Echoes

This is deaths life

@daniel695 It's the same with Alien abductions for example. Very hard to differentiate if real aliens abducted the person or it was psychotic hallucination. It requires a very high and subtle level of discernment to distuingish real and unreal in these cases. The current paradigm of western psychology doesn't allow these things to be real, so it discounts all as psychotic episodes. But that's the same attitude as the Church who refused to look through galileos telescope

@electroBeam The way I reconciled this so far is in seeing this reality as a materialism simulation. Reality is not absolutely material, but we seem to have here a very, very, very, very authentic simulation/hologram of how it would be if materialism is the truth of reality. And things like "how can it be that the monitor is exactly the same when I look at it again?" is just underestimating the intention of the simulation to appear real. This force of [making something that is not true appear as if it's not true] is infinitely intelligent and is outsmarting even god in a sense. It's a huge mistake to underestimate the power of deception

@PsiloPutty Omegle is also a great tool for the same reasons.

@vibrate Could you elaborate more on why you wouldn't do it again? I'm curious. Was the jobmarket not as you expected? The field not as interesting as you thought?

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@OnceMore Ultimately, life may be not about collecting as much crumbles of pleasure/success as fast as possible. Everybody has their own lifepath with its own unique lessons. What helps me in these kind of situations is to contemplate the temporary nature of it all. Everybody is going to die and lose everything. If you see clearly that your brother is going to die, if you see his mortality, his fragility behind the facade of the social super-achiever, that can help in a situation like this to re-cognize feelings of compassion and love. No success/girlfriends/jobs are going to protect him or anybody from death, so in that we are all equal.

@OnceMore The anger arises because the posessions of your brother making conscious that you seek ego-gratification in these things. No problem with wanting to have a gorgerous girlfriend, but what is your motivation behind that? You yourself think that you deserve these things, because you think you worked for it. If you don't have them, you don't deserve them. Life does not owe you anything, and nobody ever said that it is a fair game. So what are you going to do about that? You have only these options: Try to get what you want. Or Wait until you get what you want, because you think you deserve it. And if life doesn't give it to you, spiral down into resentment and envy. You have to confront the thing in you that feels entitled to get what it wants. Life is showing you this with your brother. You are angry/resentful/bitter at him because it is trggering the entitled brat in your own unconscious. There is no actual lack, and the belief in lack blocks us to see that there is enough for all of us.

@JJR Do you have a Kindle Paperwhite? Or one of these more tablet like Kindles? (Fire I believe) I wonder if this is also possible with the non-tablet like versions.

@Shin I can only see in others what I have in myself somewhere, either consciously or unconsciously. I don't even know the specific people Charlotte is describing. But yes, I think making those things visible in ways that show the absurdity can help. I don't know if "critizing" is the correct term in this example, I prefer "highlighting self defeating and absurd behavior"

@Charlotte I think there are also "Psychological Territory" factors at play. Like a lion, that marks his area by peeing at a tree, so people want to be special and mark their mental territory by expressing what they know, and how developed they are. Much like emo kids in highschool. What they actually doing is just mentally pissing at a tree

@Shroomdoctor I just read the book without taking notes, just underlining stuff. After a week I come back to the book and make mindmap and notes on the underlined stuff. And then, in certain time intervalls, I skip through my folder of mindmap/notes to catch any interesting interconnections.

@Shin Just become Dr. Manhattan, then you don't need any support anymore

According to the ancient yogic time cycles, we are at the end of Kali yuga; the darkest of all times. Out of this age, when the collective suffering becomes to extreme (maybe through some sort of a catastrophe) the paradigm of the ego collapses under it's own weight. Basically what is often happening on the individual level. After that, a new cycle of wisdom and love can arise (Sat Yoga). Because before something really, really bad happens, and unless there is a catastrophic situation of some sort that is not solvable with the current level of thinking/consciousness, the human mind is not open for any change or new input.

@electroBeam there is a buddhist saying that goes something like this: "What a person is saying is his karma, how you are reacting is your karma." So imo, admitting being wrong is the "right" thing to do. The anger of the other person is only your problem if you let it be so. The question is, why are you letting the anger affect you so much? This is where I would look and investigate.

@sgn I'm having a challenge this year to read 1 book per week. What I'm doing is reading the book, underline stuff that resonates with me and that I find useful. Then I'm reading next weeks book. After 1 week has passed (In which I have read the new book) I come back to the "old" book from the previous week, create a mindmap on 1 piece of paper and a summary of the underlined stuff and the message of the book in general on another piece of paper. So 2 pieces of paper maximum. I find the break in between pure reading and then after 1 week coming back to it helps in letting the information process and sink in.

