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@Leo Gura Aight I see what comes to mind. Last time I've said something about I'd love to see some naked boobs loud into the public then the barkeeper came with us into the club and said smth. silently with boobs and I ellbowed her boobs like 3 times with enough space. She just ran into me like on purpose with her boobs. This sh*t will definitely take some training. I'll see what improv interests come up as well as to speak with authority and clear intent. Aight aight I just see what I can come up with and what will happen in the moment. Thanks again for the exemplar. I'll see how far I'll get with all of this and focus on opening and being improvisational. Last time I triggered teacher when I improvised I laughed at her and myself and kept teasing her about, how can you teach elementary school children osmosis, I thought this is so funny. At one point she grabbed my hair angrily and shook me. In good jest. She had a boyfriend though. I'll see what will happen I think I am with the right people.

@vindicated erudite Thanks I'll see what I can free flow associate with. And inquire about themselves.

@vindicated erudite Yeah I am with friends, I like to connect people so I don't really care. I just need a fun topic.

@Leo Gura Thanks a lot also! How do you follow up though? Asking about interests what she's doing here and then going for number asking for haning-out inside the club or if they want to join us and staying till the set closes? I re-watched your part 2 of getting laid series and there was a lot of info. I do have to re-watch it again though and then take action. I do think outergame is the bigger issue than my inner game currently. --- @vindicated erudite I'll add the technical nuance, this is for opening an entire set of more than 3-4+ girls and mixed groups IIRC. I did not mention that. That is my bad. A direct opener I would use what you wrote, yet I will open larger sets also. I really like attention so the indirect openers are for larger sets. My own openers are bad I admit etc. etc. but okay.

@Federico del pueblo Thanks a lot!. I'll copy this and modify it as well as use the lines that already fit within my personality or I like. Yeah I am a bit afraid of the follow up as well as how fast physical escalation can work. I'll just focus on the opener just opening and seeing IOT's is good enough for starters. Also all of these are sort of the supercategory of observational openers. Thanks again. I'll see what will happen and works for me.

@something_else Yeah that is what I also thought observational openers could work the best for me. These openers are supposed to work for bars and clubs. What summarized. What are simple openers to you? I'd like to focus on just opening first and learning that for a while and then move on.

@Superfluo Usually you have muscle memory so if you built it once you can re-train it faster how fast I don't know. Yet IIRC the crux is you have to re-train, yet it builds faster. This gives a good science perspective. I am also not an expert, yet he studied this stuff IIRC. This is a partical video: This should give a good strategic view. A 3 day full-body workout per week. Might give you what you need and are looking for. A 5 day split can be quiet ambitious. This is more how muscle memory works. In case my post was not helpful or missed the mark. Let me know. Again I am no expert, neither do I look like the guy in the video.

@Vivaldo I have a similar experience as Leo most guys who I know who get laid a lot are not as tall as me many are way better at socializing and taking initiative. 5'10-5'11 is normal. You are way taller than most women. Yes, I get compliments for my height I am 6'3, yet it does not really help me besides creating sympathy and some socialization occasion, it's an easy thing to comment on for girls when she likes you or finds your interesting. It's not as much as you think and it's mostly in work enviroment settings as well as casual socializing with friends. Where my height is commented, yet not when going out. Can't actively recall an instance were a girl complimented my height when I was doing night game the couple of times now I went since last year. Tbh it's the same as when girls and guys tell you, you are good looking at one point it can be annoying. So I generally pay not to much attention to it and use the situation to be social, say thank you and give a compliment back. Won't deny it's an advantage. Socialization and taking action as well as escalating seem to be way more important than height. Most guys who are good with women I've meet are smaller than me. So, I don't think it matters as much. I'd personally rate clothing style, confidence and experience with women higher than height in terms of attracting women. As well as good leadership. Basically being assertive and fun. Women during night game grativate to good vibes like moths towards light. It's amazing to observe that still, as I am sort of a mellow person.

@Vivaldo Lmao, maybe you are one! I am in the same boat in terms of approaching most guys have approach anxiety you are not alone here. I never really gamed, yet just being social and talking helped me a lot to be calm around super hot women. Definitely use the chance when an attractive girl checks you out and keeps prolonged eye contact and ask for he number, you can easily from then on initate a meet up with her/conversation. For bowling, coffee, a drink. Do fun stuff! Have fun doing this and activities that are fun for you. It's your life mate! Be couragous and bold. This stuff definitely hurts. Get the number 100%. I regret one approach for example a couple of weeks ago as she checked us out and she was totally my type. I am also not used to approaching as I focused so much on online-dating.

