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Yeah I've seen those.. maybe I should issue a warning when I share his stuff. I don't know enough. It's unfortunate if it were true, coz I sense he has imminent access to the divine. He could be self decepted about some things and survival stuff can easily cloud one's judgement. I don't really recommend going there long term. And hope that people who do are aware of cult dynamics. It's like any teaching you gotta tease out the truthiness from the "untruth and noise" such as some of the word choices he use.

You had to be/experience unconsciousness to move towards more consciousness.

Didn't expect to see Nujabes here, I used to listen to his stuff all the time! Still love it.

(Not sure if this is the right category to put this). So I've been experiencing a lot of shifts in awareness and how I perceive reality in my baseline consciousness lately and I am wondering if "anyone" feels this way or has found some healthy ways to transition through this. Do you struggle with relating with "others" post-awakening knowing they're just you, but they mostly don't recognize it as such? Do you have to trick yourself to believe that the other exists in order to have interaction? Do you have to trick yourself into thinking like a human again to function and/or have "human goals"? It's been really sticking with me these days that nothing exists the way most people view it, except as "costume" or "narratives" and constructions, and anytime I interact with someone I'm just talking to myself but I sort of have to act like I am not... It's like being the only sober person at a drunk party. Eating food I feel like I am ultimately eating "nothing" but is necessary to keep this body alive/healthy. I go to a swimming pool or walk on a street full of people and it dawns on me they're all me. And I feel completely insane because of how isolated I am in this awareness, and how almost nobody would understand me if I pointed this out. Sometimes it can feel "good" too especially in nature and with animals, classical music, I feel more at peace being one with them (which is a bias..). So it's a rollercoaster kind of ride. I seem to feel at the most peace being alone or with someone that has an opening/accepts my understanding of reality at this point and not totally enraptured in the dream. Not sure where this post is going..it's just been bottling up and need to be said.. (maybe this alone helps to cope/transition). I'm sorting out some thoughts on it. It's like yea.. I know this is what's gonna happen when you go deep.. but maybe some struggles with the change is also normal to have.. It's almost like I have to embrace "acting", well maybe that's the answer to this lawl. Perhaps some of you are struggling with the same.. And if you are.. I want to say, I see your struggles and know how hard they can be. Even though the separation between us is imaginary, I am here, and see your struggle with this journey. Thank you for reading. Sharing already seem to make it better.

This is my take on poly: You can't force any aspects of it (meaning, create opportunities but let the others decide on participation, not only whether they want that, but how it fleshes out, and can take a lot of communication). Be willing to let go of it and/or console if you sense someone is going to/is getting hurt. By trio, if you mean the others can't date other people if they wanted then it's not truly balanced/ethical, only if it happened voluntarily and changes to the structure are respected. This includes your own evolution which may change your idea of what you want. More likely to work if all are acting from a place of selflessness (which you have to do both yourself and find others similar). More likely to work if everyone involved are more independent leaning and not acting from a place of neediness. And this independence/sovereignty is respected. More likely to work with SD Tier 2 folks. Might work if you got an abundance of unconditional love and not attached to outcome or what it gives you. Basically, don't get too attached to the idea and embrace what is because humanity is not that developed (and probably yourself too), that's not to say it can't ever happen or a less ideal form of it. Experiment and find out. A poly structure actually demands you to grow fast (and towards more independence) if you really want to maintain this way of relating. The real kicker is the more you grow (while thinking about relationship structures) the less you need anything or relationships or things to be a certain way so we're coming back full circle .

LOL. Maybe coz God is also a hopeless romantic.

Haha, it's certainly not the "highest" one can reach if one cannot even empathize with the relative struggles of finite beings and different stages of development.

Yeah the actual music to put it to words it would be around things like, divinity, profundity, beauty, infinity, light and darkness, love, humor, gracefulness, intelligence, paradox, consciousness. That last one is a bit hard to define but you know it when you see it.

It's not the genre I'm talking about. "Classical music" is very diverse. So within "EDM" of course you could have ones more reflective of God, same with rock or whatever genre. A good artist will usually appreciate many different genres of art as well. I make a special case for Chopin (and some others) because he has reached what I consider "the spiritual heights" from one instrument. Actually I think he was intentionally or unintentionally discovering God with his work.

Some people are really good actors and not using their "powers" for more selflessness... I've experienced similar thing with a therapist once, it went on almost a year before I realized what was happening (which was also partially due to my own shortcomings and need for healing at the time). That's not to say it was not valuable for me, it still was. And on the flip side people can learn/grow a great deal when they do see through a major deception.

Amen to that. Life can get really hard when just figuring out survival.

I think there's both "subjectivity" and "objectivity". The objective is roughly based on your level of consciousness/development, the subjective dictates the more specific art you're drawn to as it resonates with you. Chopin is also a great example of music reflecting the nature of reality/God.

Haha . Maybe you know, coz you're Leo.

