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@Dodoster You can put well over a 1000 words on here, but as long as you can't answer the simple questions asked,.. IT remains not clear to yourself. You think when Buddha was asked: What is suffering? He would answer what you were posting? Like "These are just words and concepts". Or would you think he would go: This is suffering, this is the cause of suffering, this is the end of suffering, this is the way leading to the end of suffering. Take the list I put down, and really start answering them correctly after deep thinking. When I ask some spiritual advanced people, they truly answer such questions, and get into depth about them correctly. Not escaping with repetitions from other works. Or they use parts from other works with a good explanation related to such questions when asked for clarification.

@Martin123 This is the reason why it doesn't add up. Because who's loop? No one spoke about any loop. nothing + I = I am? Nothing is nothing it isn't something. Using the word nothing presenting it as some kind of element to combine, is indeed a loop, but not one that explains ones true nature. Nothing doesn't speak, or has not spoken,.. Nor did I... And now we get closer where and why it slips. And here it slips: There is the statement of explaining Nothing and I am, while you can't combine something with nothing. And if one truly understands it, one can answer the questions I listed up perfectly fine. But this cannot be, for as long one didn't question deep enough, and doesn't live up to it in a way that supports such high power of thinking. In this whole thread, I will not get the answer Martin, to the questions I listed up.

I will again critically review: I hope of course that you see that you are not answering the questions I posted: What is ego: "Everything on top of I am is Ego. Not saying its bad. Its quite necessary for life." What is I am, and what is then on top of that? It doesn't answer what IS ego. You state you are nothing. What is the cause of our thinking: "I am nothing" "The understanding that what you wrote also is a happening and there was no doer is also there." (this is not what you stated before, that you were not fully sure). This is not answering the question is it? I mean on top of nothing, that is ego. I wonder how ego came out of nothing then, in such a case... Can you explain how Ego comes out of nothing, by first answering: What IS nothing? (good luck answering what is nothing), What is ego, and how one (ego) is on top of the other (nothing) then then can be verified as Ego. You state you are nothing. You state you have investigated reality. But can't answer what is reality? You state we have no free will. But can't answer what free will is. So if I state it correctly: In the beginning, there was nothing. And out of nothing, came the Ego? Surely you stated that you investigated reality, "the Nothing" is what you investigated, the thing that is called nothing, that you made into something, from nothing?

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@Dodoster Let me review this one critically: You stated: The answer I have is the same: they are words, concept and ideas. That we have no free will. That you investigated reality. You concluded you do not control thoughts that come to your awareness. And stated: Not fully realizing that one is not the doer. Surely your thinking is not due to that these things are just words, concept and ideas, yet you state that you investigated reality... What is then reality? Surely if you investigated, you at least answered that question first. IF not, then how can you be so sure about your conclusions, and that you truly investigated, even so, not yet realizing that one is not the doer as you stated, How, if you didn't "Fully" realize one is not the doer as you state, you can conclude (and state, as you did) that we are not having a free will, or do have a free will based on your statements? Someone that truly investigated can surely get into depth when it comes to questions such as, what is thought, what is the origin of your thinking, what causes you to think? Of course these are just words, however you used these same words to make such statements, so in return I ask questions using words and concepts. Conclusion: You did not fully realize that one is not the doer, yet you do claim that we have no free will. I say: How can you be sure that this is the case? What is the basis, the cause of such thinking? Surely after such a conclusion, can you tell us, what is free will? Because you conclude that we don't have one.