@Vivaldo I made the same mistake hundred of times and I'll most likely still make it of not doing anything when girls look at me. I get consistently asked if I have a girlfriend. That I look good. That I am handsome. When I was jacked I had girls saying out aloud omg this guy must be gay I read that this basically means she is already thinking sexually about you and can't believe you don't have a girl etc. One guy said I should work as a model, yet whatever. Same when I am going out currently some girls start making eye contact and I've read now that it basically is a good opportunity to engage in conversation even in public for example girl sitting infront of you in a bus/subway when there are clearly others places and the bus is relatively empty. As well as when a girl is unable to look you into the eyes completely she already is showing interest as she is hidden her attraction towards you, being shy etc. When she keeps making eye contact for a prolonged time and then looks away that definitely is an invitation for conversation. Some trivial scenarios as well as some counter-perspectives. I went out with a friend of mine he is a very high vibe guy and at the sametime relaxed and chill. He can dance quiet well. So he told when he goes clubbing and starts dancing with friends and he turns up, dance battles start happening and he get's challenge he declines he is not that good. Sometimes girls come to him for dancing as well. Another example is when we were out dancing together in some club we were 3 tall good looking dudes. One girl with her friend approached him and wanted to spend him a drink, he did not like it that she ghosted him. For some reason and just declined, yet she kept initiating for like good 1-2 minutes and he had to look away and ignore her. I jumped in and started dancing with her friend to build sort of a group, she was quiet receptive, yet he did not like her so they moved on. He was also approached and he is not jacked just good looking, and yeah tall. By some smoking hot girl when he was on a bike from the gym ( he lost a lot of weight) he was approached by her she screamed some stuff out of the car. Like I could not believe the story we went out on the sameday he rejected the other girl. He rejected this one either by not staying she invited him over for beer and he wanted to dance, she said she'll come up. Yet this idiot from my point of view misaligned interests. She already approached him! And he does not comply. As he wanted to go his own way and do what he wants. They wanted to meet never meet again. This sometimes can happen if you go out alot. My example was I was went into a club and started making eye contact some were more receptive and one girl kept looking at me, yet I did not approach her as I did not know that this "should" be an invitation for conversation. I approached other girls and got my friend laid through that. I am also legit scared when a girl makes eye contact as to engage especially when I am alone with others in public, like waiting in line even to get into a club. I have girls checking me out. You could easily approach, yet I feel paralyzed almost sometimes. Another example just being social. Last saturday I went out with a friend who has a pull rate till now of 90% or so it's rather shocking. He fucked the same girl twice that day and one other girl he took home. He was also approached by a girl as I was standing infront of him as "excuse" to be social. He approached a couple of girls, yet we already had two with us. Still since he is so social the same girls keep gravitating to him if everbody chickens out or she is just pleased by the guy. I approached 0. I tried to physical escalate with one, basically while walking put my arms around her and pulled her into me after talking a bit. She was quiet receptive that was shocking to me. Anyway the guy basically just does nothing besides being social and going for the pull. At one point saying let's go to your place and let's go etc. I am done. He noticed the one girl was blowing the beer bottle and she pushed him into the toilett twice and fucked him twice in a strip club... It was a bit wild. He also looks good and is approx. the same height as you with 5'10-5'11. He also texted other girls while out to see what is still up, so he can get laid. Still was mostly being social and went to high vibe areas. He also greets a lot of the bar owners and waitresses and talks with them. Which get's him access into clubs faster. Talking and dancing with women basically. It's rather insane going out with the dude in a shitty area and he really really does nothing besides being social and fun, and escalating as well as a bit leading. I do more leading tbh, but okay. I do think this subtle signals like blowing the bottle, longer eye contact are clear indicators she is interested, so talking is the best thing you can do. I barely talked so I did not get anything. My observation was talking to girls makes you look social, so girls feel less judged if they approach and talk to you or give you IOT as well as this is social proof in a sense especially when you talk longer with a girl or escalate. TLDR; It's an IOT (indicator of interest) for conversation and just approaching. With the group of 5 no idea, they could be giggling as out of interest/fantasy. Same with girls calling me gay out of a group. Hope this is not to long and readable.

