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Most humans aren't capable of love, most are just looking to fill their needs and sense of belonging, with love in disguise (or some very limited version). If humans were capable of love this would be heaven. The system we are setting ourselves up in currently is also one such that love is not the focus and survival is.

The more interesting thing is why someone had to wait 2 years to bring up the topic about finances...

I think you have to "purify" your mind of the conditionings too to a large extent, deconstruction is required (unless of course you were always doing that since coming to existence). But what makes someone want to do the deconstruction? That's another question.. what is the motivation behind seeking truth or seeing things clearly/for what they really are? Maybe because whatever reality appears to be, to some people it just never seems like it answers their burning questions, nor satisfies them, hence the quest. Who's to say you stumbled upon Leo by pure "accident"? What if it was "your will" all along?

Check out Matt Kahn's work, helped me with that.

I don't know. Exhaustion and tiredness are a mystery to me and I'm still investigating, as it seems like a lot of folks here have it. I was listening to one of Matt Kahn's live calls last week and he touched on this topic, to paraphrase: This is a stage of "apathy" in the awakening process, a process of purging, that it is normal for when people who are transitioning from ego dissolution to awakening to experience tiredness/exhaustion, and those "mystery illnesses", latent viral activations. That this is the period of disidentification with the ego to the rebirth of awakening/eternal consciousness. Think of it like you're downloading one of the most important computer software updates, and it's having a hard time handling this upgrade coz its got old hardware. "Apathy" is the sign that you're growing out of the grip of ego which tries to control. These signs and symptoms like exhaustion may be the ego's last ditch effort to control. What you have to do is hold space for the part of you that's ready to die, and allow the unity consciousness to enter. Practice self-care (like taking care of your health and being gentle) and see it from the perspective of what's being reborn, and not what's dying. (I wish I can share that video coz it touches on this directly. Maybe it'll be released publicly one day.) And it could well be something else too.

You can be a mediator that radiate God consciousness. Like certain music or poetry can cause (more) state change into the mystical realm for those ready to receive. And just sharing the truths you've found and meeting one where they're at with sharing. Being a "healer" is another way.

Sending you love. The book suggestion by @Eternal Unity seems appropriate (I haven't read that one yet but others by the same author). You're indeed returning home. It may be that you feel this iteration is coming to an end abruptly...or some unfinished business... Maybe something you could set an intention for going forward. ?

All that is supposed to help you awaken . And learn what love is.

Really depends....was this a long term situation where you were abused? Was it a situation where you were blind to things and then came to realize later on? Well ultimately it depends on the effects on you. Sometimes the abuse was so prolonged and ingrained, that the fundamental way they behave towards you will not ever change. Other times it was a matter of lack of maturity and they have grown beyond it. So I guess it's about recognizing if actual growth has happened and how you feel about it in relation to the past. If someone was really sorry they would not push you to still want them in their life, they will respect your decision and comfort. Sometimes the hurt is simply too great and the gap in your development too great, and all you can do is love them from afar.

Yeah if you really try you can... Well maybe trying isn't the right word. I won't go into too much details but you can imagine being someone else and live their experience to some extent. Or animals, or objects. I have less experience with the ladder ones. The thing that allows for it is to develop a connection with it, become deeply curious about it to the point you want to know what it's like to be them/it.

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@Tyler Robinson Great share, thank you! What a wise soul .

What if love is the higher intelligence, and awakening leads you closer to it? Result would be two fold around "survival" imo... More sharing of resources while you're here; and then whatever happens, rest in knowing that this is all imaginary, you're eternal, and will "return home" to yourself.

@Oeaohoo I was enthralled by the fact that @Razard86 was able to have an awakening experience sober. Personally interested in dissolving it as much as I can. But I accept where others are at and where you currently are at. I am not interested in getting into a debate, maybe one day you'd recognize that you're attacking "yourself", and that for some reason, despite your resistance, "you" wanted me to tell you this.

@Oeaohoo You're just engaging in personal attacks, rather than giving feedback. Two different things. Personal attacks goes nowhere and is there to satisfy your ego.

The thing that you can do is to start doing it yourself, rather than expecting some other to do it.

Stop the nonsense.

What if all the emotions and feelings you have are part of what make your dream feel utterly real? The integration is that you're not just this finite being. It's the most empowering thing for me in terms of the "identity" aspect. Maybe that needs to be more fully realized so it's in your baseline awareness. Yes people will keep projecting on you that you're just this or that. But now you know, that it's falsehood/partial. And then the realization everybody/everything is you, and that they have the same potential of realizing their true identity. And again they just don't know and acting from a place of ignorance because they were made that way and that's what the dream is based around. We can't really blame them if they don't want to break the game yet. You can even learn to be in awe of the intelligence it takes for God to fool itself, almost completely . It's like you didn't know what intelligence was meant before that. But then of course because of its own inherent intelligence, breaks are happening. It sounds like most of the problems you're having are around constructing a life that you love for this iteration. That'll take some work but there is a possibility there. Because now your higher self is really aware of the gap between how you're living this character vs how it wants to live, expressing itself as fully as possible through you.

Forum/any space can only be as conscious as the people are in it..

Pages from his book "Love, Freedom, Aloneness - the Koan of Relationships":

Not surprising.. it's just degrees of self-deception/bias what Google does or some other company. Survival is a bitch. I've been dealing with Airbnb and they don't seem very ethical either (compared to how they present themselves) and give me the mafia vibes right now. If you have a problem that's tied to money even while admitting it was their mistake, they will drag their feet and gaslight you in the hope you'll give up. We can't know some of the inner workings of these systems until something gets released or personally dealt with.

@Thought Art he's a finite being too like all of us as well. Just try to have a bit of compassion which I see you are struggling to do. Have you considered that you can trap yourself too wearing the "guru hat"? And now that's all you can be. And when you want to express yourself more fully/authentically people react with the lens of you being their guru? If you just drop that idea for a minute you will be able to find some compassion as though he's no different from you and the struggles you have gone through/and will face on this journey. But just some words, who knows if I'm talking shit or not . Love you guys.

Most resources you have to filter for yourself what's helpful/true information and what is self-biased information. Don't underestimate your own intelligence/intuitions and put it as lesser. And then direct experience and being hyper-aware of how people are responding is really what'll help you learn.