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@Leo Gura Yea Leo, I know. It's not the time, it's the pain, the darkness and the confusion that bother me about those things... I'm coming out of major depression... not 100% out yet but I'm progressing slowly and hope to reach baseline in I hope a couple of months. This existential shit is exactly what got me into this sinkhole so what you are mentioning here seems to be synonymous with self-mutilation from where I am standing. I mean, I would never say something publicly like meditation=horseshit, but i know I tried so many times and retried and have a massive resistance against doing it and I know that resistance is coming from this feeling. Anyway, I think this whole awakening to society's bullshit journey takes too much blood and I'm not convinced anymore if Truth really merits so much blood sacrifice. Time will sort out this out. It's alright.

@Leo Gura I appreciate your answer Leo but I don't understand it. For me the distinction between real and unreal is tangible. Based on your reasoning though my last night's dream and my reality today are both equally real or unreal. Ok but I perceive them differently. So how is it true what you are saying? Either what you're saying is untrue, or it's true but I can't grasp it due to my consciousness level. Your talk on the absolute will not convince me for sure until I experience it for myself. Honestly, i think that's the only thing that can resolve my confusion, talking about it sure won't!

@Leo Gura How do you know which perception of reality is the Truth? The one you see on a chemical or the one you see normally. I'm not convinced Leo that the Truth is what you see on a chemical. Why should i be? I saw your video on this but you didn't really explain your reasoning on why and how you know, just that you do. I did some experimenting myself and for years i thought that must be the real Truth i saw! But on basis of what? That it felt more fundamental, truer and realer. What if it just felt like that coz I felt it truer due to a change in brain chemistry? I don't want to be a pain in the ass here but this is a real dilemma! For me at least. It seems like a strange notion to me that I can only perceive reality in my normal state in a way that is qualitatively inferior to the reality a chemical "lets" you see. The world seems so real just in its everyday form, I can touch things, I can feel them, I can drop a glass vase on the floor that shatters into pieces. I see and touch the pieces of glass that I broke with my own body and the floor. Other people can see the glass pieces, they can talk about it and there seems to be consensus that the vase is shattered and that's what reality is. Hell, the guy can even cut his finger on it and a 2nd guy smell the blood. I am seriously confused on what reality is!

@kurt Re your: "Who do you think you are, Albert Camus?" Don't shame people. Treat others the way you want others to treat you. Do you want to be shamed, bullied, or put to the "right" place? Ok, I didn't think so either. You can use this moment to your advantage. Think about what compulsed you to behave in this way. Investigate the root cause, increase your awareness on it, work on correcting it. Result? You will step into a state where you cause lot less emotional suffering for yourself as well as other people. Moments you screw up bring with themselves the seed of a learning opportunity. You just need to harness the power of the seed. Awesome, right?

It's a great way to achieve greatly and stay safe in the Matrix ? I'm not sure if I understand correctly what Leo is saying. I'll write it down here so Leo will have the opportunity to correct me. Here's what I understood: If you maximise your logic, you will maximise your understanding of how humans perceive reality. aka 2% of reality. (Or less...just using 2% for illustrative purposes) It's hard to understand that you spend your human life and all cognitive capabilities to explore the 2% coz it's not logical. But what if your default perception of reality, of which logic is a feature, will lead you to only see the 2% hence you think it's the 100%. If this is true, then elevating logic to the heights of end-all-be-all is clearly stupid. Why would u bother wasting your life on getting to know 2% of Truth, specially when the tool to get to know the 2% aka logic is in polar opposite to what's needed for the 98%. Logic needs to go in the trash to get to know the other 98%. I guess the flip side is since 99.9% of the human population is quasi-unconscious, society will not reward you for being conscious or going beyond the 2% coz society cannot reward u for something that it doesn't see as existing. So by using logic as your core value u already reach the minimum threshold to maximise your position within society, so you're super efficient. So as I understand if you choose logic, then u choose the 2% and choose achieving greatly and efficiently and safely in society. If you choose consciousness, you choose the 98%+2% and u choose Truth. However you need to invest 10000x more time and emotional labour into it than into logic and society doesn't give a rat's ass about it. So if you want to be king of the Matrix, this option is really inefficient and stupid. So clearly, you first need to decide if you really want the Truth or if you want to be king of Matrix. These are the 2 endpoints, so the probability of reaching either endpoint is super small but you need to decide towards which endpoint you direct yourself on the spectrum. Clearly I think the Truth is not for everyone. Most people want to want the Truth, but in fact they don't want it. ?

I will buy this book for sure. I wanted to discuss here though my mixed views about one of the major premises on which the book is built. I am wondering what do you guys think about it. Maybe you will help me sort out my cognitive dissonance re this topic. Principle 1 says "Success, however you may define it, is achievable if you collect the right field-tested beliefs and habits". What this really means to me is that you must understand the recipe created by another person and follow that recipe in your life, then you will have the result of the other person. First of all, I think this is not entirely true: the quality of the implementation will be a factor of many things not solely your intention, therefore the quality of the outcome will be variable. Anyway, let's suppose that you are in total control of every internal and external circumstance of life, able to do a perfect implementation and get the same result as the guy you copied the recipe from. I have a massive resistance towards employing this methodology although I do think it is incredibly useful and may also work. It seems so foreign and uncreative to me to follow someone else's manuscript, recipe or guidebook. I takes the creation and thinking process out of my hands and puts it into somebody else's. I am also capped by the imagination of the guy I am copying, whereas I feel I would not be capped not following a recipe. I also have the impression (maybe wrongly) that what made these guys so successful in the 1st place is that they were not following the recipe of someone else, but created something singular and 4 standard deviations different from what everyone else was doing. On the other hand, it seems so crazy to have the opportunity to get the recipe of Peter Thiel, Elon Musk ... and all those other billionaires and titans and not use it. If I am able to reproduce the mental processes of Elon Musk and become like him and achieve what he has, is it necessarily a bad thing that I copied it from someone else? If I have the result, does it really matter if it's 100% my original thinking and mental output or if it's 20%? Anyway, I think that the problem with this line of reasoning is that it's overly black or white, this or that. I can profit tremendously from following the principles of someone else and creating the precise recipe myself based on those principles. I wanted to share this with you guys as it's quite confusing to hold 2 opposing opinions something at the same time and wanted to know your lines of reasoning. Check out this article on the mental model of Elon Musk and topic re originality vs copying on The Cook and the Chef: Musk’s Secret Sauce