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Echoes replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Oh wow. Are you the wokeness police around here? lol My point is that whatever reality is, it is that thing. That thing isn't a word for sure. I'm not trying to dismiss love here or saying that the universe is dumb. But there is no need imo to call war or murder love. It's just war and murder. To call it reality or just something that happens feels more true than to call it love. Imagine if all of reality would be water in all directions and dimensions. Would you say that war and murder is wet in this case? "It's all wet!". But it doesn't matter because there is no other substance anyway, so wet compared to what? It's not wet, it's just what is. If you can't compare love with anything, it's just reality. -
Echoes replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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Echoes replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Zen is Zen -
Echoes replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Leo Gura So Zen agrees that a mountain is a mountain and not love? "Mountain" = "Mountain" "Mountain" =! "Love" -
Echoes replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Leo Gura I don't know what love is anymore to be honest. In the past I understood it to be something positive, just like most other humans probably. A satisfying, affectionate and exciting feeling. Seems what's positive is only in relation to what I think I want. The dictionary mostly defines the word "Love" in these terms. But if you include everything as being Love, these definitions and understandings of this word do not make sense anymore. My questions: Why even use the word "Love" for describing existence? It seems misleading and confusing to the conventional understanding of the word. And ultimately reality is no word. Similar problem with the word "God". Reality is Reality. Reality is not love. A tumor is a tumor. A tumor is not love. Everything is just itself, why ascribe some ultimate goodness to it? Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that things like disease, torture, rape just are reality/life instead of using this vague word? -
@tashawoodfall Sorry for just posting a video, but she explains this topic in a really great way. Can also recommend her Emotional Mastery series
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Echoes replied to luckieluuke's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
If I am not mistaken, the AI "cheated" in the sense that it was not affected by Fog of War. Is that correct? Still impressive tho -
Echoes replied to Paul92's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Paul92 There is obviously nothing wrong with that. But what led you here if you were happy with everything you had? -
amazing video
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Echoes replied to Paul92's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Are you angry at the doctor for telling you that you have a disease? He just made you aware of it If the doctor is wrong, that can lead to disaster. Be glad that if Leo is wrong that's not a disaster because you have the tools to think for yourself -
Echoes replied to Aakash's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Aakash Why are you not going to continue doing Kriya Yoga? Just curious. Did you see results? -
nice one. You might like the book "Finite and Infinite Games: A Vision of Life as Play and Possibility" A few quotes from the book: “The issue here is not whether self-veiling can be avoided, or even should be avoided. Indeed, no finite play is possible without it. The issue is whether we are ever willing to drop the veil and openly acknowledge, if only to ourselves, that we have freely chosen to face the world through a mask.” “Some self-veiling is present in all finite games. Players must intentionally forget the inherently voluntary nature of their play, else all competitive effort will desert them.” “[...]Therefore, poets do not 'fit' into society, not because a place is denied them but because they do not take their 'places' seriously. They openly see its roles as theatrical, its styles as poses, its clothing costumes, its rules conventional, its crises arranged, its conflicts performed and its metaphysics ideological.” “A culture can be no stronger than its strongest myths.”
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Caring because you think you have to or otherwise you think you are: arrogant, guilty, egotistical, narcissistic, a bad person => Is not real "caring" because it's based on a feeling of obligation. That's just you faking something and feeling resentful for feeling obliged to be a fake. Caring as obligation and pressure feels like hell. Caring because you see that everybody is just slowly going to die, lose everything and everybody they love feels like healthy "caring" for me because it's based on compassion. Go to a mall or some crowded place and see that they are all dying, and that they are all aware of it on some level and are deeply terrified of that. Caring as intimate feeling of compassion feels like love. Why would you want to be in that "asshole-not-caring" state if you deeply see that everybody already has it hard enough behind the social fake facade
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@Preetom I believe we are in terrain now where language is reaching it's limit. I want to thank you for the honest talk! enjoyed it and learned something
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@Preetom 'Liberation' might be a more accurate concept. But if liberation really is possible it can only be from the desire of wanting to be alive. As long as the desire to survive is active the fear of death must be active also. Only if I don't care anymore about cancer, aids, alzheimers, losing arms/legs, becoming blind/deaf, homelessness, losing everything, old age - can I be liberated. Then I don't need the term "enlightenment" anymore, I just need to acknowledge that all of this can literally happen and there is no escape.