Nexeternity

@Leo Gura I love the parts in the videos berating us ?. But then you shift back to being nice saying you need to be more inclusive ? It's good to polarize just don't end up totally alone ?

Hello! Haven't posted in forever. I am so happy to be able to share this! So I made some hippy friends 3 years ago that know a guy who lives off Prana... basically just through breathing air and absorbing nutrition straight from source. You also get nutrition through the sun and baths, your skin absorbs the water as if you drink it, its crazy. He did this 21 day process and then became a breatherian. And so this process is described by Jasmuheen in her book Living off Light, and they were organizing it near where I am living so I signed up! It was crazy... its one week with no food and no water, and two weeks with diluted orange juice with no pulp. The third day I was crying "I'm not spiritual enough for this" but we had a lot of support and the book helps you out a lot. I read a book by a German called Otto Buchinger that helped a lot, totally convinced me about the benefits of fasting. I couldn't find the book on Amazon... I had a spanish translation that someone had brought. The clarity you start getting during the fast is epic, its like you understand so much more, and things seem obvious. On the sixth night nobody slept, after a while its hard to sleep. You have crazy dreams... I dreamed once that during my whole life nobody really did anything that could really harm me, at least in my essence, like all the harm and trauma is illusory. On the last few days I could start seeing some visuals, like static, like the TV was starting to turn off or something. The world seemed a lot less real. On the 8th day when you get to start drinking I saw fractals open up like if I had taken some ayahuasca... and also one of the nights I tried visualizing a spirit giving me light, water, and air, and I fallout hallucinated the being... she seemed 40 years old, made of strings of light, and I felt she was like mother Gaia. Once the orange juice started I felt amazing. You could tell in my journal that my handwriting was neater and I started drawing a bit and coloring it, decorating. I tried drinking my pee and it was clean as water. I felt like I changed my body, including cleaning out memory that was stuck in there. There was another day I cried my heart out and it felt like some deep sadness was purified and cleaned out of my chest and I could breathe deeper. Out of the 10 that started, 7 finished. When I started eating I could feel my body take in the nutrition and absorb everything amazingly... my digestion was super good! There was something interesting that you pooped the first two days, and then on the 8th day when you started drinking orange juice you pooped again! Like it surprised me I still had so much solid crap inside me... Its really cool that fasting helps for everything, I am a skinny guy, and now I actually recovered my weight and more because my body is cleaner and can absorb nutrition from food better. I didn't feel like I could live off prana, but I did get a feel that I was definitely sustained by something more than food and water, that I was sustained by Source. I want to do a fast every year... its really transformative! Definitely worth investigating and practicing, I wouldn't do the 21 day process alone though, definitely need support. Thanks for reading

@Eternal Unity Great, havn't read that book @Theplay Awesome! Fasting is a huge field to investigate! Its really cool, I feel its just as valuable as psychedelics. @Osaid Yes! I guess once you are a guy living off prana then its not fasting anymore since that's just your lifestyle. @thepixelmonk I thought the same thing! But even Deepak Chopra in his book "Perfect Weight", which is mostly about losing weight within a traditional American lifestyle, even in that book at the end he says that there have been throughout history people that lived off prana. Fasting combined with prayer or spirituality is what really makes the difference.

Hey there! Ok... here is the setup of the ceremony. There was like 8 of us and the shaman with two lady helper shamanesses. We all get small burns on our arms, from 3 to 8 depending on peoples experience and the intensity they want. I got 3. My first time plus I am sensitive to all of the medicines. You drink two liters of water before hand. The idea is that the frog venom will make you release toxins into your system and they will be thrown up. You throw up and then drink up more water as fast as you can and throw up again. Repeat until you feel good again. So they offered Rape, a tabacco thats blown up your nose and has the effect of centering you and putting you in a meditative state. I got a dose of rape in each nostril and then I hear unexpectantly with my eyes closed "here comes the kambo" The shaman had put the medicine on my burns and everything got dark quite quickly... my body started heating up and I got tunnel vision. The shamans were making music and bringing people water and cheering us on as we threw up. It didnt hurt too bad, it was uncomfortable ofcourse but I was so focused on throwing up and drinking water that theres not that much reflection on the pain you might feel. Your hands might get a bit numb and your face puffs up a bit but nothing too drastic. After I felt great. Just lots of peace, quiet mind, you feel like you slew a dragon, like you got through a tough ordeal and made it out stronger. Really cleans you up. Apart from the physical purging, the idea is that you purge more things than just physical toxins, like fears, limiting beliefs, anything and everything that might make your path a bit darker instead of brighter. At the end you lay down and they offer to put Sananga on your eyes. Its this medicine that burns your eyes but is really amazing for them. It only burns alot for a bit and then it quickly calms down. It doesnt leave your eyes red or puffy or anything, it leaves them amazing! I wanted to go home and sleep after but my dad needed me to help him out and I was able to, somehow I went without rest and felt fine. Its left me clear and feeling good! It was cool, there were all types of people doing the ceremony from diferent backgrounds. Well thats all I got to say Happy holidays to everyone!

