ValiantSalvatore

Everything can be an addiction even socialization. Harmony is way more important in that sense. I don't think people are that simple that you can put them all under the rug and just say cannabis is bad and dangerous. I easily can be addicted to socilization and talk and converse with others for hours if they know something and it's in a sense the same stuff. There are to many double standards to beginn with. I'd personally say this thread is misleading and the structure and reasoning of it not clearly outlined and explained. I don't know what is damaged. What is hurt. Why I should not do it besides some communcal/public complaint. The doctors also looked so unlikeable and heavily invested in science bias. I did not look at the video. It's a serious topic most likely, yet I miss the earnest discussion and not a social condemnation hate thread and outcry for power and some sort of justice.

It's an impossible ideal to not use anything for a stimulus. I would need to quiet everything by that logic lol.

If this is interesting just as a biological/health phenomena to you. If read that in adults somewhere somehow the interconnectivity of the brain is stronger, yet smaller somehow so less knowledge overall? Yet more connected. I find this interesting when I spoke to Shinzen as he was a chronic cannabis user and this guys memory and alertness is as sharp as a knive at age 70. No taking anything daily is not that good, I would like to use cannabis more sporadic as medicine this is how it think it should be used, yes I admit I am prone to smoking a lot as I struggle with finding proper stimulation. So I dunno the issue is a larger one, if I had proper socialization and proper peers I would not smoke cannabis, yet for me personally the use of language already makes the difference lol, so I just enjoy it. I agree it's damaging. Yet spreading the message of weed is dangerous and bad is just bad marketing imo and creates the agenda of war against drugs, against of rasing awarness as well as some better stratgey to go for what you think is correct, I would never consider such a thread if it would not be for the .org as well as consider the position and vote against it. Because it smells like to much bias and no room for experimentation, I can't even test cannabis properly for daily use. So how am I supposed to judge it? As it's illegal lol!

There are billions of double standards just thinking about this issue makes it clear people just want to have their own world gratified, just let people do what works and what seemingly does not work, there are larger issues than weed consumption, if anything it is more of a symptom of impoverished as well as "rich" circumstances and in the end the people who get addicted truely go down the trenches. That has been my experience many people who smoke cannabis I've meet are independent and have more of a vein for artistry and interest in that. There are so many stereotypes involved with cannabis use it is hypocritical, as well as many of these stereotypes are just negative and come from blue/orange domains of thinking which can't properly distinguish higher from lower. I can frame everything into a health quadrant and completely forget the subjective and cultural part as well as dynamic, you'd basically had to prohibit alcohol also, people should be free to use whatever substance they want to ingest themselves as idea in itself, obviously the living entity should not be permanently damaged, yet this is not possible. I am unsure what this discussion is about, as it basically is just a form of adjustment. I bet I would hire a lawyer on cocain if I need to and I don't have the money for anything else and I got into some trouble on accident or some shitty grey area legal situation. There should be laws in place for repercussions in use, if shit like this ever gets allowed, people over do it and are not responsible, I could I never did drive a car high on LSD, as well as I drive when on cannabis illegal. I drive better than 99,9% of people and I still get mad at people on the streets. If skill does not convince someone I don't know what will. If someone can take a substance and comeback normally and there is no compelling addicition and not a permanent very negative damage present, then it's fine. Coffee is as addictive as cannabis, and I bet globally coffe would do more damage. I bet people in Sri Lanka could produce paper if they would use hemp plants for production or smth. I dunno sometimes I just think people want to kill themselves. So it does not really matter taking any medicine and or not in a larger sense...

Freelancing can pay of also I had coding classes in high school and a friend of mine stopped his entire school trajectory and started coding and earning money moving out of his family house when he was 18 or so moving to Berlin. I am unsure how hard it is to move into freelance, as I have no idea how good my skills area from just coding Uni stuff and projects and not more real-world projects. Living a life of adventure is definitely possible, I struggle with this too as I have a lot of interesets. This is why I like engineering it actually is more interesting than I thought and I never wanted to be an engineer. Anyway.. hope I don't install some false shit possible lol. What about ideas of starting ones own accounting firm as a service etc? You can even offer your employees qigong/meditation etc. for free for example from you or some person you know etc. I am unsure how much freedom you have by law when creating a business, stuff is more strict here in the E.U lol.

