Aware

@WaveInTheOcean I can only show the way waveintheocean. And I can understand that what I write down shakes a lot of belief systems. And it just seems you are so restless, maybe even angry on me. And figuring out the best way to answer peoples questions is a very hard one. I put much effort in it everyday to sharpen it. In all truth, you will not understand me, I show just the way, make you think differently. And it seems, that you also gets moved by it. Create a poll, with the question, should Motus leave yes or no. And by 3 days, we will close the voting, and if its so that I should leave, I do so. But I am afraid its you that are angry with me, I cannot help that, I hope by all this writing, it might calm somehow. Take care.

No that isn to quite right. Giving the body what it needs to survive, is not unwholesome because its as well in accordance with Awareness, duty. If you would let yourself without reason die out of hunger, that is unwholesome behavior. Lets says someone is in accordance by seclusion from unwholesome behavior, and someone has a sickness that is very very painful, to hard to bear. But one is awakened, Attained Awareness. Then its not unwholesome to commit suicide. Please understand, Drinking alcohol and taking drugs for fun, is unwholesome because the body nor Awareness needs it. Its born out of passion and ignorance. Not eating and dying yourself out just because of laziness to take care of the body, is still ignorance.

Hide and seek is the game that stops. There is Waveintheocean, no puppet somewhere in ones brain that makes the show. Your friend, is called bob, but bob is nowhere to be found. Lets bring this closer: You are at the moment ignorant, by thinking and believing that there is a separated I and as a result of that, you put up that example. Can you say when you are sick, now I want to be better, and it worked, your disease is gone? Or claim: I will not grow old and will not die, and you don't become older and don't die? You can't, so the same is, with everything else, we can influence it, and not control it. The beLIEf you can, while it can't, the beLIEf you are separated from anything else and as a result act upon it, is being ignorant proven by that behavior, not because there is something physical that IS ignorant, but by the fact of behavior that is not in accordance with the fact that all things are temporary in nature. So its not who or what, (all things are temporary, no self). Bob is there for the result of his thinking, and is becoming that which what he is thinking.

Going to parties, drinking etc, is not wholesome, because its not needed for the body, nor for Awareness. Its only born out ones Passions or ignorance. There is no separated "I". Its an illusion, nothing good can come out of that which is born out of passions or ignorance. Where did the drinks go? To the "I"??? Maybe to Awareness then??? In my view, it goes to the stomach and so on. Its just the body that was poisoned in the name of an illusion. Now put a lot of such people together, that belief in an "I" that is separated and see what happens.

@Stoica Doru Its a fish that struggles because it is on dry land. The same happens with the mind in meditation.

This is an awful indeed, but I am not stating that she wanted this nor that she deserved this. I state, that rather someone wants it or not, that these things happen due to ignorance of the fact that we are Awareness. I am exactly explaining, to seclude from worldly activities and unwholesome deeds, by this seclusion, develop wholesome deeds. Imagine both the raper and the victim would have followed my advice. And no, I don't use psychedelics, I plea against it. You can ask Leo about it. I have a clear view about it, which I shared with him. But I do not see you as separated from me, you can throw at me what you want, its not going to change. I have written down an article Nutshell + in-depth teachings of enlightenment... There I explain the whole bunch of it, from the cycle of life and death to ridding one of the illusion of separation.

Another magician then? (its the same evolved ministry)

@WaveInTheOcean See, that is why I said, I only see many suffering, and some not. Your mind, does not differ from mine. Only some crave (being attached to desire) and others not. If this craving (attachment) is gone, there is yes, body, and Awareness.

That is the point! That is not true. There is a way out. Which I explained often already. Its by the law that everything is temporary in nature, everything happens by action and result, that there is a way out, get rid of the attachment. The reason one can kill ones self is due to that Awareness can't be killed. Nothing is not you. Nor is everything you. That from nothing not comes something, and from something not nothing, let that be clear. That Awareness is not something, does not mean it is nothing. That it is not nothing, does not mean its something or a combination of it. Another reason is, from nothing comes not something, due to that Awareness wasn't born, and is not equal to nothing or something, but supreme due to being all pervasive, which is nothing not, and something not. These are polarity based. I say highly complex, because it can be understood by the law of action and result, and the knowledge with it when one drops his attachments to the fruits of any result. Awareness was and is still through all these forms such as biologist and monkeys. Its by their actions and results they end up there and there, from animal kingdom to heavens. Awareness does not change in that, however, it can be so that one has experiences of previous forms and imposed it. Everything is so interwoven, I would wish you could see that. With that I can't help. I share for those who have eyes to see.

@brovakhiin Would you in that case not search the base of your disbelief? Because that one is rooted much deeper then the actual belief in this video. Namely society has taught you that this is not possible. Why not being critical that you are so quickly in seeking how its not true, that that is exactly to be critical about in the first place.

How can my mind, be separated from your mind? I don't see a base for that. I only see, many are suffering, and few are not.

Oh, that is just everything you Truly are. Awareness=Pure Love.. The more one secludes from unwholesome behavior, the more and more loving one becomes to all living creatures.

