Echoes

Lately I asked myself if it is reasonable and sensible to tell people about all this who seem to be happy and have a sense of purpose in their life. As I first learned about this, I felt that I needed to tell people about it, and it always led to debates of course. I always felt the urge to talk about this, because I wanted people to know that there is such a thing as ultimate truth (actually my Ego just wanted to debate, and tried to miss no opportunity to do so. Much cringe in retrospective) But now I wonder how to handle this? On the one hand it is the truth of life, and I feel bad to keep back these informations from others. It creates a gap between me and them and they have a right to know this truth about their own life. On the other hand, they will think that I'm crazy anyway. Or they will get depressed when they actually think about it and admit that there are certain truths to it but don't grasp the overall image of non-duality/spirituality yet. Any opinions on this?

What is Adel? you mean this?

I had only one really strange (and very short) experience so far: After about 30min I had the feeling of levitating slightly out of my body. As I looked down, I saw spiders crawling all over my legs. Then I heard a female voice saying "Hello?!" this got me scared and I dropped out of it. It lasted only 10 seconds or so.

@Leo Gura At what age did you learn about Enlightenment and Spirituality and that there is such a thing as absolute truth? Did you already know about all this when you uploaded your first video on the channel?

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@Gurunext As long as it is a concept it is an idea and not reality. Also, there is a difference in intention or intention based imagination/visualization and the conceptual description of metaphysical truths. The human race is already playing it's delusional game with reality. Having all sorts of beliefs who are not grounded in anything. Isn't this the real problem the world has? Everybody beliefs something and identifies with it. This starts with the belief "I am this body, and there is this outside world" seperation and suffering is born. No need to belief in more things people say and create even more delusion. The "outside" is what is not here and now in your current experience. In fact, nothing is outside. What do you mean with this whole "Management System" and trading value thing? Not sure if I understand what you are trying to say.

@Gurunext Value is an arbitrary conceptual construct shaped by a limited perspective. You can't make an objective definition of value, it is always only an individual judgement. Only the ego (Identification with Body&Mind) wants to create and compare value and power. All is one, why should "the one" compare itself with itself? Whatever does exist outside of pure being (the eternal now) is speculation and theorizing, but not absolute truth.

@Gurunext Time and value are illusions; human concepts. They do not exist in pure being. Everything you add to pure being are only ideas. Who wants to compare value with what?

"You are not your Elf in the World of Warcraft" - Tom Campbell

@Gurunext Ego=Identification with Body/Mind. The "self" is just exploding into everything and is pure presence. pure being. "A wish to grow" is in time and requires a future. Consciousness is timelessness, it just wants to express and experience itself through different perspectives

@Gurunext Ego gives you nothing but illusion. The power that comes from the ego is only illusory. What do you mean with "Ego Death Experience: Simply the opposite of being"? pure being is the result of the disappearance of the ego; The ego veils being with false beliefs. "Ego Death is simply suicide" Yes! that's exactly what we are here for. Complete annihilation of the false. We don't "kill" anything that's true, but only that which was never true in the first place

I only show other people these more metaphysical/foundational videos like "What Is God?" "Why Rationality Is Wrong" "Science vs. Religion - The Absurdity Revealed" because Leo has the ability to shock people out of their current beliefsystem or atleast question it. I don't think anybody I know is interested in the more "down to earth" aspects of personal development (Stop Being A Victim or similar topics) because they had to admit that there is a necessity in them to improve and invest emotional labour in exploring the inner world. They just want to live their life and don't invest time those things

@eskwire Your brother probably too got hurt in his past by cruel behavior from other people. The things people say to hurt other people are almost always the things by which they got hurt themselves. They then project their emotional wounds on others. Maybe you can talk with him about this? And never forget: Whatever you do, it is alone YOUR decision. You are in control. Don't think you have to do something you don't want to do because you feel social pressure or something. Only do it if YOU decide to do it out of your own free will.

Sit and focus your awareness on the feelings that your thoughts generate. Focus on these feelings and dive into them, until you hit the root. Example: When you have the recurring thought "No matter what happens in my life I probably won't be happy" you maybe reveal an underlying, deeper thought/conviction about reality like "I don't deserve happiness, I am defective" or "external circumstances (like age for example) have the power to decide if I am at peace with myself or not" Suffering originates because you don't accept reality as it is. And this not-accepting may not be fully conscious to you now, but lies on a deeper, unconscious level. You have to look for this source of non-acceptance. You have to first accept your current situation fully before a conscious change and a productive journey towards your goals is possible.

Because you still seem to be identified to a certain degree with this specific illusion. Or you are still identified or attached to the very feeling of dropping this illusion. You give negative meaning to the dropping of this illusion, because you believe that with the dropping of the illusion, you also drop all the feelings and emotions you had attached to this illusion. Realize that you don't need this specific illusion to have the feelings you thought where inherent to this illusion.

