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puporing replied to Spiritual Warfare's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes and there're many degrees of this. If you dissolve all of it you become pure light/heaven. And this is also the only state you can experience oneness with the true "Father". -
You should be able to figure out exactly what/why you are suffering and where that is from. Some of it can be improved but others can't because it's from your environment.. I've had to change "career" many times due to not being able to hide it for long as a result. I mean for me it's fundamentally because I cannot find anybody here to relate with anymore.. it's like I am here still in a body, but nobody can "see me" lol. Literally like being in an isolation chamber.
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Depends on what kind of "depression" you have.. so from my perspective there's a kind of depression that will help you awaken, but society will try to dissuade you from it with their "fixes". I'm speaking from experience because I've tried many things about my depression before but it ultimately never went away and is actually for a metaphysical reason with your true self. So anyway if you're depressed you could be closer to Christ consciousness. But unfortunately the mainstream view is to dissociate it or that it's a problem. I'm saying that your higher mind is suffering. So those fixes are actually going to push you away from awaking further or you could say away from the truth.. Aside from that it was sometimes okay for me to connect with a therapist for some relief if I really need to tell someone about something. Just watch out that there are also some ones who try to manipulate you too and I've had that too. Because it's their "livelihood" some will try to keep you around even though they aren't being very helpful.. or worse just a complete actor telling you what you want to hear..
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puporing replied to eTorro's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
There's very few people I can even have a brief conversation with now.. not because I don't want to but most people avoid me after a certain point coz I don't "look or speak like them". -
I don't know enough details but.. does she have any other family or connections besides you? Is there some kind of social assistance she could apply to and qualify for? Are there some fields of work she could possibly enter with the physical/mental limitations..? And how did she end up in this situation? You know our society has no support for children with bad parents if that's why she ended up with all these problems. All they usually do is to tell you to go back to your abusers. A lot of the homeless population is from bad families.. And yeah.. it's a hard call. If they are truly isolated in this world and have literally no other options.. it's possible she could end up homeless. But I think there are probably some ways she could still earn some living over time and maybe some assistance at the same time depending. Moving to a lower cost city also helps. I think you are in the same country I am in..it's becoming more and more of a sh*thole here and harder and harder to get by. Actually the more awake you are the more it looks like a sh*thole.
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Complex PTSD: From Surviving to Thriving by Pete Walker Also depends on how "severe" you think it was.. I could recommend more titles.
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Because it shakes up someone's deeply held worldview and/or preferences, sometimes also seen as "taking away" from straight people's "pool of people", way of life, etc. I'm not defending them but I can understand it. Homophobia seems to have gotten a lot better where I live at least.
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puporing replied to Tudo's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Coz there's no true separation, so you're doing it to yourself basically. It may not be immediately felt that way if you're not that conscious, maybe not until you leave this body for many people.. but it would be felt that way if you are. -
puporing replied to Brandon L's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
There's some truth to it, especially if you were not that conscious (for instance someone with "NPD" for example). Because when you leave the body, you will experience some awakening and maybe a "life review", as far as my understanding goes, which will generally make known to you from a higher consciousness view how you've lived your life and as well how the "others around you" may have felt based on how you lived your life, that you may previously not be conscious about. This is especially if you didn't keep awakening and/or self-reflect back before you left the body. But you can also do lots of psychedelics and still not be entering the phase of being aware of how "other people felt", like most of my trips didn't involve that however I was already starting at a relatively high enough consciousness that since a young age, I can intuit how others have felt around me throughout my life and just generally how they feel about me. Basically because most people are very much disconnected from other people's feelings (not very empathic), and they really think that "separation is real", when they die they get a boost in that department and some revelation towards "oneness". And that can trigger your higher self to then want to come back and "amend things" or "be a better person", if you were quite shitty to the people around you for instance.. I'm not too sure whether you can go back to the same life though I have heard that's a possibility through channeled works but I'm just not certain to confirm it. It could also go "the other way" where maybe you come back to "go after" someone/group of people who hurt you because you haven't done the forgiveness work yet. -