You are ruining their day!! Don't you see their sad faces when reading such things, readying to strike back after their little dip? Stop doing this, can't you see? You take all the fun out of it for them... IT must be like a product in the supermarket that has beautiful colors, happy faces on it and extremely tempting like you see in commercials, otherwise they don't buy it. ========================== Here for those who truly think they have it all figured out, but don't live up to it, surely they can't answer these questions, and are most definitely not willing to get a critical review after they gave it a definition if they just give it fast a definition they saw somewhere on tv, a book or elsewhere, just counting someone else's money. What is Ego? What is personality? What is the origin of Ego? What is the origin of Personality? What is the end of Ego? What is the end of personality? What it is the actual trigger leading to such ends? "I agree that people first should awaken, then do personal development" Here, for those who truly think like this: What is awakening? What is development? What is the origin of awakening? What is the end of awakening? What causes awakening and development? What is the actual trigger leading to such awakenings? Of course, here is your candy, be sweet now, and shush and stop criticizing blindly if you can't even truly think about your own statements rather they are well thought out, or just a bunch of ideas you took here and there without living up to them, able to explain when reviewed. Really are you all really ready to teach or bombard here and there on a forum, making points towards one another if you can't even answer such simple question such as: What is free will? What is justice? What is wisdom? What is life? What is happiness? What is suffering? What are the causes for suffering? What is the end of suffering? What leads to happiness, wisdom and justice? Do we have a free will? What causes suffering? Of course, here is your candy, be sweet now, and stop your criticizing, your unwholesome speech if you didn't even truly considered thinking about your own statements rather they are well thought out, or just a bunch of ideas you took here and there without living up to them, able to explain properly, or thought out well, but just follow and belief blindly anyway. Well, post your answers on these questions if you dare, and I shall do my utmost to criticize them properly, and see rather you truly understood your own belief systems, or that it was indeed a silly blind belief. I bet people will refuse to answer such questions, because they simply can't, and this my belief why this is exactly the reason this thread has been set in place. Setting unrealistic goals for yourself, that ask for contemplation. Really are you all really ready to teach one another or bombard here and there on the forum if you can't even answer such simple questions? I find it utterly amazing that people keep on posting on such topics in this case that some are criticizing Martin123 and others also contemplating the same things, and are answering the most difficult questions, while I seem to have faced extreme difficulties writing my book answering the most challenging simple questions about life even when decently practicing. I fairly believe that this thread is exactly because Martin thinks that people underestimate enlightenment, or the pursue to it, and out of kindness reflected here on this forum to reconsider. Which is demonstrating contemplation, intelligence, love and kindness, and courage to doubt consciously, which are of course the cornerstones of either self development or pursue of enlightenment, which most still up to this day fail to understand. Of course I am just a conscious fool that must shut up. Right?

@Martin123 There is not a single teaching to be found, that should not be led go of in the end when progressing. All teachings are damaging due to that. However, the compensation is that one can stop his own further damaging, that would continue if one does not pursue a healthy goal such as enlightenment. There is no such thing as, someone is ready for enlightenment or not. Any being is ready for enlightenment or the pursue of it. Because no teaching of enlightenment is to actually reach the enlightenment as how one would love to see it happening. People love to see it as some kind of object that is next to other objects standing in a supermarket. However, some do suffer to little, and others do suffer to much, when it comes to their interest when it comes to pursuing such goals. Of course when not enlightened, its of course the teaching that is to blame, the little puppet isn't satisfied with the results. But this has more to do with picking a wrong teacher that does not live up to his teachings, but did choose this teacher because one thought that this person would be fitting in ones own little world of perception, or even thinks one deserves such a teacher. Teachings, are not there to actually teach someone, although a teaching can be seen as a teacher, it is in fact a big aggregate, they just make someone think deeper, question on a more profound level, that leads the person to wonder again. The things such belief systems one holds so dear, are questioned rather they are actually well thought out, or rather one just blindly believed it. Such thinking is damaging, rather healing seen from the perspective when one can let go of it and prevents long term damage which happens if one would not think about it and rather stays with not well thought out belief systems. For example: One could right now follow this question, and is already thinking more deeply when thinking about the following question: Ever thought of the fact rather there was ever one in history ever enlightened, or rather that someone ever will get enlightened? Now of course, who knows, right? Now of course we could go deeper, and truly state: Teachings of enlightenment, Dharma, is pure science. No one who ever got enlightened, ever returned unenlightened. I can't recall one example. So for those readers who truly think they can first awaken, then do self improvement, are really deluded up side down thinking that they can have it both ways, fooling themselves these things differ like anything else, missing their aim, blindly missing where such thoughts arose. While it is just one way all the time, which is of course yourself that must become the way, there are no thousands upon thousands of minds that you must work with, its your own damn mind to work with that thinks there are many paths, many teachings, many awakenings many this that, ..... are you finished? When personhood ends, Buddhahood is. And I must still see a single enlightened one becoming unenlightened. Thank you Martin123 for bringing this article up. Yes, one must indeed do what one finds suiting first. Becoming a right student first, may it be called self improvement or what else, before one truly gets into a real life set goal of enlightenment... And this is of course due to when one awakens to the vision of Dharma, one cannot return, will move on and on, until one finally became whole again. And silly bodies are not blocking this, because you are not your damn body... Nor the idea of body, Awareness was long before, and long after. When one awakens to the Dharma, the vision of it, one will move on from body to body if needed, until what is done, is done. I repeat therefor: When personhood ends, Buddhahood is. And I must still see a single enlightened one becoming unenlightened.

