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@blazed just like they did in the video with one who they gave real medicine to and "placebo" medicine you could test someone who actually does meditation and someone who do a "placebo" version of it(for example they believe what they are doing have the same effect as meditation) and then they both only do it once and test both for the results. If the one who actually did the meditation and the effect didn't fade away it would mean it more likely to be real since if it was the placebo effect it would fade away. However if the placebo effect produces the same result as meditation it could mean meditation is just a placebo effect

@InfinitePotential "but the fact that your beliefs can heal your body is profound af" agree

@blazed people who mediate usually do it more than one time throughout a longer period of time. So it does't really qualify as "proper evidence" since the placebo effect could have the same result if one also did equally as much. If you would need good evidence you would need someone who just meditated once and would have a longer effect than someone who used the placebo effect once by comparing the two this way it's more likely to get an accurate result.

@blazed the placebo effect can actually produce an effect on the body however it usually fade away is what they explained in this video near the end. if meditation works longer than the placebo effect with just doing both for equally long time and meditation works longer of the two then I suppose that would mean meditation is real since if it was a placebo effect it would fade away also i am not sure if taking drugs would qualify as the placebo effect if they actually have an effect on the body that you don't produce your self

@blazed the video talk about how thought can have effect at the physical body also at near the end of the video

@blazed but how do they know that isn't the placebo effect at play? How can you tell the difference? "the scientific power of the placebo effect" from reading on the placebo effect it seems like it could have the same effect meditation seem to have does anyone know if there is any scientific research on this?

@Ether could you elaborate? What do you mean only work onces? And why do you think that is the case?

@Ether but how do you know that isn't just the placebo effect? Because that would be exactly what you would feel because of the placebo effect if the placebo effect where behind it.

I think one of the biggest reasons why people don’t accomplish goals including my self is the lack of being determined and how you chose to achieve it (being so determined that it no longer matters what stand in your way because you will overcome it to accomplish your goal) would be awesome on a video on going all in on something. And how to motivate your self to become determined. (Of course while being responsible)

Take more responsibility and action

energy management: eat healthily, sleep well, exercise. Do the work same time every day and end the work same time every day. wake up early and do it early so you will have a lot of energy available to do the work A ritual to tell the brain its time to focus and a shutdown complete ritual to tell the brain its time to relax Focus on one thing at a time no multitask focus early in the morning but still get at least 8 hours sleep or enough so that you don't feel tired have a strong why (but also be okay not having a strong why and be able to get it done anyway) Deep work tips: Focus with great intensity. Embrace boredom due to attention residue which minimizes focus. Study in isolation with absolutely no distractions no social media, no phone or any other device except for what you need to work on nothing should be able to distract you. schedule every minut of your day write down how many hours you focus the 4 disciplines of execution know what you will do before so you don't have to think about it during the study/focus time Learning techniques: The Feynman technique(also useful for self-testing) , explain like I am five, Deliberate practice, purposeful practice, total immersion for language, create a project, active recall, spaced repetition, always try to get to the aha moment(don't skip it on anything) quiz and recall, The question book method. Work like Theodore Roosevelt(add a deadline that is drastically shorter than your usual deadline so you have to increase your focus in order to get it in time) The diffused mode and focused mode Work under pressure(like the work like Theodore Rosevelt technique) Have a specific goal you want to reach(for example 10 pages every time you study) practice testing, the testing effect, retrieval practice, self-test, create a schedule and a plan Make productivity/studying a habit Have a productivity system do an ultra learning project (Scott h young) overlearning (learn more than you have to which can help make the skill/knowledge automatic) Deconstruct the skill for example focus only on some parts of the skill instead of everything at once. Soft deadlines and hard deadlines If learning from a video watch it at a higher speed but where you still are able to tell what they are saying The mastery habit(always try to master your chosen topic) The finisher habit(always finish what you started) push yourself to go through the discomfort of learning something when it gets uncomfortable(with responsibility) create a metaphor of what you are trying to learn create a story of what you are trying to learn to help memory the memory palace prepare how you are going to learn something before you start learning it in order to do it more effectively(searching for the best ways and techniques to learn the topic) self-education recursive learning Time blocking The textbook method(write your own text book about the topic) The Feynman Notebook Method (little bit diffrent from the Feynman technique, it should be creating a textbook through using the feynman technique or just filling up a whole note book by using the feynman technique instead of only using it once) Learn it once find an expert who can give you immediate feedback on how you are doing and what you are doing be aware of that looking for effective learning techniques can both be a time saver and a time waster Watch cat videos and memes to ace your study class dance like micheal jackson to impress your teacher when you walk into the classroom. Headbang your head against the book scream WHYYYYYY!??? play beethovens 5th symphony cal newport interviews about deep work and how to become a straigt a student: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgfOHQKldy0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9K4_3BZz8s

wake up same time every day all the basic stuff like eating etc. begin and end work same time every day (early in the morning 5 am so it's easier to concentrate) drink 1 cop of coffee to begin work to tell the brain its time to focus a shutdown complet ritual to say that you are done with work and can relax afterwards

I recommend looking at hes othes videos they are likely to have something you can use for this.