@JustinS As far as I know, one of the goals of Yoga is to reach a sattvic state mind. I would guess Ayuverda is a good assistance in that endeavor. To know the correct sattvic diet and balance to reach that state of mind. But I'm a layman on that and want to research it more in the future

@aurum I suppose the goal is to signalize the brain "You are doing something weird, people probably think bad of you and judge you -> It doesn't matter though, because you are not the center of the universe. Nobody actually cares even if you do something weird." I'm curious, have you done that and experienced immediate results, or have seen results with this on other people? I know there are no quickfixes in this Personal Development journey, but the brain can sometimes very fast re-structure it's mapping of reality through shock experiences like this.

This guy is great for this Sometimes I wonder if I found the most wise guy or the most crazy guy ever. In my opinion, he is one of the most sane people I know, but appears as insane because we live in a society where insanity is considered normal. He is also good to fuck with your understanding of nonduality and shake you out of any trance.

@Thanatos13 You justify this depressed state with the realization of a void, and everybody who is trying to give you another interpretation which is not as depressive as yours, is clearly just kidding himself and has not seen the same "void" as you. It is just a justification of victimized status, using the following reasoning: "I have seen something that others have not seen, so they are just naive and not able to understand that I am indeed correct with my nihilistic and pessimistic outlook on life" and "If they have seen what I have seen and not share the same feelings, they must be kidding themselves". Your mind is tricking you. You have not reached the end.

@MarkusSweden I feel what you say. I have the same problem. It is hard sometimes to even know what my authentic self is. I think we have to dismiss this classical point of view that we are this one particular way, and that this is how we are. Authenticity means spontanious, simple expression of whatever is the truth for me at this moment/interaction. The problem arises when we betray ourselves in order to stay loyal to a projected persona or habitual pattern of interaction. It sometimes feels as if the habitual pattern or the perona is the real authentic self expression. It's very nuanced. There are feelings of guilt sometimes for not being the person the other expects one to be. It is like a pendulum: on one extreme is the pressure of being absolutely the person that the other wants you to be, on the other side is absolutely not giving a fuck about what the other wants you to be (that might entail not even entering the interaction). Maybe the extreme pendulum swing into absolutely not giving a fuck is not the most authentic, because if whenever an interaction takes place, that implies that there is a dynamic between two different feelings of authenticity who meet eachother, and something beautiful can arise out of that. We have to try to be authentic and not betray ourselves, but still know that we are in a social interaction with someone who might not "get" us, so we have to find a way in which they "get" us and still express our truth. In the end, we can't express our truth and simultaniously try to control how the other will perceive or react to that truth. Our job is honesty and avoid self betrayal. But if we not start or take responsibility for installing authenthic, honest interaction, nobody will. Then it's "I am the person you want me to be and you are the person I want you to be" - and nobody is actually himself. It's a constant practice though, authentic self expression.

@MarkusSweden why do you think you must stay loyal to the projections others made on you? Yes, it's a common underlying/unconscious mindset, this "don't change, be the person you always were, and if you suddenly be different, then that is weird, and you are weird. Because does that mean you were not authentic or uncomfortable with yourself before?" But we don't have to play along with this. It's hard to do though, but that's where the work comes in.

@Leo Gura In your live enlightenment experience video you said something along the lines that there is no difference now between life and death, that it is in the exact same dimension. I wonder: In that moment of absolute certainty that you are already dead, what actually would happen if the body drops dead? Because the head or body is in a certain relation with the perceptions occuring. The perceptions of the room you where in, the camera in which you were speaking. All of those perceptions would stay the same? Because certainly the dream of a person living in las vegas has ceased at that point, but with the body perception still being there you could walk and nontheless experience the relational framework of this particular perceptions. (Planet Earth, Las Vegas, Leo). So when you say there is absolutely no difference between life and death, I'm not sure exactly what you mean. There is even a difference in going to bed and entering an unknown dream reality. Certainly death of the body never ceases to be the unknown. The moment of death of the body, I would guess, is even more a radical shift in continuity of so far perceived framework of reality. Buddhists believe that you enter a bardo state. If not, one could just dose himself up with a psychedelic to that point, and then inject himself a lethal dosis of something or shooting oneself in the head (Or overdosing the psychedelic). A psychedelic mahasamadhi. Maybe that becomes a thing in the future for people who have diseases that cant be healed.