a sense. I am consistently on time, I get a lot more flow states. I feel more purpose etc. When I am not planning and creating a structure nothing get's done even in my meditations. Letting go of the structure helps and for me this is not conjecture, it is my direct experience. I am not a person that can just live and let things happen and I get what I want. For me directing attention towards what I want and then receiving it by allowing it works very well. I am already a very spontaneous being, it sucks a bit that many wish for it on demand and seem to become rigid then. Or even expecting it for me it is a just happening isness quality to it, especially as a meditator. You feel spontaneous and automatically act spotaneous. Yes, fun fills all empty cups. Thank you again for mentoning that that feels very filling to read and type this. I know she is not an object online-dating definitely makes all people an object of desire, yet I certainly do not own her like a car etc. I watched some Teal Swan videos on this on positive containment. I'd prefer meditating on a date, yet I don't think that would work currently even if I dated one yoga girl ?. I see how the information of wanting the experience of what I want can be exhausting because it is not already there, it is not fully received as well as aversion is pointing to what is also. I avert positive and negative experiences I can tell from direct experience when I feel what I feel I mostly feel intense subtle joy and it's very contagious. Especially during meditations I keep crying being thankful for just having a tiny moment of sheer bliss etc. Thank you for the compliment also! I've never for heard heart of gold and I feel yours is even bigger! Namaste!

@Nahm Thanks again for a very kind message. My manifestations mostly focus on feeling the having of it. Feeling it not only imagery. I do take action the point is I am doing a 90 day challenge people can't seem to fathom that I am doing this differently, because I simply can. I am going to create the dreamboard, and focus on what I want, experience it and take action as I alreadys was doing without a dreamboard. Feeling the aversion of manifesting it, feeling the resistance of manifesting it. It sucks to see so many seemingly healthy uninjured for life time wussies as well as subtle repudiation. I am using information as a way to experience what I want to experience. I know there is aversion in me. I do not find a way to express myself in society that does not shame me in a way. As well as my injury hinders me from sitting in a seated cross-legged position. This is all not fun. As well I am even being very vulnerable sharing this. With voltage you mean the feeling and experience of it? I am not just gathering information to set this clear again, I use the information to experience the thing that I want to experience. I'll create the dreamboard and use it and visualize and feel what I want and take action. This will take some time. I am better off doing the courses as I can put the information to practice, yet sometimes it's good to have a second pair of eyes. As well as feedback. Yes, I am doing this strategically and yes this yields me the best results. If I just let go my entire life derails. I can life sponatenously in a strucutre, yet I'll do better setting myself constraints. Like activity managament / time blocking the same goes for all of this and then I am shamed for it. I love working it's just when I see certain kinds of people I know why I was so negative to beginn with. I flow a lot inside a structure and it feels very healthy to be spontaneous inside that structure as well as to consistently change and experience things. I just dislike it that I am being shamed for enjoying the thing that I love the most online and offline. This dreamboard might be more needed than I think. Thank you for suggesting it I made a note in my journal on how to create one. I'll have to ask different questions then on a different sub-section. Online-dating is not really the issue. It's currently growing pains, by the kind of feedback I receive I notice no one already again has a clue to what is going on. Besides a handful of people.

@Striving for more You can spare yourself any stage red bullshit. I already approached some. The same goes for you. A lot of projection and stupidity. You don't get that there are logistical issues. The point is yes I could be one, yet someone like you would just not understand it as well as with white beauty bias.