I am unsure as what the situation is as I care less and less about my survival as my degree forced me to learn about all of these skills coding/business creation and marketing. Outside sources and creating on your own is way more important. Imagine I had professors with their own company hiring students etc. because of talent helping them find their own independence either through skill/business creation that is mainly his goal as a professor. Freedom is not cheap yes I would personally never learn accounting as I was forced to do it and I am okay at it, I just hate order. The amount of carreer jumper stories I heard especially in the U.S for tech it's incredible, the courses online are also very streamlined in comparrision to a lecture, the issue is time and energy. As well as perspective, I am unsure sometimes how far people think. It would personally for me be interesting what you'd learn from this so called marketing course as american PD industry is hypocritical as fuck, and creating a business is a skill of it's own imo when I see observe business owners and marketers. I am in the same boat of getting out of wage slavery I have ideas for multiple assets. Going 100% into business with accounting skills is legit the best thing you could possibly do, as you have power and know-how over data. This is what drives business imo. I am no expert just here with an opinion... The value and product/service provided should speak for itself imo at best, so there would also not be all to many stings of remorse if this makes sense. This is what I like about working business in China, people got what they wanted, nobody controls desire.. really...

I dunno I've read approx above 200+ books in my life including audiobooks here. Without counting online articles, videos, podcasts, online-courses, documentaries, infotainment, learning app, edutainment courses(soft skills, psychology 101 etc.) etc. I talked to a couple of members at integral did not have the opportunity to meet Ken as I feel a strong connection towards his writting and experience as I am also a military kid. I dunno the more I read the more I notice how knowledge is repetetive and execution can matter and at the sametime must not matter more than knowledge. Most of knowledge is memory so to speak if anything I experienced I had was based on omniscience. Wilber wrote about all of these states endlessly. As far as I know and observed he never took psychdelics and they generally had the slogan of unearned consciouness is valueless, the point is he also admits later and even earlier IIRC that these things have a lot of potential and can be used with caution etc. Just there is no hard evidence etc. I am saying thins with my own words. I do think knowledge is overrated nowadays with fast streamed information finding principles and paradigms in the thousand of books and concepts that aid survival and transcendence of survival, often times it is a re-guritation of facts and the principles and concepts serve as a new meta level for larger abstractions which display higher truths etc. I don't think knowledge/experience/ontology? is as static as it seems. Reading 400 books+ is an impressive feat imo the value of knowledge for me is only palpable when I can execute and act on it, otherwise it's good entertainment and that is important too! Often times my own thinking and hunches would have given me better results if I would act on my experience and mistakes, my own book and life story so to speak instead of hiding behind the vail of knowledge in fear of showing a higher self etc. I can speed read for example an easy book a day and re-gurtitate the most important content depending on technique and practice with more and less accuracy as I trained this as well as I wanted to still refine this. I did some speed reading exercises with Wilber books and I read ROT in a week or two in 14+- sessions? With 20 minute sessions with 10 min note taking notes etc. Just getting back into the habit of reading difficult topics fast. Filtering core eternal concepts and interconnecting this takes the most time. I did not read the notes at the end, just the core book and theory. Wilber has an entire series of his biography for free on integrallife about his life I could not bring myself to watch it even if I love the guy. It is compelling, yet he can talk so long and so much also. Wilber should have written about omniscience/ontology?/knowledge I never studied it that deep, as I mostly just corrected what people wrote here about integral theory as nobody is really passionate about integral theory, most are nerds and cracks at integral or to normie. Here it is a nice cross-section. Hope this aids the conversation somehow. Imo there should be a distinction made between what is knowledge and omniscience based on spirituality and what it means to value either and the other and how they interconnect, as this is what I am experiencing more and more a bit at least... For example you have a vision/hunch about life out of nowhere a moment of clairvoyance with imagery and the exact thing becomes true or/and leads to a closer similar "truth"/experience etc.

Most definitely!

@Razard86 The book "blue truth" from david deida was quite shocking to read and you summarize basically the whole book as well as what I remember lol. It's nice to read a concisce summary of the book in sorts. I have the issue of I love my feminine mind for example and it's endless flow states, yet masculine control I feel like I am Thanos 4.0 leading even on a small scale imo is a huge task! Balancing these freaking polarities I basically have the experience of what you wrote. Nice read! Thanks for the post.

Found this video with some tool on YouTube on how to create Art with A.I. --- Posting on intuition here did not read 17 pages as I am not that interested in A.I art making, more watching lol.