Please don't let this forum again deterriorate into stage orange madness. Like it was before with a reward system that was in place here. That is absolutely stage orange incentivised as if this stuff is multi-systemic. It was absoutely horrible and a status festival. As well as the amount of subtle racist posts I've seen was horrible. So much bias with a rating system. To binary.

@Hello from Russia Definitely all media usage will suck up time and conscious media as well as mind expanding media definitely has the benefit of just feeling well and relaxed as well as entertained and can definitely be a tool for relaxation and recreation or even nuturing your inner child like watching your favorite movie you did as a kid. When I consume very toxic media I definitely feel the vibe of that media inside my body and mind and for news sources I tend to look for the least polarazing and most professional sources. Although I do sometimes just watching the hype mass media just to see the general sentiment of the general public. I also find it inevitable to not feel it when going outside and there is some drama, yet when I am more conscious and more consumed more conscious videos. Like dharma talks etc. I either feel often that my energy is being sucked away or that the negative energy does not affect me at all anymore. As my inner state of emotions is so stable. When I go out into the world. Working out, working, studying etc. It's a bit like a movie. All media is the new TV imo. YouTube, Actualized.org, Netflix, Amazon prime, Snapchat, Instagram, WeChat, WhatsApp, Facebook etc. Generally I keep since I use a lot of YouTube my recommended section clean so only mostly conscious materials are presented and I use a lot of music from YouTube while having studied or working. I disclued any channel that has a toxic vibe and does not serve me anymore and try to add as many channels as possible, so I still have a variety of options beng recommended to me. So I am not locked into narrow-mindedness. Generally it's a new TV since it sucks up a lot of time and it could be re-oriented towards more prolific undertakings or conscious endeavours. I use YouTube a lot I do think and from what I saw sometime ago it's definitely the most conscious and the least polarazing generally available media source, altough people can get stuck in YouTube toxic rabbit holes and ideologies. For example when I started dating, the YouTube algorithm determined to show me videos of why modern man suck and to embrace masculinity I watched one video and thought it's okay, yet still not very conscious. So I deleted all videos. Sometimes I find it's a test in consciouness to see how well you do enduring toxic stuff. Yet, I don't want to claim this is universally true, although negativity affects me less, yet hits me harder the more conscious I become. TLDR; Would be yes.

@LastThursday I dunno if you read the book they have life conditions that can be fostered through the description qualities/traits of all of these stages. Which is sort of the main difference that can be found and something that is still mindboogeling to me how I can create that in my own life etc. I bought more books on SD, I read the spiral dynamics in action book also. Sort of the tapestry of traits being woven out of characteristics and qualities within each SD is what SD makes a cluster of traits for me. https://spiraldynamicsintegral.nl/en/turquoise/ I am unsure anymore if the book etc. all SD resources talk about traits, I tend to forget at one point. This is by far the most important nuance and what many people forget about SD, all these qualities are still active and can be used etc. For me for it's just extremely difficult even after having done courses and the recommended practices to get to the next stages to explain the development without a map. That is true. I sometimes dislike it as they can be just seen as "feel good" models instead of taking even simplicity serious and as well as having just fun with the model and not taking it serious. I'll definitely will be conscious of this info when going out lmao.