@something_else Dude man with my LP I'd be working 8-12h in front of a pc. Programming/Coding/Engineering/Design/Research whatever. Online-dating is one solution and one challenge that I am doing for 90 days. I want to change that drastically I have to do it all alone thanks to interest I can't pursue my interest of atheletecism due to my injury as intensly as I'd like to. I wanted to try different sports that I now can't. I really hate Germany although I have not been to to many places inside the country. I'd have to be working close to 60h a week to get out of the country and most other countries have a shitty social system, less holidays etc.. I will travel to Scandinavian countries soon... It sucks being injured for a life time. There is not a large pool of women here, there are so many areas to trouble shot I'd basically had to be aware of. If someone would have showed me hey pickup could have been done consciously 3-4 years ago and all of this is normal as I am harshly judged by society for every tiny move I make as a 6 foot black/white guy. Then yes, I would have approached, yet the communities are toxic. Academia is fking toxic. As well as the bias within science is fking disgusting. Let alone beauty standards and peoples preferences. I worked a lot of myself to be bias free. Yet, the collective bias does not make this stuff easier. The point is all of my activities are so isolating and time consuming having a committed partner would make my life a lot easier. Then finding someone who can keep up with this hyper vibe of mine is not easy. As most succumb to temptations etc and it takes an effort to life very clean... Approaching outside yes, I am commited to doing that next year as I bought the course from cook own/owen cook, I need visual material I can't just see constantly a talking head. I don't know it's just friends are make are turning out racist, have racist humour, share racist memes. This country and the experiences I made what I read from famous black people, what I read by sciene and it's mostly young people. Women are not the issue I have to emphasis this it really is white men and in generally men that fuck up a lot of my experiences and sabotage me as well as create bias and racism mostly as well as media plattforms. I don't have any issues being social, yet to setup a plan to learn and read the ressources as I am not very good without some sort of structure is an issue for me. Especially since flexibility is an issue thanks to my injury it's very mental thing. I approached women now during night game, yet not seeing any wings being on my own. Day game does not currently exists if I change unis I can approach girls on the campus. Which was one way I thought I can meet people. Yet, my uni was very small my upbringing was not bad, yet my family is unable to deal with my needs I've put in so many hours of shadow work and people keep dying around me, being diagonsed with illnesses etc. That completely disrupts my social life. Then having close to 0 conscious friends as academia basically turned them fully unconscious almost. It sucks. I can complain it won't do shit, if I do not start to love my problems and fix them fundamentally then yes. I'll turn bitter. Not automating online-dating is one of them partially. The respones here make me more bitter as well as not shared experiences. I can basically only approach women during the gym and while I am shopping. Or comments like OMG so try hard. Why waste your time sharing such a stupid opinion. When I make an effort to improve a part of my life? How oh so conscious. I know these apps should be secondary, yet I want to do the 90 day challenge and it's a challenge unconstructive comments are way more disruptive than talking about the activity of online-dating itself. You are right and still this is a 90 day challenge.

@Wyatt Like I said this already is skewed bias partially. You would not really understand it. I tested my pictures and have pictures taken by a professional. I do get matches, the issue is I have an injury that just does not allow me to train my body fully as I am athletic and good looking and 6'3 tall, so I can't even show my strength fully. There is a strong bias towards dating apps that is also a reference to real life that is quite obvious and racist. For you as a white man this might not be as obvious. Bascally having big arms and a big chest get's you a lot of matches regardless of skin color as well as status. I've heard and seen this multiple times now. Especially younger women like testosteron males more and older women are more about income and wealth. It's mostly about status even when I actively write women who have higher status an dated them and I dislike orienting myself that way, yet this is how stuff plays out. I can apply the principles as much as I want and see, yet you really would not understand it especially in Europe. I have pictures of me being outside doing sports, as well as one of my favorite hobbies which is reading and one with my bike which actually is expensive. They are not great pictures in my opinion I am very critical, yet I asked friends as I can't test every single photo I'd go broke. I don't have parents that pay my vacation or the luxury to constantly to go on vacation and take pictures. Even though I travelled a lot. It is just expensive and trust me currently I have a very good amount of money that allows me to do what I want. I can skim profiles again depending on the plattform basically the more status you display and wealth the better you have it in some sense, especially if you display it subtely because it is Oh so smart and elegant. Being dressed in suits, wearing brand clothes, social proof of some sort pictures with friends in a club somwhere, travel pictures are great. All displayed subtely. I can travel soon and plan to take pictures, although this process is very frustrating I skim guys profile like I said I land in the top 10-20%, yet not 10% and the top 10% is where you get the real juicy rewards. I received also one number online from a beautiful girl just so, because I was authentic, yet we would not vibe. Also depending on the app you might benefitted from the algorithm as you were travelling especially if you used Bumble. As you constantly show up as a new person in a region. I really appreciate your kind comment, yet the amount of bias and scam on these sites as well as my current life situation and interests does not make it better. The more social status you display the easier you have it. I've been to exotic places and it does not work for me. I'd be better of being black jacked and bald. Without being jacked and strong body language on pictures I won't land at the top 10% I've seen so many idiotic male profiles even if they have more status etc. Like I said I can't fully train myself now, travel pictures are soon to be taken. So I am in a position where it is a 10x issue and I am even working out just not eating to get buff. Then new corona rules etc. There is way more nuance to this post and to online-dating etc. In real life I receive compliments of being handsome and good looking ever since I was small I was disgusted by the idea that only my looks matter and I do not have a great sense of style etc. I also receive interest from attractive women yet the pool of women around me has been relatively small because I am in IT. It's very frustrating to be constantly told you are attractive genuient you have a nice body, you have have nice face etc. As well as to be a constant fractal of some sort. I'd most likely do better approaching women in real life, yet since I currently don't get around being many women etc. Sorry, I am just so aggrevated by this process and not being able to implement what works and having shitty accountabillity in a sense. As well as racist, stupid, and unintelligent assumptions.