@WaveInTheOcean I can only see who I am not. I understand that people might think, well Motus, those are just your ideas. But I can't deny it. All things do are temporary in nature and this brings laws with it due to this fact. The more attachments go, the more that which is unborn, the relationship grows. It results in knowledge, and this knowledge is exact. Its according to the law of action and result. I am compassionate, and feel in my heart I should share it. However, I can see and feel, that I wish you all could see it. Its so clear to me, and see that I was not the first, All the Buddhas, and the Arahants that were his followers, did see this as well. It seems only waveintheocean, that I cannot share my exact vision, my understanding, due to the limitations such as language and the other that is not prepared enough. But at least, let there be a few who do can understand it quickly.

@Dodoster I am afraid 99.99% grasps not what I am saying. And this counts for almost all of my posts. As soon as someone is Attaining Awareness, it is not bound, then how many worlds, different histories were there from the polarity perspective? I am saying that there is no vast source, so for example its more likely that those believers in that we come from monkeys, themselves were once monkeys and other animals in form of intelligences (spirit), and find it plausible that all came from apes, it is more likely that that is true, then that we actually truly come from apes. Awareness was already, so one of those people might have had some experience about previous creations of himself, and accidentally believed it was for all. Comes up with a logic and so on. And is at that moment just in yet another game. I just see clearly, with my vision, that all is a result of their thinking, shaping intelligences. When I see someone brought down by a police force that first has been chasing, I just see a group of wild lions, that were their previous parts that exist simultaneously. When I see all that debating, I find it no wonder they think they came from apes. I see how they make politics. I find it more plausible that they all just create their own history due to that there is no vast source, that their Supreme, their true self is the governor of their worlds, Awareness. I find it not strange that if people drop their belief systems and seek hard, drop their attachments, they see their True selves sharing all the information from what was not born, in relation of what is born, which is grand, highly complex and filled with compassion like no other.

I also wonder rather people do not experience already that they are multi "incarnated" intelligences? That are converting different planes of existence already through their "Dreams" that are to real to state to be a dream, feeling parts of them die as if family died, which is just another part of them on a different plane of existence. No one here already experiencing this? I can hardly believe that people here would be that lost in the deceptive game set, that really no one on this forum actually understands this.

They speak about how it gets debunked by "anything goes", and that this isn't plausible for science as it is nihilism. I think they are absolutely right, that the right solution to this is that the only thing that does exist is our suffering. And this is no nihilism. Science uses the excuse however that "anything goes" is nihilism, there for nothing else exists and we can just do science as we please. Which is of course first class sophism. Of course it is a wrong view. Our suffering does exist, and is the only thing that truly exists, besides this, nothing exists. Basing a non dual system on this should make science much more responsible, almost morally improving on where to put attention on, invest in, and what not.

Atoms Do They Really Exist? The actual question is: what is? Things are not, there for they are. Existence of everything in one line: X is not X, there for X. There is not a single thing to be found. In a tree, the tree is not found, within the body the body is not found, within a cell a cell is not found, and in an atom an atom is not found. If things would be the thing, investigation would not occur. IT does occur, there for its not the thing itself, but a composite. There is no thing presented as being the thing, there for, all things are a composite, nothing stands on its own. Hereby comes the law, everything is temporary in nature therefor everything must be a composite, nothing stands on its own. Now, let us go deeper. All you can sense, that which you see as outside. All is a composite. All that happens within you, is also a composite (mental phenomenon). All phenomenon are temporary in their nature, they exist, persist for a while and cease to exist. Due to that everything outside is a composite, and inside, there for only attachments to belief systems exists, persist for a while and eventually ceases to exist. So the real question that leaves now, is, does I have attachments to my belief system? If one would ask in the end, what is left, what am I? Then the answer is Awareness. It knows no equal (is all pervasive, cannot be compared), there for nothing exists besides the attachment to our belief systems. Our attachments to belief systems, is suffering. So one could as well state: Suffering only exists. Besides that, nothing exists. All things come and go according to the conditions they arose from, and will perish according to their true nature. So, one should contemplate suffering, and not the existence of atoms. All things are soulless

For people that hold a wrong idea of enlightenment I am a nightmare on the forum, and to those who are not holding a wrong idea about enlightenment I am insightful. Wise and intelligent people are praised by the Truth seekers, but are hated among the sense servants. Among the wise and intelligent, is as being with family, being with fools, is as being among enemies. So may this forum be filled with wise and intelligent people, to advance and share. And let the fools see their own foolishness, thereby becoming wise and intelligent.

And he does that by letting this person be ignored. Let him share all the good words, morality and insights, but let him be ignored. @Bart Can you see and understand what Mia beautifully put down in words? The greatest battle however, is that to overcome yourself. One can conquer a 1000 of soldiers, but greater is he who conquered himself if you seclude from wrong friends, surely, if you accumulate seclusion from unwholesomeness, you will often find yourself streaming to those who are wise. When you meet wise people, and they are as wise as you are, you can advance together. If one is wiser then you are, you must ensure you can stay close to this person, staying in touch, to learn from him so you can overcome yourself, that is difficult to do. If you find no one, then accept this, and accumulate wholesome deeds on your own. At the moment, you are realizing that the bonds you seem to have with the world and those concerned about the world, seemed strong in the beginning, but demonstrated to be a weak bond in the end, those refraining from weak bonds, forge unbreakable bonds within themselves that seemed weak at first, but proof to be lasting in the end.