I think it's okay if you disconsider the context of what he has done, and he did not really talk much about trump. I also think JP is way better than Maga Trump. I often think he does not find the right people to express his views and these talks are so endless, the video almost says nothing if nobody followed the context fully. It would be better if he speaks to someone like Schmachtenberger or so, nobody understands JP I think. If I watch the video without audio and I imagine what he is saying it's quiet funny he should speak with this stuff with a serious democrat in a sense, I guess he is just angry that he seems to be unable to reconcile something in his life. I do not like him personally very much, yet I do have sympathy for him.

Hey! I just wanted to ask if there is a valid test somewhere where you can see on which stage you are in Spiral Dynamics. I've been listening and reading more or less a lot or not about Ken Wilbers theory and spiral dynamics. I found some research about the validity of Jane Loveingers Ego Development test which is accepted by scientists, yet the test apparently needs a revision. There are a couple of papers about this topic. Yet, I do not have the knowledge or know-how to understand everything in there. Ken Wilbers tends to say in his audiobooks that you can find some test online and take it, first of all I only find german sites and they tend to push your results. So, I would be turquoise, integral and green. When I take a test which was in Don Becks Audiobook Spiral Dynamics to find out which stage you are at I scored differently. So, where can I find a good or somehow valid test ? Or how can I check out which stage I am at when I go through live and reflect about the stuff I heard and read I am affraid of an orange capitalist society which is status based and does everything to ensure it's status quo, abusing the efficiency of people for their own benefits while it does benefit others to a degree. I tend to think about which stages my professors are at and if that makes sense what I am reading about spiral dynamics / wilbers theory or justifies their behaviour. When I look at a healthy orange, and if Ken Wilbers theory is somehow valid/true/useful/partially true or w/e then it would play out like this. Since green is the dominant value structure every stage tends to adopt these values in their structure. So, an orange person would interpret green values through an orange pair of glasses and therefore filter it through an orange perspective. So, multi-culturism is accepted empathy and compassion is valued and opinions of other people and viewpoints are respected / accepted and tolerated. To give an example with blue.. as long as people adopt the rules that are present in their country they "can" be regarded as one group, although this does not entirely work imo. So, I want to give a personal example since I can't find any tests which seem good/valid, I worked in a post-production company in London which is a financial city and worked there near Soho ( where most banks are ? (orange move)) and worked there 10 m away from the Tower Bridge. The post-production company was very orange success and achievment driven, equality was based on the fact that women have the same capacity to be as succesful as men and people where treated fairly. ( not like green where gender roles and ideas are perceived as a social construct). My boss seemed to be or have some integral tendencies, this guy liked chaos was super unassuming, enjoyed Allan Watts and was not the slightest authoritative, only to the degree where it was neccesary and really enjoyed listening to perspectives while not listening to them since he has to and this is culturally accepted now. He just seemed to be in a constant flow. Yet, he was also quite materalistic since this was the film industry, so he had to adjust his behaviour to other people who seemed to only care about their status and success and making some business deals which benefit them and he was quite good at it and also still quite young. So, I can't tell if this guy was orange or integral. Yet, walking through the city and doing some small errands since it was a classic shitty internship. I could see how money orientated and self-interested these people were they would do anything even use racism or sexism to advance their position, so reverting back to red or some other stage ( unconsciously?) only to gain an advantage over other people and ensure their success. When I meet orange people at Uni they seem similar as long as they have some blue tendencies pure orange is pleasant, yet the coldest most rational driven persona you can meet. Anyway where can I find a test ??

Do any of you guys go regularly to museums and enjoy art? I wondered how an expert artist would buy any of these, it's basically just porn imo. Without a story line and context. When I see all of this digital art you can still edit them after the fact, that they have been created, I am pretty sure there will be tools for that, considering creating logos/symbols/art for games etc. Sometimes the biggest mistake from an artist or so might make the painting seem very good, yet sort of still apprecating the limits of what the human can draw I dunno I've been to a couple of art exhibitions in major places in the art world and I know someone personally who is a professional succesful painter drawing with Andy Warholes techniques, not speaking to him, yet knowing him, it's a massive threat to skill itself imo. I just don't think skill can so easily outsource itself as well as the greed sort of for the tool, there are already codeless enviroments with U.I generative tools, that created a new emerging demand and market with U.I researchers/ HCI and the likes of this is basically the same issue of something creative being outsourced to a new toolbox. I just think more lightly about this topic and it will be a toolbox, when used with caution and I doubt most people are that wise and intelligent lol. I am pretty sure someone will abuse it and people will learn and set a constraint like in any enviroment...

Yeah according to socionics it's a benefit I just like the way they put it. It's all just experience with bias in a sense anyway.