@John Flores Are you silently referring to the nephilim that has been written down in various scriptures by different names? In a sense that they might have come from outside, mixed with humans, and that this is repeating?

Awareness will not cease to exist. But the sensitivity over something, that also is a sort of consciousness, will cease to exist when perception ceases. How? Because, sensitivity over something, always under this condition may let perception be. The root to let sensitivity cease to exist is by calming ones motives. Calmed motives means one is no longer craving. One could state that one then has purified his perception. Perception and Awareness are then 1. Now with calmed motives, one is a child again.

Attaining true self, a game of spirit. Due to the temporary things in nature, and being in truth, all pervasive Awareness, can everything be seen as a game. A hide and seek game. Nature can be seen as game events happening as a result of all kind of causes. Power games, can be seen as the great deceptive games that are happening in the game. Game of enlightenment is the game of spirit, becoming whole again, realizing one is both the observer and the observed and remaining anchored in it. The game has certain features that are blocked for others, our bodies can be seen as engineered systems and religions, science and everything based on perception can be seen as software that can be installed biologically through attention, effort, and concentration. Game = Awareness + Intelligence. The game, nature, that which we call the environment, everything related to the game, is temporary in nature. Intelligence is in this context thus the self purification feature that is everything, a converter that is pure. Intelligence = Law in this context, the law of action leading to its according results. Your relationship with intelligence happens through ones own thinking, building sub intelligences, that are related to certain habits. Different sub intelligences form there for your personal game. Because there is no actual separation, belief systems create ones game as a result also after death. One is there for powerful enough to create different hells and heavens according the relationship between you and intelligence. This intelligence and Awareness, are not bound to one body. There for one can have many incarnated sources of various of planes interacting with each other through out the interwoven intelligence. The true star of the game, your True self, is the Supreme that governs all your worlds. Your true self is your ultimate guide and protector in this game. The goal of the game, is to spiral out of the game, and to Attain the True self for higher experiences. Understand that by this, since nothing has a vast source, people have endlessly have had created their own experiences, attained knowledge accordingly and blindly shared them, that is their game. This breaks the idea that evolution theory is real, religions must have been right etc. Understand that this game is polarized, and there for the greatest challenge to over come, to spiral out of this game, is to see through the deceptive games that are put upon you by overcoming your own created intelligences. I speak of intelligences, because there is no vast person. The only true personification is your True self. All of history you belief to be true, is simply not true, maybe to them who belief so. There are endless different history stories that are related to different planes. Due to that there is no vast source, your true self creates its own history. There are just different games played, games of deceptive intent. Power games. So let this article be a call, knowledge for your True self, a signal that this all is grand scale and highly complex. I wonder how many on this forum, are interested to see more information about this game. Let me hear in the comment section rather people are ready for such knowledge.

What is the resemblance between Non-judgement And Not Care? Now that this is questioned, we can move on what the actual difference is, what remained hidden. There is no actual source to be found, a puppet in someone that is the puppet that was doing non-judgement, or was not caring. Therefor, in this case the difference lies within the intention of someone, and the effort of someone. Someone not caring, fails to live up to right effort and right intentions. Someone judgmental, fails to live up to right effort and right intentions. Conclusion: Careless. We can of course now just use the words non-judgement with the words wrong effort and intentions... And its now perfectly in line with: Careless. Someone caring and nonjudgmental lives up to right effort and right intentions. Conclusion: Careful. Caring. We can now of course now just use the words non-judgement with the words right effort and intentions... And its now perfectly in line with the words: Careful. Caring. Which also means, we can discern it properly by replacing the word: non-judgement with Judgmental, with still the same words: Right effort and intentions, careful and caring. Which changes the meaning the word judgmental reflects. It now became a necessity, in need to decide preventing indecision and therefor being careless. Which can also be reflecting the word Non-Judgement, depending on the situation.

At the very moment when you think you are not judging or silently trying to escape it, one should immediately try hard to judge at its best, consciously. There is no point in making a readers manual how that must be done. By the time you tried your hardest you will be forgotten what it was about.

Consciously make your best attempt to judge.

@electroBeam Just be ready to sit in the middle of it. Accepting, is just bombard yourself straight into it. Ready to get it consciously more fearful then it already is to lose fear over fear. Everything that attains awareness, is doomed to transform. Now fear can only transform in love. "Stop your little whining, get into it!"

Don't blame me for what arises when reading this, for that which is arisen is what you are not. That which you want to point at the other, is your sense of self, and not the factual other. You've never seen the other, for you've never seen yourself.

