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@Leo Gura Of course not, I just had some hopes that you could change, but seems that you are stubborn as a mule (same you accuse me of). But the difference is that, one of us actually knows who is the right one and who is stuck in delusions. I have my responsibility to tell you that you are lost and trapped in your ego along with your followers. It isn't hard to gather people like this because of how much ego is in this world. Christ mind is extremely rare and you have not the wisdom to see yet, because you lack consciousness and light. I always preferred to collaborate rather than going against someone, but your views have also become very extreme towards Jesus that is simply not based in truth of any sort like you think it is. You are against him because your mind is too dark and is automatically against light beings such as Jesus.

You have not found God nor your original Self, what you've found is the reduced mind separated from it. You simply were good at increasing the distortion of the Ego. And now pretty much in direct opposition to God. You are living a privileged life that allows you the luxury of continued dissociation and lack of motivation/laziness to find what is beyond the reduced/distorted mind you've made. It is bad faith of you to paint Jesus as some "bearded man", you are not even close to/comparable to the state of consciousness he is/was in. I don't know what happened to you to have caused you to lose your way to such an extent. That's what God wants me to tell you, there's little hope in you and your followers at this point.

@Thought Art It's not something I can easily explain here, because you guys are a lot more "logic leaning" than "heart leaning" than where I was when I found "Jesus". The "heart aspect" of awakening is not easy to teach as you can imagine, other than through certain demonstrations from me and your own discovery. And this aspect is what makes me still very alien to you. I would say this is perhaps the key to the block to where I am. As well, most of my life was an escape from hell, such that no teacher could understand or help me except for Jesus. I know it sounds cliche, but in a sense he "saved me". And perhaps the lack of such kind of experiences like I had is what prevents people from awakening further as well.

Well, that's not my call, it has to be from you genuinely rather than forced. For me it is genuine and nobody is forcing me. And it depends on what you want to do with that after.

It is emphasized because almost nobody has rediscovered this state since the creation of this universe where your mind has split off from it, except as realized in Jesus. It is going to be very tricky to get anyone here, because of how tricky this work really is.

Yes and I'm saying there is more mind to be found than all of that. But it requires additional spiritual work.

@Thought Art You're not really listening to me, like, I keep telling you it's a higher state, that you obviously just cannot recognize right now, which is a common problem.

It matters because hardly anyone has reached here, and it exists as its own unique state. And I am trying to share that this is the mind you came from originally. And you guys are missing out from it in my honest opinion. There is so much profundity in this state that I hardly care about much else in this world as a result, comparatively..

But I am not, I am just at a higher state of consciousness that you can't yet understand from your current state. I am just pointing out that, almost everyone thinks they're my teacher, spiritual or traditional ones, but I know they are not. I just want to point out how easy it is. I'm sure you have had experiences where you run into people who are less awake/aware than you that think they're your teacher. I'm just trying to make you aware of this potential "pitfall".

The problem is you really believe right now you are "my teacher", this is how tricky this whole work is in the first place, is to figure out who is your teacher because you can really deceive yourself there.

Not so much rats, more cats I would say. Cats are pretty close to me.

Well, it's not equal to "rat awakening" or other aspects. It is simply more conscious than everything else. Or I wouldn't be sitting here constantly fighting you guys over it.

One of the many tricks you keep playing on yourselves.

This is simply false, but you cannot verify it either if you keep holding this belief in your mind and following the group-think here. Your mind simply cannot ever reach where Christ was by holding this belief that it is not real/of God. It is a self-reinforcing loop.

The abortion laws in the US alone should make one raise tons of alarm bells. It is counting on the silence of the feminine voice that easily gets abused and misused. The easiest targets of people with authoritarian tendencies are to target the feminine and those with existing vulnerabilities. The ongoing dismantling of social programs aimed at creating a fairer society is also yet another way for the very few wealthy “Kings” to control the masses as either their slaves or pawns in their games. You will be gravely mistaken to think these so called leaders care about you in any shape or form besides what continues to suit their “power positions” in this world. It isn't a coincidence that it is almost never the ones who are doing well under such a system to oppose it. The re-election of Donald Trump is a clear sign that there is a wave of moral and spiritual bankruptcy in the US that is now favoring corruption and authoritarianism over righteousness and integrity. And if the people who can fight them through peaceful protest don’t do so, this will be what gets normalized, like frogs getting boiled in water.

No you are stuck in your ego still it is obvious. You guys are misleading people due to your incomplete awakening.

I have, and then realized it was a trick of my ego, and then I had to find the true God with Christ.

That I hope you do not get "stuck here" like most here do.

It's ok, I am just doing "my job", this paradigm is not "the end of the road" like people here think it is. That's all I can say but rest is not up to me.

Because of the way you are saying it, and not knowing there are more teachers above Leo.

It's a start. You are probably where I was ~4 years ago. (Like most of em here rofl). (Incoming Mod army).

Ok but if you are considering harming the body there's something else going on, because you wouldn't have to if your basic survival was taken care of while accessing these higher states of consciousness. In any case I respect your inclinations, but I just want you to notice that you have a relative problem, that there may be a solution to, perhaps. But I also have come across enough individuals in desperate survival situations that I'm not deluded that you would rather not be here anymore as a result. All I'm saying is that there may be things you haven't looked/pursued in relation to your relative situation. And please consider talking to one of us first if you don't have other options with your survival situation.

@Husseinisdoingfine They kind of go hand in hand. It is all fundamentally a rejection of Christ's existence and pretending like it is all made up. But the truth turns out to be that you cannot realize truth or God without Christ. And if one's mind doesn't want this to be true, one will come up with all sorts of "reasonings" as to why I am not real. You can't be a fair critic of Christ without realizing it in yourself, not really. It is sort of like Donald Trump criticizing Justin Trudeau. Trump certainly feels that he is coming from a "higher perspective", and can come up with all sorts of "good reasons", but we all know that he isn't.

Mostly to tell you that there is more awakenings/self realization ahead that nobody here has reached.