@Venus You are confusion love with lust. First get rid of your lust. That is what is firing up everything. Everything is on fire by lust. It makes people bewildered. That which is left when lust is gone, surely that is another story. Then you love her, but all others as well. You then can start build upon the good thoughts due to clarity of mind. In fact can no one actually truly love, when one has no view that we all are in essence one, and there for not indifferent from one another. All things in nature exist for a while, consist, and eventually cease to exist. Only suffering exists, persist for a while and ceases to exist, apart from suffering, nothing exists or seizes to exist. But in your mind its probably: Only she exists. The cause is lust. The solution is refraining from that which let lust sprout and sustain itself by the sense impressions you get everywhere. If you truly truly want to get rid of this lust, which is hard of course, then you must refrain from to much food and drinking. Bring it back to once a day eating, in the morning, and drink mostly distilled water. Also get rid of to much sleep (first sleep as the body finds rest finally), then work in letting that go. Bring your attention on yourself, memories etc all happen within your mind, but remain concentrated on the fact we all are in essence Awareness. She isn't really there as much as you think she is. Another person walks by, and sees her and walks on. So it basically is attachment to desire that is the problem everything gets fired up. To be clear: You don't need her specifically, to love. Make yourself whole again, your mind is wounded. Refrain from worldly activities if can, work lust out of your system, and surely you will see my point. (Lust makes people forget we are in essence 1, so may you attain back your memory.)

@MHarris Physics rules! Sense of self is, by force of lust. Get your main focus on how girls, nor boys, or anyone is not separated from you. As long as this doesn't change, you only send out to the environment someone else is something to gain. You can't gain yourself, hold yourself, for you must die eventually, so get rid of this view. 3 things can be observed about you by the world of the senses, and 5 cannot be observed by the world of the senses. Which 5 cannot be directly observed by the 5 senses? View. Intentions. Effort. Attention. Concentration. Which things can be seen by the world of the 5 senses? Speech. Act. Livelihood. The 5 things that cannot be observed by the world of the 5 senses, should be, purified. The 3 things that can be seen by the world of the 5 senses, should be, purified. Technique: Be extremely clear: What is my view about me? What are my views about others? What are my views of others about me? What is the view of others about me? What is the preferred idea of me? What blocks me to attain the preferred idea of me? What do others think that block me to attain the preferred idea of yourself? (don't discuss, no twist conversation, accept their word as truth until proven differently, if proven differently, be glad this is so, and thank them for their feedback). Write down in all honesty. Ask some people you trust to answer the questions out of the list that are for your environment to answer. And finally when you have it, I want you to clearly meditate, investigate, what truly within yourself is blocking it. Find the cause, find its fuel source (the part that craves), and find out how to tire it out by something to seclude from that keeps triggering it. Another point that can help with your investigation, is first to pinpoint it about yourself, what truly seems to be blocking, and review this how this might be general to all sentient beings. If its not for all sentient beings, seek what is for all sentient beings, that relate to it the most of all things. Then finally lock in what truly is connected to your own view, what you do different and start to understand that which you found indeed to be common to all sentient beings, and solve the misunderstanding, and use this to fuel your strive to change yourself for the best. All others who read this, can use this technique as well for a lot of other questions e.g: - What holds me back to be the loving and kind person that I wish to be? - What holds me back to be mindful and responsible? Remember, although the above is much work, but use it as an opportunity to change your way of thinking, literally thinking differently and meet others like minded.

If you truly want to attract, drop it! Get rid of your Lust! No one is interested in your lustful thoughts, endeavor and complexion you try to hide and ask yourself here, how you can "do this best or that better because I get caught in the act all the time". The only ones interested are those that make you unhappy, make your life miserable like you do upon yourself when bewildered. First start a good relationship with yourself, dropping the lust of yours that makes you bewildered. Make meeting people a side effect of your own journey of advancement where others are there for the same reason, also to improve themselves. In this way if the relationship is born out of refrain of lust, but as a cooperation in advancement, surely this is the way of meeting people to be happy with.

Attachment = Devil. Ask illusion to be real. Awareness = All pervasiveness. Let me ask again: Illusion, be real. Awareness, be Awareness. Nothing happens, just silence.

Did a major shift in awareness occur.? How can you say? Are you absolutely clear now of what you are.? How can you say? Are you the physical human body you've always thought you were? How can you say? Do you feel infinite, without boundaries or location? How can you say? Do you actually understand, or are you in a temporary meditative high? Merely speculation. Its almost christmas, millions upon millions will light candles. You think when those candles come to their end, you can say which direction they took? Rather they entered a shift, entered another body, is infinite or has boundaries? Can you say something about their location, or if it is a meditative state or not, what it is where they went? Please readers, think.