Rather it is beneficial or not, does not well explain why someone should use a standard line of science claiming its therefor end of story when it comes to questioning about what they are spraying in the air. Which is the point of why quantum said: this isn't radical open-mindedness, this is narrow-minded. Its better explained by that it has indeed to do with ignorance, blind acceptance, and not willing to be open and responsible. Of course Jse misses the point of questioning something, which is this thread about, and not about the conspiracy of any kind. It seems to be difficult to discern that for some. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man That something may or not may be a conspiracy in the end, has nothing to do with critical questioning, which is healthy and should be promoted. Such comments labeling and demotivating critical questioning should be demotivated, which demonstrates lack of responsibility and intelligence. Seek on google the word Geo-engineering, instead of the word Chemtrails.

Fear is what governs them. And in doing so, they at the moment become the agent defending the system that keeps them prisoners within their own minds where they think to be someone. Making them heirs and result of their thinking based on the imprints from their childhood, where no one really was taught to think critically, questioning critically about the world around and within us. Questions such as: Can we trust science? What can we know? How can one live a moral life? What is God? What is the nature of mind?

Of course such comments and such wild assumptions has nothing to do with having a better understanding regarding science. But has rather to do with belittling, a lack of understanding concerning the laws of nature related to critical thinking by questioning the ideas widely accepted, beside the fact rather earth is flat or not. However one is free of course to comment, one misses the aim to be daring to question, but rather chooses to belittle others who do dare to question widely accept ideas about the world we live in, rather then childishly accepting or holding up a certain belief they never themselves explored. Which of course can be compared like the rust on iron. Which is exactly demonstrated by such comments to be the case when it comes to mind and ignorance.