puporing replied to Exystem's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Well consider that I have gone so far away from everyone else (including all spiritual teachers) that I have no one left to teach who hasn't already been "brainwashed" by the others to even be open to me (including being brainwashed to reject Jesus). Almost every "spiritual person" currently hold some paradigm and guru as their one and only spirit guide (that's not Christ consciousness but still in Ego consciousness) and I have no control over that. The thing is if the name "Jesus Christ" itself does not trigger some affinity or love for someone it generally means you're not close to me, I'm not saying that's you but that's like >99% if not all of the people I've come across on this path, they fundamentally reject this person and along with it his teachings. Even most Christians fundamentally reject Jesus when he shows up as the real thing because it's so foreign and their Ego has already predetermined that anyone claiming to be Christ is a fake or mentally insane. So consider that while true anyone can just claim to be so and so, it is also true if the real thing shows up nobody wants to take them seriously. And also even if someone isn't actually that awake but claim to be Jesus, this is still a "heavy burden/responsibility" to take on. It isn't something to take on lightly and comes at a lot of risks such as being attacked and labelled. I have literally nothing to gain by "falsely adopting" his name in terms of living a "human life" and everything to lose because it could and generally will negatively impact other "career or social opportunities". So the only reason I would do that is because it is important concerning "Truth itself" for its own sake. All I mean to say with the reminder about how Jesus left this world is to say you don't really understand what that was like for him until you "merge with this mind", and now a similar thing is happening to me just nobody is aware of it. So where does that lead me? I can only share more with people who show some affinity. The rest have to "graduate on their own time". Because I was not taught to "repeat history" again and get myself in a dangerous situation unnecessarily, which would be the case if I made myself overly public. I already face enough "disabling" kinds of attacks from demonic spirit and people here.. again just nobody knows about it and I don't share it usually. My consciousness itself is attracting negative spirit attacks who really don't want me here. -
puporing replied to Exystem's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Exystem I'm not telling "stories" like you keep suggesting. I literally tell you like the way it is in as simple language as possible. I think you're making it into some story due to not comprehending. Well you're the one still talking to me in an inflammatory way. I don't feel the need to reply further. I'm not trying to get something from you, but I am a messenger so I sometimes reply to people who seem to have an opening. You seem to be really unsure about whether to be open to new things or just looking for people identical to yourself. And also since you keep attacking me and calling me labels I do have to respond as well because you're now going off topic. Well it's not narcissistic if I'm just stating the truth because otherwise it would lead to more confusions to the conversation that you're not the only one potentially following. I wouldn't have to point it out so much if you didn't keep literally saying or implying I don't know what I'm talking about throughout this thread. You don't have to accept it though. I've literally had people who tell me to "drop dead" for pointing out I am more awake or from a higher perspective or have a fundamental disagreement. So you are really not the first to "not react well". The best I can hope for in that situation is to end the conversation. Someone who doesn't resonate doesn't automatically make them fake, that's quite the jump to conclusions. Following your logic I would have to conclude that almost all teachers in this world are "fake" because they don't resonate with me. I don't need to convince you in particular, I am just sharing with people who are already close to me. You clearly cannot comprehend the intelligence behind my choice of using this forum as a proper medium for my purpose. Like I said the gap is so large that what is of higher intelligence will look stupid to you. For your information your original "Jesus Christ" was killed, a similar being "John the Baptist" also killed. You really think that this mind is still wanting to perform miracles for the likes of you who also speak in murderous language? And whom it does perform to is not for some "public show". -
puporing replied to Exystem's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Exystem You're not going to get it until you actually get to this place. It's pretty useless trying to explain it further at this time, you're actually pretty far away from me. It might be many more lifetimes before you reach here and probably lots of suffering as well. It's not "off" I just described it to you the way it is from here, your lack of openness or willingness to consider it is another issue. People who are all about "being happy" in this world are actually quite dissociated and cannot see truth of this world clearly. I think you're still operating under the assumption that the "heaven" I speak of is similar/close enough to "earth", but this isn't so. So if you generally like this place (earth plane), that says nothing about how you'll find it from the view of heaven. It's not strange at all due to the contrast in consciousness. This world is a degradation of your mind in comparison to your original state/Self. There's not really another way for me to put it. The higher state of consciousness you go the more obvious this becomes. And it should also be no surprise to you that your original Self is "outside" the general states of this universe so if you ever reach that there'll be hardly anyone here (who are not there) you can "relate with" anymore. So while I'm there, almost nobody here is, it's like you have a schizo mind. I know I am at the highest stage of awakening, and I know "who's here with me or not with me".It's pointless arguing about this though it's like trying to tell a nobel prize materialist scientist about awakening. FYI it's very common to get trapped at certain stages of awakening, most people in fact get trapped somewhere for many lifetimes it seems. Part of it is it's just not "their time", there's still some burning desire to experience this world (in the dream form) and someone like me isn't gonna be able to just "take that away". Most people when they incarnated here were still on the "original dream script/spell" to "be a human", and less obviously, to "be an ego". So it's like those beings who know they aren't a human/body, and didn't wanna be a human but came primarily as helpers/teachers are going to be extremely rare, due to fundamentally "Beings of Light" (though there's degrees to this as well) will find this place generally repulsive/undesirable. That or they literally get killed off.. That itself makes this challenging due to being in the extreme minority. If you seriously contemplate what I just said above, that there's going to be fundamentally way more "half awake" people (that aren't able to recognize someone like me) here because people like me will find it very hard to be here in the first place, that's how much of a "trap" this universe is. Coz anyone from outside this system who tries to "intervene" will prob not sound "reasonable" to the ones within the system, and will prob get "killed off" (whether literally or metaphorically through denial) quickly. It's like I am able to see you're playing with toys that have barbed wires on them but you can't see the barbed wires or the bleeding. So when I tell you there's barbed wires on your toys that you right now cherish, you're going to get very upset and try to deny me and say I'm lying to you. See how this doesn't really resolve itself if true? That's a more or less simplified description of what's happening. Having said all that, I don't sense that this thread is going somewhere productive anymore. Seems like your main purpose here is to deny what I'm saying. -