When I started using psychedelics- shamanic medicine, slowly I started loving myself more. Like really... I used to never thing I was really attractive or anything... and like the love is so crazy that you just start loving everything about you... and so... I started really loving my hair and letting it grow out. The beard too. I used to always spend money getting a cool haircut and get worried about my hair. Its really cool because it reminds me of the "path" of not caring what people think, of the transformation you go through... Its cool to deconstruct that systemic norm of having to have your hair a certain way. People judge you sometimes and stereotype you but when you talk to them and dont judge them for judging you, and just connect person to person they start seeing your just another regular guy who just decided to let his hair grow out.

@Tobia Hey! All great questions... valuable to enquire into them and dive deep into contemplations... but... I suggest trying to get a handle on practical things first... like just having a regular low key happy life. Get the basics handled. Its kind of the ground you need in order to be able to execute that amazing deconstruction work without going crazy lol. Just my 2 cents.

@VincentArogya There comes a point where you just want to sit down and be quiet... and then naturally you will start contemplating stuff again... and the you might get tired and just want to be quiet... and it cycles like that I think.

@ReneFranz This actually sounds good. Try and look at it as fear and emotion purging. When you have a grand vision and you know you are going to move foward and actualize it all the limiting beliefs that have to operate in order for you to be where you are and not further along need to be released, let go of, purged, retired. The beliefs served you up till now so dont feel bad about having them or be upset at them, just see them as structure that your ego built up that can now be let go of. Try and find a way to be happy when you feel fear, it means your alive and you are actually on your way to expanding yourself, getting out of your comfort zone. Just slow down and take it easy if it gets really bad. Ultimately loving yourself more is always the best thing you can do heh... cliche but had to add that

I like thinking more about what I would like to do if I could do anything... it really starts opening up your mind... and then from there then see how that thing you would like to do would change the world in 10 or 100 years.

Hey there! Have not posted in over a year. Crazy how time flies. So many changes... getting wrapped up in life. There are a few addictions I am working on, mostly subtle ones... and the work gets both easier and harder as time goes on. In general life is alot more happier but at the same time the slightest deviation from center feels like it brings instant karma! I find myself bumping into things when my mind wonders into negative territory or seeing bad things manifesting pretty quickly. Pride is still a big thing for me. I see that you get so much power with consciousness work and love, you can start shaping your reality so much more, but whenever I think I am better than someone else some bad thing happens to me pretty quickly. Recently I am seeing the wisdom of really, honestly, and genuinely feeling admiration and seeing the hidden master in all other people, they can show me my weakness, my inability to love, my lack of compassion and forgiveness, and any other lesson that the wisdom of a master tries to teach. Its been interesting. I have been living with a pretty hippy community and my interactions with the "outside world" have been incredible beneficial. Its great to link both the regular world and the hippy family community world together. Its like all things have benefits and lessons.

I am an aspiring musician. Picked up the violin less than a year ago at 30 years old as I was about 1/4th of the way through the life purpose course heh I want to try practicing today with this attitude: I dont want to get better I want to play exactly how I play And with time the consciousness expands and I play better. Through no will of my own.

@Haumea2018 Your tone is harsh and accusatory. The anti-psychedelic rhetoric really hurts the community, we support responsible use of them as medicines. If it's not your path that's fine but don't criticize the path harshly on here @LfcCharlie4 Leo rated his Loc Lower than what ramaji gave him, not higher. We don't tell kids to do psyches, we say somewhere in the mid 20s depending on maturity. A lot of people talk badly about psychedelics without ever trying them which is a shame.

@Chintan desai Kambo is really great, I did it about 7 times in about a year and a half and its been great for cleaning up the body and mind. I like to say that it does not have the "fireworks" of other medicines like ayahuasca, bufo, mushrooms or lsd, but it still helps you so much in moving foward in life. There is something about it that makes you disciplined and fearless about doing whats right for you. I heard that if you are over 70 or have heart problems then you shouldnt do it. Make sure its an experienced facilitator... someone from IAKP or somebody that trained in the jungle. Here is the website of the training site https://iakp.org/es/40-2/

@Sick Boy 1. You can find people that enjoy our silence. They can appreciate your presence. 2. Try contact improvisation. Its a type of dance that is done in silence. Lots of really nice spiritual folk dance it. 3. Try yoga or something else that you will be motivated to do, dance also. 4. Good! Thats not a problem, thats a good thing. You will just need to find people that are like you too. 5. You might miss out on some girls at first but in the end you will meet a lot of calm, spiritual, artistic and intelligent girls that will be much more nourishing for you then more normal girls.