True in my personal experience, I get along with intutives the most that means also logical intutives although worlds differ vastly, it's usually very fun as open-mindedness is just fun usually. That is also a good big5 trait to consider... when dating and also beign high in openess ... these models won't matter when novelty is not stimulated for example. Overall I this is mainly relationship work not very good for dating itself, just measuring compatabillity. I don't walk around typing people all of the time, it's mostly "NPC'S" I type shop keepers, the vendor lady/guy, the architect, construction worker etc. Hope I made this clear and I don't attack a single type. As this get's personal usually quite fast. I also want to hone my skills in this as this is "dealing with people skills", so it comes in handy in more "objective/neutral" situations as well as just friendships and partnerships/communities etc. Socionics looks interesting too I like the compatability of INFJ with ISFP and ESTP as artisans that is true imo, wtih SE,NI.

I am not drawing technical conclusions I think there are flavours to all of this I read socions way way way back once or twice back on odd forums, so I did not like it so much and mainly looked at cognitive stacks I am just going to list a couple of things and explaing that I am aware of socionos, yet have no idea about it besides coginitive stacks and their functions, I dunno if they are seperate theory. I feel as an INFJ 4w5 there are a lot of dynamics in terms of compatabillity without explaining anything in detail. I am mostly matching main types of others from each model. This is mainly my intuition and personal experience. Everything in braces I think can vary tremendously by type. I am mostly intuitive about this I don't have much conceptual readings besides tests and internet pages and infografics/ my own contemplations etc./data/studies/youtub videos/biology of mbti and enna etc. Compatability INFJ: Very good: ENFJ, INFJ, INTJ, INTP, (ENFP/INFP/ESFP/ISFP), ISFJ Good: ENTJ, ESFJ, ISTJ, ISTP, ISFP, ENTP, ENFP, (ISFJ,ESFP,ESTP) Okayish: ESTP, ESFP, ESTJ, ESFJ, ISTJ (ISTP,ISFJ,ISFP, ENTJ), Not good: ESTJ (ESTP/ESFP/ISTP) Compatability Ennea 4: Very good: 4,9,2,3 (6) Good: 5,1,6, (8) Okayish: 7,8 Not good: (All could be shit for a 4) Compatabillity Ennea subtype 5: Very good: 1,7,8 (4,6), 5 Good: 6, (9,5), 4 Okayish: 3, (9), 2 Not good: 9 Compatabiltiy Ennea 4w5: Very good: 4w3,3w4, 2w3, (5w4 all 8 types if mature including 9w8), 9w1, 6w5, 1w9, 4w5 Good: 3w2, 2w3, 5w4, 1w9, 8w7, 7w8, 2w1, 1w2,7w6, 4w5, (6w7?) Okayish: (3w4,3w2), 1w9, 8w9, 9w8, 5w6 Not good:(All could be shit for this sub-wing type as you are basically a free spirit) No idea: 5w6, 6w7(Dr Keith Witt from Integral I love him, yet I never meet this type besdies from him consciously)

Yeah the booklist can be found in the products section, maybe something unfortunate happend to the account. If you do not see the list and have a receit of the purchase message Leo for the list, I am pretty sure you will gain access immediately. I have the list also for a couple of years now and did not have any issues so far.

https://www.youtube.com/user/PaulChekLive/videos I like him he talks a lot about what stuff actually is I bought his book also I am not done reading and implementing it. I've done some parts of integral courses that include health topcis, this goes deeper in general for a cleaner channel of information. I dunno what else to share at integral for example I learned how mindfulness is applied to eating/dieting/training/my pallet/ how I eat etc. Then something like Peter Ralston or Paul Check are more teaching from an embodied living of consciouness as well as Paul Check teaches more about health/food/diet etc. I like his approach for example I did not know I increase my level of "fungual (negative) activity" when I receive a narcoses, IIRC because vaccine has a strong effect etc. I can recommend his book as a beginner as it's focused on concepts and goals and creating a health vision. Not technical mumbo-jumbo ( which is interesting etc) of how much vitamin c,d,e and B12 I have to take etc. For example he explains how different cultures/civilizations rather have developed their pallet and there are trends for example people living near the equator ate more vegetable food and depending on genetics etc. You can also have a preference I am very flexible for example I can eat according to him everything, easiest to feed hardest to train was his analogy. As I am not an equator type person etc. So I liked this also I generally see seldom holistic health practicionars talk about gene health. I don't even know if that is possible, because of epigenetics but okay. I am also still new to this, as I can't really practice due to injury.