@BlueOak I can see your point of view that when someone shouts or triggers you enormously, we have this fantasy of oh we should not be angry and reply with some sort of threat of violence of our own. Or shout back, fight back, threaten etc. I am neither ego free nor awoke.I did have some state experiences in meditation retreats and taking some psychedelics. Also dissolving a lot of shadow material on psychedelics. I find these moral questions are really really important and tbh I did not study this extensively, yet read about the models from Kohlberg etc. There are different issues. My favorite take on this with anger is for example if you are on a life boat, with a nazi, hells angels, an architect, a backer and you/me. The hells angels / nazis have to go they will cling to power, you can run all of the SD stages through it and apply the moral lense that shapes these values of each stage. Hells angels red / terrorist red / nazis red etc. On the persons themselves. How green would act, how yellow would act etc. I liked Wilbers answer a lot that the hells angels/nazis or pure red need to go, basically you'd have to get rid of them in order for all of you to survive, instead of for example applying the moral lense of "oh we are all equal" let's let the nazis stay they are not threatening our survival. Let them stay in hopes that we are not killed/raped etc. When we arrive at an island with our life boat and they will cling to power because of lack of morals etc. You see this from the higher perspective and more mature perspective, even though it might seem less moral at lower stages and more "immature" at not fully ripe stages. Ego backlashes, aftershocks, dark knights etc. All can be experienced during the path. I had more dark experiences like purgatory when meditating. Not on pyschedelics fortunately. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a344llNU15Y Insights I found in my own meditations is that a deep compassion is behind anger, when the emotion is fully digested/purged etc. Does not mean anger stops etc. Love and gratitude are also for me deep ways in which I can transcend this intense thoughts about violence/anger as well as my projection of them, which is not easy to sort of love your enemy. I love to give the flipside analogy of my personal experience. I meet a nazi when I was 18 or so who was 17 he was so racistly loving to me I could not help loving the guy, even if he was like blatantly overt racist, after a while he said to me. You know what for a black guy you are pretty decent. I had to laugh so hard, he turned fully red. After that we had a lot of fun. Finding ways to express all of these feelings and doing shadow work of some sort is important. I am not a shadow work expert as this as I stopped and changed my shadow work practice to smth. that many might not recommend or even consider. I'd prefer not using violence either, yet sometimes it's neccessary in my opinion to exercise force.

@BlueOak Ultimately it's about deconstructing identity, a healthy ego/identity definitely helps to smoothen the process.

@BlueOak You can run both pathways. Feeling leads to identity as well as identity leads to feeling. Early chilhood upbringing, trauma, successes, positive experiences etc. All can form an identity through emotions/energetic experience basically the whole being collectively and individually. Collective and individual mass identities of I am an american, human being, a chef, an architect, a computer programmer, father, mother, husband, wife, gay, white, black, meditator, healer, artist etc. All of these are mostly formed through emotions and through thought and are perpetuated by it. When the reference experience does not fundamentally change thoughts, feelings, energetic experience all sense gates etc. Then there is no fundamental shift in identity. As well as when these emotions do not change. The fundelmental identity does also not change. For example I can have an experience as a meditator that shifts my entire identity to the point where an identity does not even make sense, all of these categories. As well as the fundamental shift in emotions experienced also changes. Or to give a more real world personal example. When I was working out and shifted as a mindset my identity from being a guy at the gym, to being an athelete in training or even when meditating while working out a god in training. It definitely helped me to feel more positively and hit more flow states and forget the issue of identity, self-refrence, ego etc. completely. As well as my emotional state shifted thanks to the flow state hit more joy, more passion, more love, less hate, less pride, less apathy, less shame etc. That would be a shift in identity leads to a different shift in what you feel. It also hads some negative qualities with it I felt more vanity and pride also. Also a shift in what I feel leads to a shift of my identity I could start feeling a lot of contentment and pleasure in my life so I identify myself now as a happy human or happy guy, instead of when I just felt more miserable as an unhappy and unsatisfied guy or human. I can be a happy chef and I can be an unhappy chef. The quality of my work will shift etc. So the identity shift and the emotional shift both have a casual relation. I'd say. It's a both and question not either or. It's interconnected feeling and identity.

@LastThursday That is cool to know first time I saw one was when I took the course. I am sometimes unsure I'd be way more critical of the content of SD itself having contemplated it for so long now, especially when reading and applying the sections from the book about life conditions, and it's not easy to establish those. I generally think with every model it's like this, yet if it's not polarity mapped, sometimes I noticed my thinking get's stuck on being focused on seeing the overall end-result and not the entire dynamic of the field, that includes obsession of the process of getting to the result, instead of seeing the full dynamic and how it runs and being reminded etc. I generally feel you can take every map and make it a polarity map and add orthogonal poles just riffing off language here to the map and it's quadrant. What many miss about SD you never are at one stage so the "dynamic" or polarity according to the book it basically runs like this if you are at one stage let's say I am orange then I use 33% one stage up and one stage down, as my main and these are integral terms... structure stage development. So it's fully achieved that I am orange and I now can use 100% of the capacity of orange, yet I fundamentally also will use 33% of the next higher and 33% of the next lower stage. I have access to 100% of the lower stages, yet my main "structure stage development" is bouncing between 3 stages using 33% of it's perspective most of the time. So you can gleam a good portion of the next stage and are using it at the sametime. Many don't notice this so when I am fully Green I use also parts of Yellow, yet I don't have the full capacity of Yellow active in me. SD is also value focused, integral theory goes a bit deeper. What I am saying is the model is one-dimensional most likely, yet the polarity is applied to the "whole field" of SD stages more, as when living conditions hit the fan. The dynamic spirals down till it hits a center of gravity. Then the polarity beginns again. Then there is the translation of the stage also basically moving towards the positive orthogonal pole more. Basically more direct experience of that stage polarity etc. --- I know it's a very unpopular opinion, yet I think the MBTi is heavily limited as it's so focused on the cognitive capacity of ones type and you can only be one type. It's everytime this stack of cogntive stacks of this compares to the stacks of that. It's like they forget that people have a body and only have a brain and are hunting for types instead of just seeing compatability. I noticed this when dating too... as a model I prefer the Ennea. As it deals with human desires and vices also. As well as includes congition. As well as has neuroscience as well as MBTI has neuroscience. Dunno hope I did not derail the thread I definitely flucatate between all 4 of these, most likely bandit the least, as I am heavily focused on win-win situations from reading PD books. I definitely also would feel and say most people are more like bandits.

