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@Shakazulu Your English is really good sorry if I am rude but Its probably more about how you explained it.

@Shakazulu Sorry but I didn't get that impression.

@Shakazulu It just means that it isn't a limit.(personal development isn't about limits anyway it's about growing from them) Besides gods limits doesn't seem to come from god rather they come from man and that is something that is possible to chance. Just look at the past and where we are now and then whats possible in the future. "limits" today doesn't mean they are limits tomorrow. If it was a real limit there wouldn't even be anyone who could live over 100 years old.

but there is already people who have lived longer than 100 years? just google it

Balancing theory and pratice It have been really useful because it have helped me to figure out how to do things effectively in pratice.

@UpperClassWhiteBoy Not sure what you are talking about as it's a long time since i last saw the video. I just remembered it and thought it may be relevant. Otherwise the best thing i can recommend is to do what the emotional hard thing(hes video on one simple rule to ace life) and fully feel emotion with zero resistance (how to deal with strong negative emotions) and take 100% responsibility. (Responsibility vs blame why you are 100% responsible for everything) hes video on the art of solving problems permanently. And true growth vs fake growth. They may not sound that great motivational speaking. Sorry but in the end you will have to face the situation even after finding the right sort of motivational theory to get you through it. It's still okay to go at your own pace of course i just think this can be important to be aware of. The quicker you are able to face it the sooner you are likely to overcome it. How ever balance theory and pratice is still extremely useful just be aware of how well you are balancing them. john sonmez have a video on how to convince yourself to do something emotional difficult and one of the things he says is to go through the fire One thing i think can be help full is to try to directly solve/face the problem (with full responsibility) so maybe just finding any situation where you are facing this you could use it as a challenge to overcome it.

look into energy management

What difference does it make? It's pretty simple to find your life purpose if you go with the craftman mindset just pick something interesting and be so good they can't ignore. You are likely to get worse of with the passion mindset which is to think passion come first rather than after getting good.

I don't really think dreams mean anything rather they are like a recreation of what we think and feel a bit like to prepeare the mind at least that is what i have observed from experience. If you think about something in a vivid way it will probably end up some way in the next dream. Especially if you do it right before falling asleep.

The placebo effect is when a person get a fake cure/treatment but it seems to work because the person who use it think it works or believe it will work not because the treatment actually works. how would we know it really does work and it's not just the placebo effect at play?

@Dodo thanks for the apology. One of the things with the placebo effect is that the effect fades away where if you have taken a real solution it may have been more permanent so deepening on what kind or results you are looking for it matters what you are doing to achieve the results to make sure you get the best benefits from doing what's required. I recommend watching a video from ted that i have linked on the thread earlier which talk about the placebo effect

@Dodo I am not saying it doesn't work in fact this thread isn't even about if placebo works or not. But you where probably being sarcastic or wrote placebo instead of meditation or you where trying to imply something? And what you said below wasn't very nice to say. And didn't add to the conversation either.

I doubt that most people want to do evil things. There is also many different kind of people so you can't really put everyone in to one category.

@moon777light the placebo effect have been shown to have real consequences on the body so it's hard to tell. They talk about it in the ted video i linked earlier.

@SgtPepper i am asking for scientific research related to studys done on if meditation is placebo or not if there is any real difference between the two. It seems like that study is just on the effect of meditation not the difference between meditation and the placebo effect

@SgtPepper someone have already posted that video and I responded to it i have been aware of meditation for a long time i am just looking for a better understanding of what it is because at the moment it doesn't seem much different from the placebo effect

@moon777light to me it does but what matters to you is up to you. knowing the truth about meditation gives a much clearer idea of what it is and if it turns out it's not the placebo effect at all it could be worth doing it but if it's just the placebo effect there may be some downsides to doing it like the effects fadying away and not being a real solution(it would be like getting those fake pills in the placebo effect study) and possibly meditation not being what people say it is(or just being a temporary solution) if this is the case it may be better to spend ones focus on something else that may have better benefits to you in my opinion.

What are the most important things to you that you want to accomplish but didn't have the time to do before? I would do that. Or alternative work on personal development/awareness

@blazed just like they did in the video with one who they gave real medicine to and "placebo" medicine you could test someone who actually does meditation and someone who do a "placebo" version of it(for example they believe what they are doing have the same effect as meditation) and then they both only do it once and test both for the results. If the one who actually did the meditation and the effect didn't fade away it would mean it more likely to be real since if it was the placebo effect it would fade away. However if the placebo effect produces the same result as meditation it could mean meditation is just a placebo effect

@InfinitePotential "but the fact that your beliefs can heal your body is profound af" agree

@blazed people who mediate usually do it more than one time throughout a longer period of time. So it does't really qualify as "proper evidence" since the placebo effect could have the same result if one also did equally as much. If you would need good evidence you would need someone who just meditated once and would have a longer effect than someone who used the placebo effect once by comparing the two this way it's more likely to get an accurate result.

@blazed the placebo effect can actually produce an effect on the body however it usually fade away is what they explained in this video near the end. if meditation works longer than the placebo effect with just doing both for equally long time and meditation works longer of the two then I suppose that would mean meditation is real since if it was a placebo effect it would fade away also i am not sure if taking drugs would qualify as the placebo effect if they actually have an effect on the body that you don't produce your self