@WaveInTheOcean Your posts are extended, I am going to order them. I see a clear misunderstanding coming up, regarding how I view things according to how you view things. I will demonstrate why it is not the case that I am discrediting a scientist. But only pure upon the explanations that further have nothing to do with Einstein, but rather with the bunch of people that use such explanations to wrap it with other explanations and then state that it is therefor true, because there was but one right explanation, which I say, is not a case of science, but a case of ignorance. So what I am going to try to explain here, is how a scientist isn't always free from ignorance. And that therefor the explanation of Einstein are valid, in opposition of the misuse of people that state its the only explanation etc (which has nothing to do with his explanation, but rather their ignorance misusing a theory). While I would bet that if Einstein would continue his work, he would have gone further with more explanations, regarding the subject even so he might discovered that there are other explanations. But the same could be said about Tesla, that reviewed gravity totally differently. But got suppressed. And this is where I came in, with what is a case of science, and what is a case of ignorance, and what is the parasite for humans? I stated the ball earth. Why? Not because it is or is not a ball, but the extent people belief it to be true without further questioning. Therefor its the greatest hoax, not rather its the actual shape as in physical sense, but the shape within their minds, that is the parasite of falsely belief it must be true without self exploration of any kind. Which gave no room for further questioning due to that the earth must be a ball, all places are discovered, give up the search, don't further question rather it is not a ball either, because you are called a fool. This is the parasite that is the idea that demobilizes their curiosity to a great extent. That has nothing to do with its actual shape (therefor this discussion ball vs flat, to question), where if I would state: Its therefor flat, and belief all the concepts concerning the flat earth, this is the same parasite still, but I did not yet put it in my work here extensively enough, but I should clearly do that, I see that. But I am going to clarify this in my book as well, presenting this topic more extensively due to the questions it arises also from you, and thank you for your contribution for that, its dear to me. So what do I see as a hoax (examples of various parasites): The only explanation is given by Einstein, and its the only explanation, therefor the only valid one (we are no longer in need of any other explanation). I say, this is not a case of science, its a case of ignorance. (has nothing to do with the theory, but their false belief it explains it all). There is but only one explanation given by Einstein, and its the only explanation, therefor all those other explanations concerned in accordance with this explanation and theories, are therefor right. All the others are not right. I say, this is not a case of science, its a case of ignorance. Movies, mass media, everyone is propagating that which has been found, which shapes worldview and explains how everything came to be. I say, this has nothing to do with science, its not a case of science, its a case of ignorance. Yes these theories are not complete, they need extension, we just mention this in our magazines that we belief it to be so... I say this has nothing to do with science, its a case of ignorance. And here my worldview comes in (describing wholesome from unwholesome, which demonstrates their ignorance, that they don't know science at all, that some scientists are in accordance with this knowledge, and others are not, discerning an ignorant from a not ignorant scientist based on the same law they think they understood, but demonstrates that some did not understand it at all, while some scientists did understand this perfectly well.), this is the field of which I call the pure sciences, the science of the nature of mind, Dharma. All those other fields of sciences, may be compared with a great discussion among people using the rules of logic for their discussions. All might be educated and extended in discussion formats considering sophism etc. But it doesn't end the discussion. The discussion has nothing further to do with science, its not a case of science, its a case of ignorance. That which end the discussion has nothing to do with their demonstration of intellect regarding the subject due to higher intellect or better skills to prove anything. That which ends the discussion is wisdom, a birds view from top down where non can escape the pure law of action leading to its according result and the law of temporary, which they use in their own fields as professionals, but failed to use upon themselves. (And this waveoftheocean, is how I review science, the depth, the sublimity of the pure law. Its used in professional fields, but science is so subtle that it can also be as the pure sciences, which I referred to as the science of the nature of mind, Dharma. I might can call them: Dharmalogists, in the field of Dharmalogy). < Of course there is a fat red line under these 2 words, as it never heard of these therms. This is the field I operate in. I kick out their wrong view of personhood. Which makes such a discussion utterly nonsense if its continued for the sake of personhood sustaining. This is a binding force. And this is the mark of the comments that I make on this form. It binds. The biologist might tell that the behavior of his neighbor can't be explained, that crazy behavior, this crazy man, not in all of the world of biology can this be explained. But a good friend that happened to be educated in another field will state: It can be perfectly explained, let me explain... (He happened to be a psychiatrist.) I hope you can now see, that the field I work in, is the pure science. The science of the nature of mind. Which with its explanations, discerns wholesome from not wholesome, and clothed with arguments, it binds, and kicks out the misunderstanding of personhood. Well, you have never asked directly: Aware, would you be so kind to review based on your understanding, rather the distinction between scientists and scientists. Which scientists are ignorant and which not? Which theories are wholesome, and which theories are not wholesome. But I am going to assume that this is the real question. To shed some light on this, so we don't have to misunderstand each other. You came up with an X and Y, which is a good one to refer too. I referred this to multi and sequential. But here the case is, of those sequantials, that work with the material form of science, (seen everything as science, the pure law), that there are grades into it. And we didn't really discuss that yet, you are so quick with your questioning, and I am typing my book as fast as I can, and really am eager to get deeper on that one article about the Awarenesses. Well lets say here is X multi streamed... And Y, is sequential streamed. Then this is how I review it: There are different levels of understanding when it comes to the streams of X. And there are no different levels concerning Y like seen with X. Which means they are the full Awareness in one body, no other streams (either finally ripe for path X or not, is level determination). Except for the Awareness that is spread over as a mass, which does differ compared to to their other companion. X path, does not end as Y path. But the Y path ends as X path streamed Awareness in the end. So its not like