I recentely used this https://www.amazon.de/Success-Journal-Serious-Blue-Productivity/dp/1631066641 it helped me a lot to achieve my goals and work a lot without feeling that I burn-out. I find myself consistenly unable to hit all of the 5 goals from the life purpose course, yet this one really helped me. Any tools you can use for a longer time to reach goals. I read some theory behind it, yet never found a proper tool. Mostly I write it down and track it nowadays, make aribitary dead lines on my calendar and measure the progress at best. I don't do all of this consistently, yet this really helped me. Look at my LP goals daily. The LP goals are basically the higher vision goals. I do have a vision board. (no dreamboard yet ) and I visualize my current goals. Yet, Istill don't take daily action tracking has helped me to stay consistent over a weekly basis mostly or monthly. Yet, some goals require more effort on a daily basis more. The book/tool above helped the most till now when it comes to taking consistent action on a daily basis, what has helped you the most to take consistent action on a daily basis to reach and achieve your goals?

@LastThursday I've been going out more and more and generally still and really have issues with people who are into academia and socializing, it's like some people make it a loose-loose scenaroy in case you are not part of their social groups behaviour. As many others are just open-minded and cause more win-win scenarios. I took a course online and I speed ran it I think I did not even take notes, as I felt sort of scammed, yet I noticed it now more how important it is and I intuited it's very important to know that stuff as it's adressed towards people who want to lead at the cutting-edge and who are interested in integral theory and all the ken wilber stuff. What I notice when I look at the map of the 5 laws of stupidity and consider the course is. That it's never mentioned it's a polarity and you could make a polarity map almost out of the map of the video. As everyone goes through all of these quadrants it's important to notice it's a polarity basically smth. like this. I do feel also this map is very applicable to the map above, it looks complex and! It is really not complex. https://sixseedpartners.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Blog_PolarityMaps5_Seriously-Lightly-702x526.png These are sort of polarity maps. Thanks for sharing the video! I never would have come up with the idea to share this idea and information. https://universityinnovation.org/wiki/Resource:Polarity_Mapping My point basically is when the 5 laws of stupidity are applied there is a polarity you will inevitabely glide through all quadrants and find yourself at one more, using a polarity map would show that it's important to focus on an upward movement of the polarity. As this loop or infinity symbol in the picture I posted above shows, if it would be placed lower there negative dynamic would be more in place. As the polarity would move more backwards and forwards inside the negatively listed quadrants of the map. This can be contrasted with everything. Social vs unsocial. Justice vs. unjustice, feminine vs masculine, globalization vs nationalism, inside vs outside, individual vs. collective, conservative vs progressive. Each has upsides and downsides the important part is moving the dynamic more upwards towards the positive. As the map in the video is not fully laid out to be a polarity map it's biased towards one quadrant. All I want to say is it's a dynamic and that it is important to see that this happens, a polarity map displays this not sort of so absolutist quadrant view and is still free of interpretations mainly. To give a personal example I am going out more and more and I notice I focus more on the social negative sides of the feminine that I do not like instead of the positive and mainly focus on the positive masculine polarity/dynamic. Assertivness, dominance, providing, protection, leading, confidence, more active Instead of the more negative ones. For e.g aggression, domination, unstable, abuse of power, control, hyper competitivness, physical violence etc. I barely notice the positive feminine support, caring, intuitive, creative, kindness, nuturing etc. and notice more the negatives witholding, manipulation, victimhood, over sentimental and over sensetive, neediness. I do notice as everyone has these qualities that it's not so easy to move into the positive polarity consistently where I feel you'd mostly feel the positive qualities which would automatically create a win-win. My masculine side also appreciate this a lot when I receive positive feminine care etc. Emboyding as well as transiently experiencing any of these emotions more often would lead to more intelligent people regardless of sex, color and creed etc. That would be my take on the video. Got me thinking because I am going out more... thanks for sharing! Hope this is informative and useful!