@Javfly33 Yeah, it can also just be the app like I say I find OkCupid to be hidden gold and a "unicorn" plattform I can only recommend it. The apps generally put you on top as long as you change something about your profile some algorithms work differently. Everything that is new gives you a lot of likes for example changing places when moving Bumble gives a lot of likes as the algorithm prefers that. So, when your location is at a different city and it's an account that is not new you get many likes. What plattform do you use currently? I just started testing a third one. Online-dating should be secondary, yet in my situation I see it as sort of the best option I have besides going out alone on the weekend and doing game 3x a week I wanted to do smth. like this more next year. --- @Nahm Yes, I have a vision board for my vision from the LP course from Leo. I've thought about the dream board I might create one soonish. As I have one for my vision. I am unsure if they are dissimilar. Right now I don't really get to do it and I am very consistent with the visualization. I will see when I get around to create it.

@Javfly33 When you get matches it feels like abundance, I agree that it hurts ones self-esteem alot, you need to have very thick skin for it otherwise it's not good. That is my opinion.

Yes, it definitely is an activity of the mind in my personal experience it is not easy to convey all of this via language. Notice english is not my first language. Yes I prefer the term strategy as this is something longterm running in the background and it also multi paradigmatic and will be one exemplar for transition to interacting with women offline. I've manifested stuff and practiced this in my own original way(Hicks, Shinzen, Dr.David R Hawkins, Deepak Chopra etc, Eckhart Tolle) , as I conflate a lot of information and focus on the bare bone elements. For instance I asked Shinzen Young about manifestation using positive visualization for reaching goals etc. I know he is fine with that stuff, yet it's not easy to get him to talk about it. As his entire mission is/was to get the mist out of mystecism. So, he talks very rational about it, yet he becomes mostly very enthusiastic when he talks with me most of the time and we cut down the bullshit I really do like this. He explained me yes it's possible and ways to do it. I've gotten results, yet it's not an easy process. I've also did retreats with him where there are segments of just working to create positive feelings. So, imagine I basically am constantly in a higher vibe state than my dates. Which can be frustrating. I am a strong "believer" in synchrodestiny, yet getting back to this miraculous feeling is not easy. As this was short lived. I really like it that you say do the stuff and think the stuff that makes you feel good. As I often feel judged for doing so I am very high energy in that sense it's to intense for most and they rationally regard it was annoying while I often feel the vice-versa. That definitely is what I am experiencing if I am not going through emotional turbulances which is normal. I have more highs than lows it's just that my needs are not meet fully I can't expect others to be high vibe most somewhere linger around contentment. I am a very passionate individual and I feel crippled by rationality. Yet, this is the standard emotional state of universities etc. Yes, I talk binary mostly as this is more understandable to most humans. When I start speaking tier 2 it's over their head I basically am forced to talk stage appropriately. I've read most of the emotional scale article from your website it is not shocking new information for me, it is information that I synchronistically have been looking at the past 6 months approx. listening to two books from Dr David R. Hawkins and the manifestation book from Abraham Hicks ask and it shall be given IIRC was the title. I've experienced/contemplated and observed the experience meditated and creating a higher vibe. The point is I am very HSP so I suck up all kinds of emotions and many people linger around willingness/acceptance which is a low state in a sense. Also, I really like your article and the breakdown of each of the emotional layers that exist! As well as to feel every emotion. I have a weird condition with my nervous system I experience a lot of sensory joy. There is no deep science to this yet. So people often think there is smth. wrong with me when there isn't as they are not used to this high energy thing. This can also backfire as I then feel very strong negative emotions also. It's like an amp. Yes, this is what I mean the label is a pointer basically the map of the territory which helps you guide and explore the territory. When the forest is what I desire and the exploration of it is the experiencing of it. Then the label aka the map is not a concept then it's a tool! One tool in my toolbelt! Untill I can let go of the label and just be there! I re-frame it like this the I know that aversion is suffering and I put the concepts to practice and treat it more like principles that are guidelines running through a holon for example. This is very helpful I am just practicing this for 6 months to directly increase the upward spiral of emotions with positive visualizations with 30 minutes of positive meditations through unified mindfulness. I did 8-10 days of retreats unfortunately only this year. I used to do 1h sits and generally attempt retreats of 14 days a year approx. for 2-4 years now. All very very strategically because otherwise it is not possible. It's similar to emotions on the scale, if I would not express this stage orange drive etc. Then I would not even be able to do this work. --- Also there are not many high vibe women on these sites, I match the ones who are high vibe as I am high vibe. Which is not easy as HSP being. I basically feel responsible ever since I've felt I somewhat solidly hit turqouise I am responsible for the "harmonics" emotional we space of the room as I notice this and feel this more and I generally take good care of it. It's just not easy as HSP as in general also online-dating. I am experiencing the emotional scale more as I also talked with flowboy about this and he gave similar advice as to feel the emotions more. The point is I am odd I can cry on the spot and be very vulnerable. People do not understand this and I do not show this because they think it's fake. Yet, I constantly subtely experience joy. It's just not fully blown yet. etc. etc. I did not get into jhanas, pithis etc. To experience the concepts and having a map for clarity.

