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To varying degrees yeah, I guess just the simple fact you have basic survival to think about is forced on you. And all other factors like your health, genetics, upbringing, location, etc are not exactly in your control. So it's a counterintuitive thing where you need to meet a certain amount of basic needs to have room for increased virtuosity/aligning with truth. But often when things start to get "comfortable" people can continue ballooning their "needs" and not examining the ways in which they're going about it or how it's affecting others. So I would say the burden is in fact more on those who have basic needs met (how you define that is another story), and those who have more power to influence the environment. ? But people with more power (whether it's earned or birthed or both) are often very good at deflecting any such responsibility as they continue to enjoy the power differential. And hence the system change needed to redistribute power tends to get "locked" in place.

Well yeah I was illustrating a point that basically the group dynamic can force your hand when it comes to acting in accordance with the highest values and truths. If survival in the environment means going against the truth. But I think those don't really count within double standards/hypocrisy as it was forced on you.

Yes you're right it requires both individual awareness and the system change. A very "woke" person probably will starve to death in a stage red place, assuming that we still care about survival. But I guess the work is more focused on what individuals are doing, which will influence the collective.

@Judy2 well said. I think it's a basic courtesy/respect to ask for permission first.

LOL. it's prob easy to tell if you're not doing low/micro dosing..

Well... I don't think it's untrue that we are in a dream where few people know who they are, and hence acting from ego and seperation, which are the things @Holykael is trying to express - challenges in the relative. We should acknowledge these challenges while knowing it's dream world. And what's stopping us from dreaming what God/we want? In fact that's all that has been happening. Don't downplay your will and your ability to create, that's what you are given. Why else would anyone bother to share "truths" on this forum? Is that not your will being manifested because you want more truth not less? The dream could be quite different if people realized who they were and how we are "related" to each other. The challenge for us is to accept it for now and not abandon ourselves and live the best life in this iteration. But God waking up to itself is inevitable, it's already happening.

God creates itself, therefore you, the finite you, are also part of that creation. And now as if for the first time God is able to create and be a witness consciously through you. There's much joy that God is waking up in you, is able to see itself and grasp itself, through a finite form/its own creation. That itself is a miracle if you think about it. Whereas before, it was just this potential. Now it's manifest. And not only manifest, but it can also know itself through the manifestation. Perhaps this is the evolution it's undergoing. The joy of the ladder is not lost on God!

Maybe this won't help but the truth is "this person" is never truly gone, and you'll always be with them coz you are them ...

Yeah you're out of luck except maybe this forum. ???

LOL. Coz we don't all got that kind of connections.

It's hard to find people who have "stepped out" of the herd.. but you might get lucky still. I think the "nerd crowd" and "artists types" has more chance of those or more tolerance for it.

Why would it not be?

Find some farmers Well.... certain kinds coz it can go either way.

That's it. Just takes some period of adjustment. You'll find a way to accept it eventually, because the truth is ultimately liberating. Remember the void is also what is birthing all of what's here. It's our attachment to what's here (and ego's desire to control and maintain things as they are, ie resisting change) and sense of "loss" that makes it seem hard.

Most humans aren't capable of love, most are just looking to fill their needs and sense of belonging, with love in disguise (or some very limited version). If humans were capable of love this would be heaven. The system we are setting ourselves up in currently is also one such that love is not the focus and survival is.

The more interesting thing is why someone had to wait 2 years to bring up the topic about finances...

I think you have to "purify" your mind of the conditionings too to a large extent, deconstruction is required (unless of course you were always doing that since coming to existence). But what makes someone want to do the deconstruction? That's another question.. what is the motivation behind seeking truth or seeing things clearly/for what they really are? Maybe because whatever reality appears to be, to some people it just never seems like it answers their burning questions, nor satisfies them, hence the quest. Who's to say you stumbled upon Leo by pure "accident"? What if it was "your will" all along?

Check out Matt Kahn's work, helped me with that.

I don't know. Exhaustion and tiredness are a mystery to me and I'm still investigating, as it seems like a lot of folks here have it. I was listening to one of Matt Kahn's live calls last week and he touched on this topic, to paraphrase: This is a stage of "apathy" in the awakening process, a process of purging, that it is normal for when people who are transitioning from ego dissolution to awakening to experience tiredness/exhaustion, and those "mystery illnesses", latent viral activations. That this is the period of disidentification with the ego to the rebirth of awakening/eternal consciousness. Think of it like you're downloading one of the most important computer software updates, and it's having a hard time handling this upgrade coz its got old hardware. "Apathy" is the sign that you're growing out of the grip of ego which tries to control. These signs and symptoms like exhaustion may be the ego's last ditch effort to control. What you have to do is hold space for the part of you that's ready to die, and allow the unity consciousness to enter. Practice self-care (like taking care of your health and being gentle) and see it from the perspective of what's being reborn, and not what's dying. (I wish I can share that video coz it touches on this directly. Maybe it'll be released publicly one day.) And it could well be something else too.

You can be a mediator that radiate God consciousness. Like certain music or poetry can cause (more) state change into the mystical realm for those ready to receive. And just sharing the truths you've found and meeting one where they're at with sharing. Being a "healer" is another way.

Sending you love. The book suggestion by @Eternal Unity seems appropriate (I haven't read that one yet but others by the same author). You're indeed returning home. It may be that you feel this iteration is coming to an end abruptly...or some unfinished business... Maybe something you could set an intention for going forward. ?

All that is supposed to help you awaken . And learn what love is.

Really depends....was this a long term situation where you were abused? Was it a situation where you were blind to things and then came to realize later on? Well ultimately it depends on the effects on you. Sometimes the abuse was so prolonged and ingrained, that the fundamental way they behave towards you will not ever change. Other times it was a matter of lack of maturity and they have grown beyond it. So I guess it's about recognizing if actual growth has happened and how you feel about it in relation to the past. If someone was really sorry they would not push you to still want them in their life, they will respect your decision and comfort. Sometimes the hurt is simply too great and the gap in your development too great, and all you can do is love them from afar.

Yeah if you really try you can... Well maybe trying isn't the right word. I won't go into too much details but you can imagine being someone else and live their experience to some extent. Or animals, or objects. I have less experience with the ladder ones. The thing that allows for it is to develop a connection with it, become deeply curious about it to the point you want to know what it's like to be them/it.