@Illusory Self Found the perfect article. https://www.businessinsider.com/foods-that-might-be-giving-you-acne-2018-1#:~:text=Eating lots of refined carbohydrates,which theoretically may worsen acne.

@Illusory Self What I noticed is that when I eat less refined grain/carbs and eat whole carbs and eat less sugar my skin improves especially my face, unsure what is the reason for this. I sometimes get pimples when I eat to much sugar and regular wheat/ refinded carbs. I did a course and a section of the course about nutrition said to cut out white wheat stuff completely. White rice, noodles that are not whole wheat etc. I did this already because Michael569 gave me the tipp. So that helped me to deal with unneccessary pimples additionally to eating healthy. I watched some video ago also on gym advice. I sometimes wore my gym shirt two times in a row when I did not sweat a lot, yet there is an oily substance called sebum that can clog up poores in your skin, so I had some pimples or skin disturbances on my shoulder. Can't find the video, yet the stuff gathers in gym shirts and is cleaned through hot water, so basically washing it. So it get's in your poores when not washing the shirt. Hope this is useful!

@Anon212 No experience, yet definitely would love to go out with someone like this.

INFJ - 4w5. OCEAN: O- 80-96 percentile C - 20 percentile E - 30-40 percentile A - 76 percentile N - 50-60 percentile This is also interesting systems thinking and mbti. https://thesystemsthinker.com/a-new-path-to-understanding-systems-thinking/

@Loba Thanks for explaining ??.

I do run in some issues while attempting to learn game. From going out in my 100k city. The city does have a decent night life. Yet I see the same people over and over again. Which has advantages and disadvantages. Competition is also rough. Military guys with a sh*t ton of money who all have a lot of status and girls are out for them. Spending money like if it was nothing. Not all of it is real etc. Also there is a shit ton of battery. Recently someone got stabbed and my friend tried to revive the guy. People start greeting me now especially guys as they all are looking to get laid and sort of this subconscious pact builds of who knows a good place and girls etc. Some guys just hug me and people really love to drink with me, which makes it difficult not to drink. Some guy gave me expensive parfume while I took a piss to even smell better. A girl she was very unattractive spend me a drink last time. Bar keeper women keep flirting with me even if it's for fun and not the extra tipp. As well as starts leaning against me making physical contact. Mostly they are hot I seem to have a very comforting vibe. People ask me to go out into clubs when they re-open. The main point is I really do nothing. Guys just come to me think I am cool for some reason and wanna talk. I always also get these deep conversations about life in a 1 on 1 situation. Even though I think this is so superficial after doing psyches etc. Mostly I never meet again with the guys. I feel should I ask for guys numbers? I basically have the option to be picky since I already know two naturals who get laid a lot. Yet these are my only options, yet they really go out a lot. I like deeper bonds and quality wings in that sense, yet really nobody knows game here. It's just socialization and befriending women. Since people know each other approaching sometimes feels extra scary. As people pass by they are like fk it they'll come back the group comes back etc. What can I do when I feel just sort of as a secondary character when going out? I am mostly bored when I do not drink. I generally still lead drunk or not drunk. As people seem to have trouble making decisions where to go etc. What to drink etc. I am so busy with myself I struggle to open up and let go. I can make an effort to just still talk to girls, yet tbh conversations come quiet easy to me. I really struggle rather to get laid and approach and deal with the whole modern mating ritual. After being rejected I feel a bit scared approaching as I am the only one doing it. It all feels a bit to civil. Also guys keep telling me their secrets etc. Which is odd. How social do you guys think I am? I am not good at "external perception" or how others perceive me.