@noeggs4brunch that's okay. I actually see that around here a lot my self but it's probably because most around here don't have a professional education with this. But the reason why I thought it would be useful is because of your title and how effective the technique is to deal with emotions. Sometimes the reason why we suffer is because we hold back our emotions and we keep suffering because we keep holding back but by fully feeling them you in a way your body get rid of the emotions in a healthy way and you are likely not to suffer from the emotions for a very long period of time. There is also other benefits from it for example i have heard its a good way to get over fears. Sometimes i have noticed from experience that it helps to be 100% honest about your self not necessarily to others but what you say to your self or explain a situation 100% honest to your self. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/compassion-matters/201601/should-you-feel-or-flee-your-emotions

fully feel your emotions with zero resistance while being in the present moment and completely relax your body 24/7. I have found it as a really useful technique to deal with emotions effectively. Hope you can use it.

As far as i know deliberate pratice is science including the finding of no talent. And you didn't belive it. which is what i was referring too. https://www.amazon.com/Peak-Secrets-New-Science-Expertise-ebook/dp/B011H56MKS

what makes you think I don't understand them fully? Sorry, but from the looks of it, it seems like you don't understand it fully because if you did you would have known that the kind of practice dude talked about is what deliberate practice is about or at least already be aware of it. Deliberate practice is practice at the edge of ones comfort zone with a mentor who can give you constant immediate feedback on what you are doing to improve your work and the one who practice does it with intense concentration. You also have a specifically designed practice exercise where you practice something specific and you focus on weakness and practice that specific thing over and over again with the goal of improving it. There is probably more to it but its a few of the details of what deliberate practice is. The father of Deliberate practice Anders Erickson who have studied this for 20+ years or something and haven't found anything like talent but was able to understand how people got good and talent wasn't one of them, Other people who have studied this haven't found it either like the book "talent is overrated" for example which point towards how you really get good is deliberate practice and not talent. https://www.amazon.com/Talent-Overrated-Separates-World-Class-Performers/dp/1591842948 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MsD3mpvJ3M&t=1349s Anders Erickson talks about that they didn't found any talent in less than 10 minutes in the interview. Sorry, but you can't just disbelieve science and then that automatically makes it false. You can't just say E=mc2 or Gravity is not true just because one doesn't agree with it. You need to back it up with evidence that supports that it's false and then that would be investigated further by some other scientist probably and if they come up with the same conclusion as you did then it is more likely its false because you actually have evidence to back it up. Neil degrasse Tyson talks about this. Its okay to not like things but that doesn't make them false. (it doesn't change the evidence that supports it or disproves it. That is what you need other evidence for)

just read so good they can't ignore you by cal newport. It gives a pretty good description to know if you are on the right path towards your life purpose. One tip from the book is that passion doesn't come first(cal says you will be looking for a long time if you think so). Its a side effect of getting good at something you find interesting, meaningful and/or give an impact on the world in some way.

It depends on what you want to earn the money from but otherwise I think its good to look at cal newports so good they can't ignore you book(one of the things from the book is to get good at rarer and valuable skills) and hes top performer course which could help you to know how to achieve it.

mental health should be above anything else(and the other things you mentioned besides enlightenment). I don't pursue enlightenment at all but I do pursue personal growth.

I thought this was pretty interesting and may be relevant to the forum (if not feel free to delete it) and thought it may be interesting to others here too.

happy birthday leo

haven't give up yet i think it helps to have a strong why and self-discipline or grit and create habits so productivity becomes automatic and then only focus on one thing at a time likely with a deadline and in a form of a project or plan then action. https://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2018/04/17/commit-long-term-goals/ scott h young have some good information on this in my opinion

@Robert just becarefull about wish full thinking because in science what is true is true until proven otherwise and you can't just ignore the true like that then you are just in denial. You can't just chose what is true that is not how it works. If you are saying deliberate pratice isn't true then please provide the evidence to support it. Anders erickson talk about him self that it's true and have always been able to explain how somebody became good in hes book peak performance. And there is also books like deep work(cal newport says deep work is a part of deliberate pratice), talent is overrated thats should talk about this there is a lot of research that point towards deliberate pratice is true and that says talent is either not true or not as important as we think related to becoming world class at something as mentioned above. This is not just my opinion. What really matters is how much time you spend on deliberate pratice or purpose ful pratice on rarer and valuable skills. The more rarer and valuable skills you are good at the better chance you have of becoming so good you can't be ignored which cal newport also talks about if you just are good at common skills and that isn't that valuable you are likely not getting that much attention. One reason may be because they would be able easily to just find someone else with a similar skill set as the skills are common. The more you pratice the better chance you also have of developing mental representations which explain why people who are good at what they do don't necessarily or always have to pratice at something because they already have build the mental representations required. all of this is based on research i have read i have already mentioned some. An other source would be the top performer course by cal newport and hes book so good they can't ignore you. https://qz.com/707205/successful-people-dont-have-natural-talent-they-have-something-thats-much-more-important/ and sorry but did you actually read my comment because i even talk about how tall you are, are the only thing they found that came close to the definition of talent