yin and yang. With Opposite awareness, its not like yin and yang. They are opposite because of their practices but not in being in "service" of Essence, because both are experiencing a valid game letting Essence experience itself. One is still in the power game play, and the other is in liberation game. This means, that this can be compared with intensity level of understanding the law of temporary and law of action >result in relationship with themselves and the world. Which better can be compared with sunlight, and moonlight. They differ in intensity. Although not separated. Still the same Essence. One of both uses the law to determine their material existence consciously, and unconsciously using this law for liberation... The other one uses this same law to determine the subtle and consciously using this same law for liberation, due to that one is awakening to the fact that both inside and outside is empty in nature. However, yin and yang, is based on the game settings of it all. Its polarity. A sequential is preferring one over the other still. Although seeming to be balanced within their perspective, which becomes harder to see as they are ready to skip to the X path. It gets confusing, when you see a mid-level multi stream, and a sequential that is ready to go to the other path. Here dynamics come into play. That the sequential is better in the way of service in his experience game, than the mid-level stream is in his game of experience. Here confusion starts when personhood is still part of their daily lives in both cases. So where does it go wrong? Its not going wrong with Einstein. It goes wrong with the misuse of his explanations. I never heard Einstein say: Use my theory, and its the only theory and possible explanation, debunk all others as false, and never seek another explanation for the same phenomena. So its due to its nature of explaining the physical world, that isn't really physical that makes it an aggregate in comparison with mind that then isn't physical. Its this polarity that is confusing, and demonstrating its sequentialism. So, from someone who practices at a high level of multi stream, Einstein is not the enemy. One only must put on some glasses with a filter that corrects the one explaining his theories in relationship with anything else. Which means that such theories are aggregates. That if one is educated in Dharma, can quickly translate it to no personhood, and the law of action > result. However someone not educated in Dharma, will fall into the trap of nihilism or eternalism. (which has nothing to do with the theory itself, but their own ignorance again thinking such a theory will explain it all for them, and since many are taught this on schools also for the multies, they should refrain from society in order to let go of their imprints). Which is not what Einstein was trying to explain of course. However, bundling his theories to explain other theories, debunking yet others because they can't be right, while simultaneously egoistically thinking one understood his laws perfectly fine, is something I do not buy into (which is not what Einstein was explaining at all). Its the explanations for a phenomenon, where there is but one explanation that must rule in a particular field, missing its aim that its the law of action >result is the real law, yes I call this misleading, has nothing to do with science, its not even a case of science, its a case of ignorance. So for sequentials, this is perfect (thinking they ARE the physical at some point... But for someone on the path to liberation, its dangerous if one has not yet been taught Dharma, so it can be translated properly. Its like going to another country without the body being adapted to the conditions of their dangers. And this is the case with our education system, that really promotes the masses of sequential over that of a multi streamed. (which makes the game not easy, and leads as a result to a more intense experience then the sequential game structures, which again perfectly is explained by action leading to its according results). Therefor I stated: Leave the masses, you can't understand it from their perspective if you are on the path of liberation. Which you can't get off when you are in it, attained the vision of it. Here therefor wholesome and not wholesome can be discerned based on that. However I look one time at such a video, translate it and understand it properly and accordingly. So, I say: Einstein was a sequential, not based on the fact that therefor his theories must be wrong, no, because its his practice of science that demonstrates it being an aggregate, the material sciences. Polarity: Dark. So, I say: Tesla was a sequential, not based on the fact that therefor his theories must be wrong, no, because its his practice of science that demonstrates it being an aggregate, the material sciences. Polarity: Light. I say that both are still subject to action>result, and when they go for X path, surely they face their own Y path theories of previous to let go off when they too will need to refrain from their own sequential views of back then, and this is how I determined how X is higher in its intensity then Y, and that Y ends in X path and not the other way around based on the same law of action > result. Some game knowledge: The game here, has also its preference, which is dark. Maybe in another cycle, this game will be light orientated, a Tesla's theories would then be promoted, and Einstein's theories demoted. However this is off topic. For a multi streamed, one must therefor, refrain from the deep imprints of the material sequential way of service of Essence so to speak. Its in that case not multi against sequential, its the multi against multi. Because one must make ones own mind straight. But can't when he does not refrain from its aggregates. Personhood must get to an end, so the multi streamed can realize its true nature to over come oneself, where the battle between oneself and oneself can come to its end by cessation due to tiredness. So does this mean that a sequential is helpless? No not at all! Although they will be kicked on the path when a multi streamed is a final or close to it (is then the full sequential as well, but the difference is the pervasiveness of all ones experiences that came to full radiance), and will let the whole cycle of sequential Y, by leap of faith transfer to path X in direct experience. Which is a great and rare time within the game when this happens. Jesus, Buddha, Krishna and other masters are full final multi streamed masters. When a sequential would listen to me, (this happened already a few times), and I share the Dharma, it happened as well that they took the leap of faith, and their body of knowledge so to speak drops off and see themselves in me, and me within them, and the vision of Dharma is awakened in them. However this is small compared to the extent Jesus or a Buddha worked on this when it comes to amount. I would like to press on the fact, that a transfer of sequential to multi streamed, is more natural then the healing of a mind of a multi streamed that has imprints of a sequential due to ones own ignorance. I repeat: Due to ones own ignorance. There is no one to blame, one should simply refrain from his deluded activities in relationship with other experiences. Are there signs when a sequential is going to transfer? Absolutely! If they demonstrate within their science they are literally consciously transferring a truth they have studied in religion, and then studied in material sense and create a theory, then this is a clear sign, that one is transferring. A clear example is Einsteins