puporing replied to Exystem's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Thank you for your encouragement and doing your best to understand. It is partly because of Love (or the lack of here) you could say that this mind is suffering. So counterintuitively there's not much "happiness" in my current state other than I'm glad I've arrived what I consider "the end of the road" and understanding of everything, but this state is not a "happy state". Here you know full well that your/our mind (which was infinite glory, oneness/connectedness, love, goodness) is essentially "broken to pieces" and it's going to be a hell of a job to "get it back" to what it was" before.. So there's heaven on the one side and then there's more or less a "joyless place" (from this perspective) on the other side, and they really don't mix.. otherwise you'd already be where I am and it wouldn't be so hard to awaken to this. I mean yeah the fact that most people are attracted to and want this "horror show" is part of why is going to take forever to return. It is kind of like a halloween world you've built. Thank you I appreciate you trying to help me. The guy you referred seems like a nice guy but he doesn't seem close to me, I'll still check him out though. -
puporing replied to Exystem's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Because it doesn't work usually otherwise, I've tried many times. There isn't going to be much love there like you say. When there's love between people if you haven't noticed it's usually because they have common grounds. And I'm saying in this case the "dog" or whomever does not understand my essential nature, and so generally the result is they will go to people who are similar instead. If there's already someone/some people who understand "my essential nature" I wouldn't be spending so much effort trying to explain it. Most people actually avoid me tbh as they could prob sense something unusual about me and they prefer people who "buy into their delusions" (which, they prob think the same of me you see ).. And if they don't, it's usually not people I wanna be around too much either (eg people with mental disorders or potentially dangerous).. -
puporing replied to Exystem's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Exystem Thank you I appreciate you trying to share your perspective. I have tried very hard. The thing is it's not something I can just "turn off" like you might think I can. Once I reached this current state I can't really "go back" if that makes any sense. And I think I never felt like I could fit in anywhere since growing up despite the "search". I could not find anyone similar to me and that's just to let you know it wasn't something I can just "turn off". I don't have a problem with the "material stuff", it's about people's consciousness here, because I am basically alone here. Like imagine one day you turned into a unicorn that nobody here can understand but not a kind of unicorn people can visually identify. And even arriving here I don't know if I really had much of a choice. I think I was already quite close to it when I incarnated here, so I kept searching teacher after teacher and exhausted them all. I struggled with chronic depression since my late teens and nothing in the end could really help me except reaching this place. I wish it wasn't the case that I became more or less a "loner". Anyway I don't like making it about "me", but I don't have many options. So from my state I'd rather find "like-minded" folks. I mean I already understand most of the "other perspectives". It's like say you have a phd in mathematics, and now you're talking to people from grade school to high school to post secondary about math, okay you might learn some "new perspective", but you already went through those before and you are mostly a teacher when you talk to these people about math, does that make more sense? To "heal or to teach" isn't from a self aggrandizing place, it is because we are all connected that compels me to. Your higher mind is suffering from the lack of consciousness in this world. And well there's only so much I can do.. generally it requires lots of patience. So if I know I am your true/original Self (and if that's what someone is interested in uncovering), and you don't remember it, what else am I to do but to try and tell you about this? No this state somehow is extremely narrow path, but ofc there have been "others" who've reached it, just very uncommon it seems. But most of Jesus' disciples apparently couldn't understand him the first round.. so I don't think I'll have a much better luck either. I'm just trying to point out that while one can't "force an awakening" on others, the same is true that one can't force someone to "go backwards".. So ofc I'm aware if people aren't receptive to me I would adjust accordingly. But there might be a few "unicorns" who have some opening.. -
puporing replied to Exystem's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Exystem I know what I sound like to most people so it's what it is. Nobody's going to understand me until they're actually close, which will be very rare (which I wish it wasn't the case). I don't need to convince you you said you were genuinely asking a question so I responded. That's Leo's perspective that you are now adopting. His perspective is much more appealing than mine to the masses. If you honestly feel like shit in the toilet makes you love this place then so be it, nothing I can do about that. "Being attracted to shit" is prob one of the top reasons most humans aren't even a bit awake. And being easy to agree to does not negate that I found higher awakening. -
Lmao, yes it's a hard one to swallow.. esp if you see their beingness as the same. You can try being "reducetarian" to start. There's an actual heaven that is your true being that's not "here" or same as here, though it still connects to here. Your true being is filled with Light, like a bright sun. That's all good too, those qualities apply to the heaven I'm referring to and increased there, and is a constant state.