Idk where life's gonna take me... it's always evolving. It's possible I'll be more "out there" one day, maybe to "transmit"/share something . I can appreciate the "prodding".

Yea I think I know.. it's not about "good or bad", just, different way of being, like if your default is a quiet mind, and you've transcended the need for language as the main way of communication, among other things like need for stimulation, buying into a collective story, etc, then yeah it's going to require "acting" on your part to be part of a group dynamic.

Sure but I'm not gonna be actively seeking it out at this point, challenges yes, but what's the point of being in toxic environments your whole life? I've had enough of that, maybe your cup's not filled yet . "Being" and "doing" are of the same coin.

It definitely helps that the language used by the leaders are progressive and protective of minorities and women. But the collective consciousness is not all at that level and there's a wide range.

Yeah people do try to get you "back in line" unfortunately.. they really want to be validated that the way they're living is the "best way". A few of the "friendships" I briefly had ended that way because I didn't buy into the "achiever mindset". One of the biggest differences I'm sure you could relate is I don't take "human goals" so seriously like most do a "life and death" kind of a deal (but more play and being in the moment and responding to what arises).

Thank you for the encouragement, @Sincerity. Definitely a choice, to go back to the dream or stay this way , or somewhere in between works too.

Yeah I get that perspective. For me I just haven't gravitated towards any sort of fiction/shows for some time (the last two years at least..), I have been absorbed in spirituality quite totally, any books I read or teachings I have been absorbed in are towards more and more truth. Even work wise I had to step out of working for others partially because I could not get wrapped up in the "fiction", especially since most places do not care for creating a good "story". Even if I was to be absorbed in some story it would be related to truth and love, high consciousness, which currently is lacking in our environment.. the story of mankind right now for the most part is one of enslavement/control of one another. Yes there are sprinkles of love and inspiration, conditional kinds of love spread out, but really it's so not even close to the potential. I still experience racism and sexism on a regular basis for instance. Maybe that helps to understand why I chose to get "out of the story" .

Everything is blurred together: trauma, cravings, spiritual growth. Trauma healing can be a lifelong undertaking because your body doesn't catch up as quick as your mind can process, and we tend to want to "get over it" quickly. I recommend approaching both in the relative and absolute. Both will reduce your sense of neediness/strong cravings that could lead to depressive thinking. In the relative you could find some relief through therapy potentially and sort out the stuff from the past that might be holding you back from being your best self. And pursue socializing . Better if you can find women who are trauma informed (or can show empathy for this) so as to reduce the chance of re-traumatizing yourself. In the absolute is to realize your true nature, that which is whole and complete and contains all, and that you are everything, that completeness will fulfill you spirituality. Also the recognition that you contain both masculine and feminine polarities will help there too. You can still enjoy socializing but basking in your own being takes away such a sense of neediness and whatever else comes to your life is seen as a bonus. (Literally you can get to a point where you almost experience the same joy through seeing another couple together as if you're them in the experience. )

I'm only halfway through S1, it's like Actualized.org in theatre.

That’s good : ), makes it possible to have a talk about it…

@Devin Thank you I appreciate your input. Been pretty isolated from most of society now and only connecting loosely with most people. And you're right even if I interact with someone, it's not from the ego anymore but from a metaphysical perspective (almost always these days there's that awareness..if not "after the fact"). Acting is not as required around non-human stuff or when you're not directly talking to someone, and you're free to zoom in on any aspects of consciousness. Acting is required around most people as you lose the ego and realize God, especially if you don't just "forget" it , so the alternative is to trick yourself temporarily. Otherwise you have to pretend that there's separation (even with another awakened being out of respect of their sovereignty and creating a path for connection), and the life stories/worldviews people tell you/want you to adopt with them etc, basically how someone shows up/decide to live their life and how they interact with another is all influenced by these. There's of course degrees.. some you act less than others around, some are more comfortable with you being a "weirdo" than others. It is a loving gesture to act at least to some extent - accepting & meeting someone where they're at and allowing their own evolution to unfold the way it naturally occurs as much as you can is showing love (and at times showing the truth is love also). And in that way, the "acting" transforms into the real, because the love (through the togetherness however brief the interaction) is real and you're aligning with the love. The thing is just to limit interactions to what you can handle (as in not make you feel like living in falsehood). The challenge is with close and long-term relations, where many will try to make you like themselves, adopt their beliefs and worldviews, few can respect that there may exist people who think very differently from their own worldviews.. many will start to demonize you for not adopting their perspectives. Well...that can be a problem even without any awakening .People are usually not so good at respecting another's sovereignty...least that's been my experience. On the flip side, the ones who do I am that much more drawn towards..

@Molaric Anger is a sign you're probably in a toxic environment, that your mind thinks it can deal with/handle and rationalize away, but your body cannot and it's telling you that. It's a sign that you should start questioning the kind of environment you're in and whether that's helping you or doing the opposite, and move towards one that does not rob you of your highest values/gifts.