statement that all is energy. Are therefor all scientists sequentials? Better to state that there is but Essence that is the real sequential, the rest is scientist either on the path of liberation, or on the path of materialism. Now this is all out of the way. That scientists are not free from ignorance because of science, due to their attachments that determine that, not their education level, let me explain how this looks like through my eyes. I am first going to pick out a theory to debunk. Which is the evolution theory. Dumb excuses about "Well its not complete yet" That is just a rooky assumption to justify we can share it anyway, indoctrinate and shape the mind anyway. Which has nothing to do with science or their method. But is a case of ignorance. In such cases better to let them think rather then to swallow such things: What can we know? How do I live a moral life? So, let me share my review on that theory that I state as unwholesome, not because it is itself unwholesome, by proven by the law of action > result that it can't be, and therefor must be unwholesome. No theory is wrong in itself, its proven to be wrong because its not in accordance as a result. Evolution theory cannot be, and never will be a science fact. Because its not in accordance. And to keep this fairly simple: Adaptation doesn't prove evolution theory. Adaptation is one with the law of action>result. And shall show exactly by adaptation evolution cannot be. Evolution cannot be because Awareness, Essence is its governor. For those not believers in god, are tempted to therefor take Evolution theory to be valid. While to make this fairly simple: Adaptation is valid, and therefor evolution theory is not wholesome. Because simple life forms don't become all of the sudden out of nothing, just by accident, just spontaneously, just by chance more complex. Due to that Awareness is its governor, adaptation is. Due to chance, adaptation is not. Adaptation is. Therefor chance is not. (chance is not in play because all things are empty, phenomena arose therefor according to their circumstances and cease according to their nature, stating chance is the governor, is a result of ones previous thinking, a case of ignorance, a great lack of knowledge, not in the material sciences, but in the science of the nature of mind, Dharma). Evolution theory mixes therefor Adaptation which is another word for the law of action leading to its according results, with the idea of life forms getting more complex over time, proven by adaptation that supports it. (which is sophism of the purest kind, one has nothing to do with the other, yet the adaptation fact can explain that this is coming from an ignorant mind, and is not in need of more education considering science taught on schools, but is in need of education in Dharma, the science of the nature of mind). And must therefor be a hoax when it is imprinted and widely spread and mixed with well verified scientific ideas. Mingling credibility with non-credibility later stating that science has nothing to do with religious believes, is exactly after such mingling demonstrating as a result of not a lack of education in material sciences, but demonstrating being situated either in passions or ignorance, and should therefor become educated in the science of the nature of mind, Dharma. Now, all theories in line with Adaptation + accident, chance, out of nothing or spontaneously without cause... Can be debunked the same way. Because out of nothing, ya shall never create something. And therefor life forms don't become more complex over time due to chance as its governor. (of course one can state, this is how they work, then I state, because they are undereducated in dharma, which is what I have been sharing here, how to get rid of, which they do not promote). Now, how do I see evolution theory when I filter out the mistake... As I just stated... However, when filtering out the more complex, but replacing it with adjusting, fine tuning with what already is, becoming more flexible due to losing, the cessation of information by refraining... And reviewing not chance as its governor, but awareness, whereby the law of action and result is as the stream ends, the left over streams gets updated, due to Awareness was before the physical garments of any kind, and in viewing this so, one gets to see a perfect law of action leading to its according result, and reviews all that has to do with Darwins work as a marvel that demonstrates what we mean by adaptation, and what we mean by what if we speak about attachment. The sexual drive etc... And how this plays out on the grand screen of life, that we call reality. So was Darwin on a debunking campaign? He was and wasn't, due to his loss in life that he could not bear, this resulted in such a campaign, which led to great discoveries that side ways was from previous actions such as his curiosity and open-mindedness, however he could not escape the result of his not accepting his losses in life to be mingled with his work in the end by the same laws adaptation he was referring too. If he however would read my book that is considering his work, he would be fascinated and see his own work becoming perfect. Sublime and in full accordance with everything that is. Now that is clear what I mean by hoax, how I filter by their same laws the flaws, which can only be done properly from education of Dharma, I hope that it is also clear, that Dharma is not separated from science, but is pure science. My education is not mainstream, but is by refraining from imprints, and studying the nature of mind. Which makes science far more subtle and elegant many fail to recognize in this world, where which many think science is limited in many ways to material science. Which of course has nothing to do with science, but with their either own passion or ignorance. As a result I can have an overview over all other fields of science. So, its not horizontal, that I am on the other end, its vertical, and then the other is on the other end, and not on top, but below the top by far. Scientists in the material sciences, are attached, just like many readers here. Although having an academic study, this is no free ticket from ignorance or passions for that matter. The readers who suggest after saying: Gravity is a hoax: Oh, Aware is against science... Misses ones aim. Stating: Aware is against Einstein's theory, he is against gravity therefor against Einsteins work about gravity. Again one misses ones aim. A hoax is now explained by me, in a way that it doesn't matter rather one was right about an observation or not, its the imprint its whole wrong effort of imprinting that makes something a hoax due to an attack on someones curiosity, ones wonder of everything that is, that can only be supported, even promoted and stimulated by asking the right questions. Teachings that promote the refraining from such imprints to overcome them, which will always lead to wonder, and wonder, always leads to freedom, and freedom is understanding and understanding is one with direct knowledge. As a final word: Such hoaxes have nothing to do with the very subjects and scientific discoveries that are undertaken, but rather demonstrates by the same laws used in their methods of proving, to be a case of ignorance. A wild attack on ones curiosity and wonder about everything that is. Which I demotivate by the following question that should be widely discussed among schools, to promote their thinking instead of their ramming and bombarding, ridiculing, and skillful ways of indoctrinating young minds like some wild band of baffling under- Dharma-educated baboons: What can we know?