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@trenton I'm in a similar boat regarding biological family. Building/finding your "new family" so to speak can take lots of time and patience. I don't do as well if there's literally no one "around"... There are people out there who don't need a lot of attention and just happy to have loose connections too. About "death" well.. if you and your loved ones are at similar levels of consciousness you'll probably end up in similar places again if that helps any (whether it's as spirit or human form or some other form).
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Nothing here. I can't truly have a debate with someone about "being Jesus" until someone actually reach heaven. Meanwhile people can think what they think of me.
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Try putting yourself in a state of openness to guidance, and you could literally try to "call for help". And just throw some "problem" you're having with that, and wait for a day or two see if any "solutions" comes back to you.
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@Something Funny hm.. I was pretty "adhd" too before awakening, just an fyi. Ok, just a suggestion as it helped me so far. It's really how I got through a lot of what you might call "tough times". Spirit (higher mind) gave me better answers than most humans could give (Which ironically as I'm typing this..but I'm hardly human at this point..).
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Are you on the brink of bankruptcy? Are you isolated and have no one to talk to/support? I know money can be a big one that brings you down.. Listen to "spirit" and usually they'll give you something (like an idea) that point you a better direction.
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It can't be forced. So long as someone finds this world attractive (as opposed to painful), they will not reach heaven I think, they are polar opposites. Even someone like me who did find it painful was tough to reach here, the ego dissolution process isn't easy and can feel "gut wrenching" at times. But there was enough Love from heaven that pulled me through. You could say this was the only place I could find my "equal" so it had to be the case I find it.
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@Miguel1 Thank you I appreciate that. Well it won't be true for you anymore coz if you reached where I am (one day) there'd now be 2 instead of 1, lol.
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Sure, I can explain based on what generally people value here: Intimate Relationships Tried that, due to gaps in consciousness I always end up being someone's "free therapist" or punching bag, getting tricked that they might have basic integrity. Cannot find anyone that understands Love. People generally want to "imprison you" or use you as some "thing" to show off, and put you into a box with a "specific role" in mind, look a certain way, talk a certain way, and if you deviate from that all hell gets loose (generally). And those who are already in "relationships" don't generally give a fk about everyone else that they might come across. It's like other people just don't exist anymore. Same is true with "family systems", if you're not part of someone's family you don't exist to them very much nor do they give a fk about you. Why do people even want babies? Do they even consider how painful that process is for the mother? And how it basically enslaves them? Usually no. They just take for granted someone with ovaries should have babies, like some kinda biological incubator. So imagine being boxed into this thing that most people think this is what you're good for and only what you're good for. Families I have no true families I can hardly avoid my biological parents, who are similar to the above, try to box me into something they want of me and most likely transphobic. Work So far I have not had a single job where someone in position of power doesn't try to manipulate, abuse, take advantage of me. If you're a biological woman most people in position of power will never promote you or give you your fair pay for your abilities. They will pay you the lowest of the low because they think you don't know better as a "woman". And when I tried to be self employed, I still run into bad people like certain customers who will trash your stuff on purpose, business "partners" like Airbnb trying to get out of paying you damages, other people that might be in the picture of your business constantly trying to screw you over and steal from you and you have very limited ways to fight back that don't require lots of money. Spirituality Have not met a single person of my equal yet, I am lucky just to not be kicked out of spiritual communities. What that means is basically you have no one to relate to in this world and that's not exactly an optimal situation. Have you found any Light yet? There's much Light to uncover which leads you back to Heaven.