Hey forum! Wanted to share again I had not worked with Bufo in over a year for many reasons but I finally got the chance to do it with an experienced shaman who has been working with medicines for 20 years and who I had the opportunity get to know over the past year. It was the craziest thing... I got to his house and purged tobacco... which I love because it makes me feel super bad ass to chug down a huge amount of tobaco tea which tastes nasty, but after throwing it up and then chugging water and throwing that up too, you feel amazing. Its a really cheap medicine too, which works great with my semi-hippy budget. Anyways, the crazy thing was that after this purge we were all talking for a bit and my anxiety started getting higher and higher as I felt the moment drawing near. I only stayed conscious in one of my 6 previous ceremonies, and that was after a vipassana retreat and sexual abstinence. Also my 5th trip was super dark and scary, an exoorcism type deal, I had been sleeping around with people I should not have been, and so you get all those energies stuck on you. At least thats how I feel it works for me. I backed out! Yea, I decided to do it another day... and then feeling kind of defeated but calming down and staying at the house... I told my friend that I kind of wanted to still do it but was unsure. He told me if I wanted to smoke a tiny bit so I could at least clear away that fear and feel good again. So I smoked some and the memories started coming back of how good this is, how much love and medicine is in this substance. So I decided to do it. And man, I was brought back into that psychedelic bufo space where things are hyper conscious. I felt like all the best intelligence the universe has to offer was firing on all cylinders on all dimensions of my being, mind, body, emotions, spirit... I started laughing and saying... "I forgot!" "Yes, this is what we all need!" My friend let me hug him and he told me "There is nothing you have to do, or hold on to. Let existence be, let it flower in you." It was sooo beautiful!! He also had this amazing "Ohm" music playing which was great. Then he played the flute and I danced so much! We talked about how crazy it was that I was so afraid and almost did'nt do it. He said that the ego structure is incredibly clever in its ways of blocking and sabotaging love and consciousness... crazy how that works! You definately have to be willing to go through some tough processes once you start working with medicines because once these processes are activated you cant really go back to the old ways of being. Having this private session with a guy Ive gotten to know alot over the past year was priceless. Such a diferent experience... really a blessing, and something I could have wished and dreamed would happen to me 3 years ago when I first heard of 5 meo and 2 years ago when I first tried it. Thank you all for being here to share with! Its really amazing to have this online community!! Cheers

@AwakenedSoul444 Thanks

Hey guys. Recently I read the Secret Chief https://maps.org/images/pdf/books/scr/scr.pdf and it motivated me to try lsd at home with photographs of my childhood. It was incredible. I could see my third eye in the pictures! I could see my innocence and my sense of wonder and adventure about life. Then I got to see the negative influences from my parents and society. How I lost my "naturalness" in the need to conform and also the scars of my subtle body. I could see many layers, the innocence, and also the fear and pain once I got older. I could see it in my parents photos too. Seeing that I cried and it felt very healing. I could see how we are all walking around wounded and it helped me feel compassion for myself and my parents and society at large. I felt like we are all an infinite interconected field, that the pain and damage is no ones fault, its just the evolution of consciousness and part of a healing process. I thought of a friend who likes sailing and thought "she just wants to sail". We all just want to explore and have adventures... Another thing I saw is the perfection of the processes that happened around me. From the birds, plants, and the people sorrounding me. It felt like I could see SO much information and perfect execution of processes all around me. Its like all of existence is one massive perfect infinite process. These are two prayers that help me: Lord, make me an instrument of your peace Where there is hatred, let me sow love Where there is injury, pardon Where there is doubt, faith Where there is despair, hope Where there is darkness, light And where there is sadness, joy O Divine Master, grant that I may Not so much seek to be consoled as to console To be understood, as to understand To be loved, as to love For it is in giving that we receive And it's in pardoning that we are pardoned And it's in dying that we are born to Eternal Life Amen And My Lord, I know not what I ought to ask of Thee. Thou and Thou alone knowest my needs. Thou lovest me more than I am able to love Thee. O Father, grant unto me, Thy servant, all which I cannot ask. For a cross I dare not ask, nor for consolation; I dare only to stand in Thy presence. My heart is open to Thee. Thou seest my needs of which I myself am unaware. Behold and lift me up! In Thy presence I stand, awed and silenced by Thy will and Thy judgments, into which my mind cannot penetrate. To Thee I offer myself as a sacrifice. No other desire is mine but to fulfill Thy will. Teach me how to pray. Do Thyself pray within me. Amen. I want to say that I read: I Reality and Subjectivity and The Eye of the I from David Hawkins and they were incredibly useful. In the trip I definately felt the higher enlightened states he talks about. And definately as David says in his books... Gloria in excelsis Deo! - (Latin for: Glory to God in the highest!)