@WaveInTheOcean I am going to reply soon (tomorrow I hope) to your well written out comment, body has flu. Thanks, pearls of wisdom! I speak the truth Waveintheocean, I am just a conscious fool.

Of course this post is NOT about protecting anyones mind from anything, as jse goes from thread to thread trying to be the critic. However when we ask arguments, we find non. Its these days normal to just bombard without good reason, and convince others to be deluded and egotistical without having good reasons for such hateful comments, and yet in the end they still run away with reputation. So jsi, tell me, why you still did not put me on ignore?

Dear waveintheocean, Are you truly interested in my post? Because, I can critically now pick up your post, and just scratch a lot from it, so that it actually demonstrates you do are really waiting for a post coming from me, that perfectly discerns wholesome from unwholesome based on the laws of actions leading to its according results for as far as I am concerned. But of course I don't need to prove anything rather I can discern it or not (although one might be curious). I am willing to write it down for your development, sharing so that another perspective is viewed. I don't do it to debate you. If you really want that I write down my reasons concerning theories, because it has proven in the past to you to be enlightening in a way, then be careful with statements that I am not on the middle path, I would not go down that road. You state that you of course are on the middle path, and of course I am not despite all practice and attained great understanding of the law of action leading to its according results, then why bother to expect me to post anyway, explaining and discerning wholesome from the unwholesome based on the laws of actions leading to its according results (concerning the topic) which is exactly leading to the middle path?

I think you might misunderstood me, I wasn't clear enough. With what I mean with not supporting. Its the explanations they use further beside gravity as actual phenomena. Which makes a lot of things self-evident all of the sudden, that I do not support. Which would also mean, that the gravity as how it is explained, can be explained differently, due to the fact that all things are temporary in nature. The law of velocity and static electricity, electro magnetism can come into place. This does not mean I am against science. A lot of scientists are into evolution theory and big bang etc, and make this self-evident due to gravity etc. Its the explanations, the debunking of Essence. Awareness is not its governor belief, its all a big accident. And using just one explanation of a sort of gravity force to rectify it. This I don not support. I would rather say: If you are against the fact that Essence is the governor, therefor stating: The law of actions leading to its according results is nonsense, gravity replaces it, its all an accident, there is no Essence, were completely separated from each other due to it. Out of material comes the subtle, and not the other way around, there is no governor and gravity explains this. Then I say, you are against science for a fact. Because gravity does not replace anything. Its therefor a case of ignorance. If I dislike computers, it doesn't mean I am against science. However if I am debunking the law of actions leading to its results, then I am against science. Because then I fail to understand that things have causes, that this situation will lead to the next, and previous situations has led to this situation. I see science, as LAW. I see a real scientist, as an investigator of phenomenon of any kind of field, studying the phenomena in relationship with such laws. However, if someone has finished university, and is called a scientist, and says: Gravity replaces Essence, were all an accident. That has nothing to do with science. But is a case of ignorance. And this, I do not support.

EH? I don't know this guy though and have nothing against him, its the only video I saw ever with him on camera. Its his idea with the pizza that really got me. Thanks for everything though! I appreciate it.

AH! .. Thanks for bringing this up... No, I believe science also is, without the whole explanation they give about gravity for example plasma. Its the explanation and overload upon those explanations I don't buy. For example if you look into the work of Tesla. He didn't believe at all that which Einstein brought up concerning the overload explanations of gravity. To break this I must indeed investigate it further myself with a powerful lens indeed. The lens is the thing that can curve it as they wish so. However its not so that the curve should only be seen on that hight. The curvature in its calculation does not change, and I think that the weather balloons demonstrate well enough that on such hight should also be seen a curvature. However, I thank you for bringing all these things up. I find these videos you showed fascinating! Bringing such things together. I am not into buying into either these or those when it comes to flat or ball, due to the many propaganda's and my own lack in research and experience in those fields. However that I have reason to believe its flat, you also gave me great points to rather believe it is not flat, I am however not blindly believing the mainstream either NASA or Flat earth society. Thats why I am happy you brought these things up so people can make up their own mind with what is presented. Thanks again!