@Nahm I dont wanted to discuss the whole free will vs. determinism thing and if we have any choice. I'm not really sure about this and what is true. Maybe I'm not good in expressing what exactly I meant. I'll try again: A dream in the night generally happens to us (as long as we are not lucid) and reflects situations in our lifes, unfullfilled desires, unconscious traumas/beliefs/conflicts, etc. For this, the dream "uses" various phenomenon such as special circumstances, metaphorical situations, specific objects, and so on. They all arise in the field of awareness (the same field that is aware of the "waking" state). And for this dream language, various techniques have arisen who try to interprete and analyze these objects and other stuff. For example: "Circle To see a circle in your dream symbolizes perfection, completeness, immortality and/or wholeness. On a less positive note, it may also mean that you are going around in circles in some situation. Or the circle can indicate monotony and endless repetition" I would say that the same (that the waking state is happening to us) is true so long as we are asleep and not aware of our true nature. But when we wake up from this "waking" state and become lucid in THIS everyday reality, we may shift the direction of our reality completely, as we can shift the direction of our night dream when we become lucid. So in the waking state too, symbols/situations etc are arising in the field of awareness. My question is: When circles for example occuring in ordinary waking reality, can I jump to the same conclusion that they have any meaning about my state of consciousness; that they are maybe trying to communicate something to me that's hidden in my unconscious realms? Why should this only apply to the night dream?

Ramana Maharshi once responded to the question "What is the difference between dreaming and the waking state?" -> "There is no difference between the dream and the waking state except that the dream is short and the waking long" Since it is possible to interpret and analyze dreams, I wonder if it's also possible to analyze our "waking" state dream? The world is consciousness; we are the world as we are the dream world. Are there recurring and known symbolic patterns who appear in ones field of awareness? I know that such things as Synchronicity exist, which are described as "meaningful coincedences", but I am especially interested in the interpretation of these recurring messages. Are there any books or resources in general who dive into the interpretation of "physical" forms/recurring symbols/etc? What can they tell us about our individual and collective unconscious? Can we use the same books that concentrate on interpreting dreams and dream symbols to interpret our waking dream? For example: When you go to a therapist and tell him that a specific animal is recurring in your dreams over and over, he might analyze this dream symbol and interpret it in a certain way to tell the patient what the meaning of this figure has about the unconscious mechanism or the specific condition about the patient. If I go in the forest now in the waking state everyday for a week and I see a specific animal over and over again, can I do the same interpretation with this? This video got me interested in the topic, but it's more about how to live here if you know that it's just a dream and not really about the interpretation

The absence of the illusion only hurts the illusion. Truth can not be hurt

@nbolt I don't know if you have already seen it, but Leo mentioned them in his blog a while ago. https://www.actualized.org/insights/persistent-non-symbolic-experience He also was a guest in Buddha at the Gaspump, so I doubt that this is scam.

@spinderella You have to investigate deeply into your core beliefs. Trace your negative thinking back to their root assumption about the world. You have a whole web of unconscious beliefs and assumption about you and the world in general, and the thoughts that appear in your awareness are only the excesses or consequences of that fundamental world view. Once you found the root, you can FEEL it, release it, and change it. To only look at the thoughts that appear in your awareness is not enough, because as long as the root thoughts are there, they will return over and over again and pull you back into their gravitational energy.

I know, I know; it sounds extreme. "The ego is not your enemy" you will say "accept your ego" you will say. But first hear me out. The ego has it's own agenda. It wants to survive, and it needs energy and a web of (unconscious) justifications for it's existence. It judges, complains, worrys, fears, and is projecting living and happiness into the future to substitute living NOW. The ego is not able to fully love. It is a defense mechanism for not being loved fully. It is terrified to open up again, and again being devastated by projective missiles of non-love (credits to Shunyamurti). So the ego resists full blown love, it thinks love is not present or a scarce ressource. The ego-mind consists of unconscious fragments/projections and is therefore split. It is not whole and fully integrated. It is a monstrous underestimated entity that has nested in our consciousness and is trying to deceive and control us. trying to prevent us from seeing the present moment and absolute truth. It is transforming our lives into a hellrealm and this planet into a radioactive desert. In that sense, the ego is like an alien entity that is trying to survive by all available means. You will say, there a more healthy ego's than others. And this is true. However, because the fact that the ego is itself a defense mechanism with an existent unconscious consisting of multiple invisible fragments, there is still something in the consciousness that's running it's own agenda. There is still self-deception, delusion, and defense against love. As long as there is an unconscious, consciousness is not fully in control, because it has no knowledge of the ego's real agendas. Even if the ego is empathic and want's goodness for the world, it is still limited by unconscious fantasys. In my opinion, it doesn't make sense to sugarcoat the ego and live with it. It must be transcended fully and fight against with acceptance and love. What do you think? e: acceptance has an ambivalent meaning here. One acceptance would be "Yea, I have an ego, so what? gonna live with it and have fun" The other acceptance would be a deep investigation through meditation/psychedelics with full commitment to extinguish this entity through collecting and loving every unconscious fragment of the ego (I don't see yet how this can ever be possible)

But what they are doing is observing patterns/laws to find out how this dream works and why it does exist. But it doesn't usually tell us anything about what the appearances in our field of awareness tell us about our own being, our own unconscious. They usually think that there is a consensus material reality that consists of objects without any meaning to consciousness.

Maybe you are more of an Introvert person? For introverts, socialising can be very energy draining, while extroverts gain energy from social events.

I mean we normally say that space does not exist. But still something seems to seemingly seperate our two experiences. What is it that seperates our experiences if there is no dimension of any sort? Look at this image for example. This is how I imagine infinity/consciousness looking at all those experiences. But at the same time it is "zoomed in" in all of those as indivituated perspectives. But if we in our "zoomed in" state are the same consciousness as that which is prior to the zoom-in, shouldn't we be able to zoom out and then look at a multiplicity of all those infinite experiences? But then it would be one experience of several experiences again, as @PureExp previously said. Man, this can be confusing sometimes @WaveInTheOcean