I went through all his videos on Empowerment and Enlightenment and it helped me alot. Also went through and read his instagram account, great insights, widsom, inspiring stuff. One of his most powerful teachings that helped me was to think of negative emotions, doubts, fear, as lack beliefs that are "purging" Like if that negative thing I am feeling is something being brought to the surface to be cleared out or something like that. Its also cool how he teaches enlightenment without you needing to sit for long periods of time. He says you can just interrupt your thought stream and just do an excercise for 2 seconds many times a day and it will help for enlightenment experiences to dawn. Anyways cool stuff. But yea, just one resource out of many. Follow your guidance system, basically do what excites you, just dont close yourself off to one teacher and one path.

There is alot of cheating and lying we do to ourselves, even when we dont really do it on purpose. If we do it to ourselves ofcourse we wll do it to others. I feel like if you are unhappy and unfulfilled and something exciting shows up in your life you might jump on it even if it means betraying someone. In the highest Absolute sense there is no cheating... we are all one being and no person belongs to anyone anyways... agreements may change... But yea... in the relative sense its pretty ugly and hurtful.

@Leo Gura This is kind of a tecnicality but... in the conversations with god books Neale talks about not killing under any circumstance. I think he is talking about a sort of Obi One Kenobi thing like when he lets Darth Vader kill him. I kind of agree with you that sometimes you got to kill if pushed to the limits. What do you think about this? How do you reconcile this difference?

Hey Leo. I have a question... sometimes I have seen the power of love turn around negative relationships. Like when people have treated me badly I turned around and treated them well and it eventually led them to them treating me well too. Other times it has felt like I have let others abuse me or have felt like I gave too much to the point of feeling bad and having to close down and pull back. I feel its a fine line and I try to err on the side of giving and loving more. Its like being open and vulnerable is a beautiful thing that can do wonders in many situations but sometimes it feels like you over expose yourself to others who might hurt you. I feel like when you are totally alligned you can just bulldoze your way through everything with love transforming and uplifting people´s energy as you go but other times I have felt like I am just kidding myself and just overgiving or sacrificing. I guess honest communication with yourself and with others is the way to go, but its hard to know sometimes in the middle of a situation. Any thoughts on navigating this?

@winterknight Touche. Still if therapists were well versed in the use of psychedelics for therapy it would be an amazing combination. There is something about someone being completely present with you that is healing in its own right.

@winterknight @Leo Gura Hey guys, I feel the need to contribute to this conversation. I did three years of Freudian psychoanalysis (In Buenos Aires its very normal here) and while I saw many of the roots and causes of my problems there wasnt much room for deep transformation. I felt it helped me live with my neurosis instead of freeing me of it. I also felt an old school feel where the therapist would dogmatically hand down to me certain rigid ways of being to better "fit in" with society. It was done innocently and with the best of intentions but there was a lot of truth and authenticity lost in translation. The relationship is very vertical, they are in the position of power and have the knowledge and you are a patient being helped. Since then I have done Jungian therapy with visualizations and meditations which I felt were much more helpful and faster, more effective. I am also doing an alternative therapy where you breathe together in meditation as part of the session and you feel the things you have been talking about as sensations in the body that can be seen with much more clarity than if you only talked. Its really much better. And yes, I second what Leo says about the psychedelic trips being more effective. The purification that happens, the literal "seeing" of your normally hidden beliefs, the authentic you that comes foward on the trips and shows you what you are really made of existentially. If used properly growth can occur so much quicker than in psychotherapy. Right now I am combining the best of both worlds. I am doing sessions using Yopo with a shaman, I trip and I get to talk about things with this dude I really resonate with.

@Shaun Hey man! I hope you dont do it. Suicide hurts all of us. A month ago I was on a subway and a kid jumped. I saw many people crying and I myself felt horrible. Then there is all the good you can still do. Usually when people that are depressed make it through they have much richer emotional systems then other people who were never depressed. It will all end up playing in your favor in the end. Hope you feel better soon.

Great stuff. I did it with a Shaman in a one on one session. It came on slow, and it felt like it was a mix of ayahuasca and bufo alvarius but not so overwhelmingly strong. It last 20 - 30 minutes with light effects for a few more hours after that. The most memorable part of the trip was looking down, like if I was looking at the dephs of hell and then deciding to look into that and seeing that it was made out of love. So crazy that evil, hell, darkness and all that bad stuff is made out of love. Everything is truly a miracle