I dunno why it has to be so complicated in terms of content. I think op just wanted to express appreciation of beauty and frame it in a way how most men in a manosphere would understand it currently, as it's a mess. For a guy to "max out" on beauty is advice given in every PD book, the bigger perspective is appreciating beauty. I also think this is what OP is enjoying and wants to pinpoint to, as many guys would misinterpret this. Enjoying for example as a man ones own strength has a beautiful quality in itself. Definitely nice to see someone works for his results and reaps the benefits! I dunno there are many factors that hook women, I mean maxing looks as a good looking guy, especially when I do online-dating and considering results, it definitely works also creativity. Also a body also speaks character, so certainly a lot of ladies will enjoy physically attractive men, I can attest personally. Both sides fit and unfit. Definitely fit is more fun, yet mostly because you value health... and people often feel that energy.

True. Same I did not expect anything. Mostly curious what others are thinking.

Yeah the discussion always drifts when I contribute it does not matter even in rl. I wanted to contribute to sourcing mostly and state my opinion that is it lol.

Not all it was a quick Google search. I am not that interested in finding 5-Meo I was suprpised I found sellers on the clear net at all in 2 minutes. Seems like there is currently nothing at the current location I am at ??‍♂️. One website is apparently very well-known although I don't know if they sell 5-Meo-Malt, yet I prefer people do their own research. Customs here can also be an issue especially oversees. I was surprised it seemed nobody googled it and I found 5-7 offers as nobody explicitly said: "There are mostly scam sites on the clear net etc." As there seemingly are for 5-Meo. Ultimately I don't know if they really sell 5-Meo as I did not contact anyone, as well as I never ordered anything from these sites. The prices are odd on the website you mentioned, where you have to pay 300§+- for 10g 5-Meo-Malt. That website is apparently a total scam. Even the prices for 1V-LSD etc. are way to overtuned. It looks to good to be true and it is scam as far as I know currently. I am not interested in researching as well as sourcing 5-Meo currently.

I would also enjoy it if someone post more hard evidence. Only thing I ever found was the cook-greuter model. I never know if the numbers are correct and where they stem from, actually. If you want to test ego development you can still buy a cook-greuter test that is scientifically valid but costs like 2-3k € IIRC to check the stage if hard numbers. I take her numbers mostly as it coincides with Wilber skeptecism that he mentions, if paid attention to. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/356357233_Ego_Development_A_Full-Spectrum_Theory_Of_Vertical_Growth_And_Meaning_Making I posted this years ago. 12+% apprently according to her research and her model. This map is also good if you just like the theory, I bet you could destroy it also completely. Many are stuck in stage 4 imo. The numbers from their research in the year 2000's were lower then 2010's+. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/263483083_Mature_Ego_Development_A_Gateway_to_Ego_Transcendence

If you mean with really really high you are unable to do something productive in the normal surival sense then yes, this is possible. LSD is 100x stronger imo than any weed you can consume, also not smoking it makes it less exhausting of a psychdelic to take. Did LSD about 20-35 times. DMT I tried 3 times 1 time successfully I would say it's at least 1000x if not 10000x stronger there is no tangible contrast between the two. The experience is so different. Also from LSD, feelings might be similar, yet the experience head space, visuals, body high, internal geometry etc. is very different. I tried magic truffels once, they were also more potent, also 100x+-. The only thing they have in common is that they stretch consciouness/ego depending on how you can handle it. There is no comparrisson besides that weed is definitely the weakest and mildest form of a psychdelic you can take. In terms of it's effect. I like it currently after I have done psychdelics to deal with "anxiety" I am just basically comforting myself. You could also smoke pure CBD I bet or take another substance. Yet, anecdotally weed can help some with anxiety and cause it for some. If I had to compare my highest high and a normal psychdelic trip I would say the highest high feels to ego compressing you actively have to do a lot of work to realize anything. Although indica helps me to relax a lot. LSD or Shrooms are/seem way more benign and loving in comparrisson to cannabis. A normal trip would still be at least 10x more powerful than any super high you experience also with 100x clarity. As synthesis is really on on the substances. I tested some research chems also and I have to say LSD is by far the mildest and most loving thing I've tested out of all research chems in the LSD family, Al-LAD and ETH-LAD are similar in smoothness. 1P-LSD is by far the strongest derivate I've tried, stronger than LSD. ALD-52 and PRO-LAD were the weakest IIRC also not so comfortable as you could control the mind a lot with ego.

Can the mods delete this thread? After some testing the setup works fine, it's just very intense. I think the thread is to misleading.