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@RMQualtrough wtf I'm sorry you had to go through that.. sounds really tough. Also I think I'm still tripping on this a bit, I can feel it lol..

@Jodistrict Thanks for sharing that. I was honestly in a very good state when entering into it (calm and neutral, open). Just took too much. Yes I think that lines up with my experience too, I have been having some chest pain since, it's going away now.

Something most people choose to overlook is the cult of some families.

@kamwalker Yes hard to say how our experience with that would compare but yeah, was struggling to stay "here" if that makes sense. Didn't even get much of an insight for all that .

@bambi 1 gram should be fine to try out. It can still be intense though for some people if you're sensitive and not sure what to expect. My first trip on 1 g was still somewhat intense I would say and worked through alot of the residual trauma stuff, but went well. How to take it: I prefer a tea form. (Look up mushroom tea preparation). Only have to wait about 20 min for the come-up.

Accepting where people are developmentally and not needing them to be anywhere else. Accepting major challenges and seeing them as a source of growth, not letting them put you into depression and nihilism. Failing to integrate spirituality into baseline consciousness/life in the finite form. Not pushing yourself hard enough to love every situation.

Nice, glad that it helped you. Yeah he's all about exploring alternatives, and self-empowerment/healing.

LoL you guys keep talking about Teal, I got way more out of someone like Daniel Mackler, coz he goes direct to the source - your childhood. Now his delivery is not fancy or polished like Teal's is, but I don't care about that, his truth telling was so direct and gave me so much healing that I couldn't find elsewhere. All the therapists I've seen have to one extent or another defended the family system (that gave some people their depression and mental disorders). Daniel sided with the child in me/us 100% and he put himself in a very vulnerable position by doing so, as this is still mostly a taboo topic in our society.

Here's a summary. ?

Yeah had the same thoughts. And the "shit I really fked it up this time".

Yes I was thinking about this actually. I honestly don't know as I haven't had prior experience with it. It did feel like my state of consciousness just shot way up to the point my body can't handle it. But there was little "transition" period like I would experience with mushrooms. But what else would it be that could do this? It was about 20-40 min depending if you count the come up/down.

Thanks. No not really haha. I guess my body felt very heavy as it was coming up and felt like it had become quite dense like a lead brick or something.

I don't know, if I do it again it'll be a much smaller dose (less than 5mg), that was some hell and I don't wish it on anyone. The question of whether or not I would've just passed out or died well, at the time it felt like I could stop breathing if I didn't fight to stay conscious, whether or not it was actually shutting my body down I don't know. I didn't get a sitter or anything. And my feet were very cold after the trip.. I can't say much about it yet, but the other thing I felt was as I was coming down from it (ie my awareness coming back), it didn't give me the deep contemplative experience/being in the godhead I had with mushrooms, it just felt "flat", and still restricted my body movements quite a bit, but I can't say how it'll work on a lower dose. Why did I take 15mg? I thought it was a medium dose, that was my carelessness without knowing how sensitive I would be, I should've just taken 5mg to start.

Thanks @Inliytened1 ?.

LOL intense is an understatement. I've had some very intense trips. This one almost killed me for real. Thanks though.

@Raptorsin7 Oh yeah I get it. There were some discussions related to that before if it's what I'm thinking. It's kinda tricky to balance oversight and giving people more autonomy.

Ahahaha ? The only trouble I see with those testimonials is that it's prob a lot of ex-lovers who thought they could get with Teal or something (which is also not great and why she doesn't learn to not make those things part of her work I have no idea).. I mean there's gotta be truth in there too but you know, it gets tained by that at least to some extent, but prob mostly accurate stuff I would think.

Why? I mean I get the "letting go" thing, but there's actually a lot of "co-learning" going on in this forum.

Great stuff thanks for sharing! I'm glad you're seeing the fruits of your labor!

It's not an issue at all, everyone had to go through their first time.

@Vincent S That's a very loving take . It would be wonderful if she discovered these other ways of self-healing too that might allow for more independence from her followers, but sometimes that's just not where someone's at or had the chance to find out.

I don't know why but the "mental health field" seems to attract this. I've known some therapists like this as well, it might seem like they're helping you but in the end it can feel like they're just using you to feed their ego and to get money from you. They do good work sometimes, but when it comes time to let the person go, some have trouble doing so and tend to perpetuate the relationship needlessly. It makes me think alot of these "healer" types are actually trying to heal themselves through their clients. The ones who can help and not be attached to their clients (whether it's emotionally or financially) are somewhat rare.

This 100%.

I also think it would be hard to demand exclusivity for such a kind of arrangement, or it would make it a bit imbalanced. Basically you'd have to develop yourself to a point where jealousy is minimal and also the ability to be okay if things "don't work out" (ie, more chaos so to speak). Maybe you just want a guy who doesn't want marriage and children so that's not quite the same thing as the above. There are plenty of guys also who are okay just being bf/gf that doesn't lead to marriage, maybe older guys are more open to this. And better yet, just enjoy any relationships that come to you as a bonus to your life and not a need. I don't know, it's something that can take time and experience to figure out.

Just start doing it, ask questions, find answers, ask some more. For most people they're okay to just keep things to themselves. But sometimes you find some stuff that is not being talked about, and it makes you want to share it, or not! I think what you're really asking is perhaps how to make this your full time, paying "career". Well, that's gonna require your creativity .