@Bando Yes, this is what I am doing on the phone I bust on her profile make fun of something in her picture or notice something unique. I agree with stuff so we can build trust and then move on, yet currently the conversation dies around the third text. This is what I've noticed too humour might be good to get a response, yet it's better in person and keeps the date interesting it might move a silent match to a repsonse and potential conversation. Till now I only was deleted after I've sent something funny or witty. Yeah that is the issue I have I might be able to move soon to a somewhat larger city, as my life purpose is still more important to me. I presume I am in the top 20% otherwise I would not currently get so many matches, yet a lot of women flake. As well as I am sure I am not in the top 10% therefore to much sh*t happend that I am still working out. I am still in a phase where I can't do game consistently it's either I do it alone in my city or I just go out with friends and do somewhat game. Yet, they somehow judge you and even if they are open-minded they think it's needy. While I think it shows character and courage, especially doing this sober while going out and having fun. So, I am really looking for non-toxic wings. Which is just not easy here. My "wing" basically is good, yet he does not approach and just get's girls online. He approached some, yet more day game stuff. As he thinks goal setting in that sense is needy for example going out and approaching 20-30 girls, it's very stupid to talk with him and another friend about this as they frame it just as needy. I am unsure what is needy about being interested in women and approaching them sober and having a good time. It's just the social matrix fucks people at one point who are not into meditation etc. @Lyubov Yes, definitely like to have a second pair of eyes screeing over this as I know I can be to intense for other people as well as I have difficulties relaxing, I'll pm you some chats soonish. Would be cool if you could go over them and just give me your thoughts. @something_else I don't know, yet there is a really low incentive to screw people over as they over some of their courses almost for free (7 dollar for a tinder course) and if they want to waste your time, they'd better be off making money on their own. It's not like some hardcore flashy stuff, it's very down to earth. Of course everyone has their own version, yet I liked it that all of them offered courses and shared their perspectives on one plattform. It's worth it to some degree I will see after 90 days how well this stuff works. I would not buy it if I'd had a lot of experience online-dating, especially for the amount of money I spent. (200€ approx.) As I really want to get the most out of it. I do think there is some skill to it as taking good pictures takes skill if not done by a professional, even research takes some sort of skill, and yes photofeeler is great. I do think from the guy who tested it the most that people undervalue the importance of a message. As many guys are like Hey sweeti , Hey cutie and this is just horrible it's fun to make fun of it. There is no real hidden skill there is just some way to get attention that is situational and I want to learn that also. I really dislike being average. @Leo Gura Yes and that is why I am asking myself why did she choose that one guy out of twenty? Somehow he was able to catch her attention be it through some variable pictures, message, humour, confidence, random fact, hobbies etc. Yet, there is some way from the course from David DeAngelo to signal that kind of behaviour and to sort of be that great catch and get her to IM. When she is chatting with so many guys. I guess I still have to learn that. At least to grab her attention and get to a meet up to take this to a none superficial level would be great. As I am working towards my vision. There are two ways that I can test the no b.s two text approach and/or the get her to IM meet up approach. Currently as a "concept". @Nahm Yes, paradoixcally I know that this is my simplyfing process. What I am focusing on I do get a lof of matches, my visualizations are not yet fully vivid in that sense when it comes to dating and meeting up. Matching yes. I do not run a very strategic system I approach the process strategically that I set a time constraint etc. Otherwise I'll work conceptually to understand the concept similar to a label in meditation at one point I won't need the label anymore an, yet what good does it do if I do not know the forest and explore it? It could be that I attract complication and complexity as it really is an emotional issue for me to think simply and to have that aha-moment all of these failures are part of growth. I am not a very simple guy. I am just not. Also just thanks for mentioning the word love in an online-dating thread!