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Nice try but that's not exactly how this thing works. You have a mind to awaken.

Maybe not for you, but for me what would be better is if more people actually awakened (further), rather than keep on being stuck in this dream. But I understand I am massively "outnumbered".

I don't know.. don't get me wrong I used to be into weird creatures and stuff like hummingbirds too.. but I can't exactly "communicate" with them, same with humans these days...

@Shane Hanlon Interesting.. I experience the opposite, there's not much emphasis on "transcending" from my view.. most people are kind of stuck at where their average peers are at and is very hard to get them out of it.. Your mind is literally afraid of "transcending", it cares much more about "fitting in". For example I still have not found any spiritual circles that is LGBT friendly, it's all so heteronormative.

@trenton It sounds to me like you are already doing "your purpose" where you can. It's not absolutely necessary to turn that into a career if there's not a good fit for that. I would argue that the things that you are listing are generally not things that will earn you a steady income in this world (at the highest level). I am a healer but I have no desire to be a "professional therapist" the way this world is running it for example. I'm not saying you can't be though.. In terms of your own struggles.. if you ever want to reach out, feel free to, I have gone through some similar things with my family and may be of assistance in getting out of that particular funk. I consider myself "orphaned" some time ago.

@Schizophonia We are not getting anywhere coz we are talking to each other from pretty different states. Even if some one were to pay me lots of money I am not just going to "take anyone". I have actually turned down people who offered to pay me. Money is not my goal with this particular work, especially when people who truly need my help (could also be in some other fashion not strictly as a spiritual teacher) are usually poor. If I was truly struggling with survival like about to put on the street I would probably just say so. As to Airbnb, it is quite a bit of work for what you get paid for, maybe not like a McD's worker I guess, in my case anyway. I also do some side jobs and back in school atm. The thing is that, if someone more well off were interested to pay me for my time or whatever, and they're close to my state, it would be more like a "donation" anyway.

That's an interesting viewpoint, I don't think teachers who take money would be an exception to that though. I personally drift away when teachers keep enforcing the payment issue, it implies that I am not their equal.

I would advise finding paid work that is still "of this world" that aligns well with your spiritual pursuits. Short of that, you could also try creative ways to reduce expenses, like living minimally. Problem with tying your income with being a spiritual teacher is that it tends to corrupt it, because you'll be chasing clicks or something that can be of monetary value from your followers one way or another. I mean if you think about it, if everyone here suddenly became a "spiritual teacher" and tried to make money off of it, you will quickly run out of people. And personally, I just don't really agree with exchanging of money with spiritual teaching.. coz where I'm at.. if someone were interested in reaching my state, they'd be an equal soon enough. Not to mention that almost nobody even wants to reach this state lol .

The argument is flawed because almost nobody here would want to work for McDonald's for example or consider that a "success" esp if it barely pays your bills. Almost all of these so called "successful" people are doing it by exploiting the people who do the actual work on the ground. If you're conscious enough you'd actually rather be semi-homeless than working for one of these so-called successful companies/bosses if you got no other good options. Like I'd rather die than slaving away my life at one of those jobs just to "barely make it", knowing the injustices behind it, what's even the point? Like I know you're talking about being the beneficiary of one of those successful companies, but it's not really a success overall if you gave a damn about other people.

I advise shifting your focus on your body appearance to your being. Though I understand that the body still has a function in this world. And I can assure you that you can be perfectly attractive and/or respectable if you went bald one day. People who turn away from you just because you are bald I mean.. really, ask yourself, is that really what you want to associate with? There's much to uncover for you there that you haven't yet found based on this question. I hope that you would consider this as a gift to you rather than a criticism.

Not to downplay your situation but you're already doing better than me.. I've accepted the cost of what I really am in exchange for social isolation (involuntary). There's basically nobody who I can be "me" around and that's not really a point for me for a true relationship/friendship built on who I am not. So there's a cost to this work if you took it seriously is what I'm trying to say. I am literally in like an "isolation chamber" effectively, since the past 1-2 years as a result of this work lol. But that's still like nothing compared to what the first Christ had to go through after his death I imagine. He had about a 2 century worth of "isolation chamber" as far as I am aware.

yes no one denies there are such cases, however for every such case there are also many cases of people working their butt off and barely paying their bills and risking becoming evicted, as well as suicides or MAIDs (medical assistance in dying) that are not due to chronic, severe, untreatable illness.

Yes and no depends.. I say that because sometimes just based on your appearance (like ethnic or gender) you could lose out on better paying jobs. Some guy pouring beer at a nice bar can make quite a bit of money if he was able to get and keep that job, that's a pretty nice "bootstrapping" kind of job to save some money but def not everyone can get, they tend to be nice looking sociable people.. but again you can always try. You should try to find nice people if you can... If you are lucky to find any they can make a big difference in your work life potentially. If you find the right connection or mentor or partnership(s), that can change your life. But there's nothing guaranteeing this. I'd say raising your state of consciousness can help with this quite a bit too since like would attract like. A nice person who would be in a position to mentor will not just take anyone too.

I'm not talking about the bible though.. I didn't read the bible nor very familiar with it.. I read ACIM. And yeah I know the "problem".. trust me Christians have tried to tell me I can't be "that guy" because I was promoting a different text.. so I get nowhere with Christians sadly. And then non-Christians I face problems like "you're a made up thing". This is really what happens if you ever reach this state lol. Everyone will come up with a "seemingly reasonable sounding" thing to brush you aside. I mean I don't know to laugh or cry at the situation sometimes.

Depends on what resonates with you I guess, sometimes it's things like talk therapy.. just being heard and understood. You could also try calling distress line if it's really bothering you.

Something I will add is that.. I am not saying people need to take his teachings word for word, like Christians would tend to do, but moreso the spirit of it which always boils down to more love. I don't follow everything word for word but still reached here. If you saw how I dressed or was like day to day, "being Jesus" would prob be the last thing on your mind... the stuff in pop culture is really outdated from the past. And as well, this mind had to evolve with "time". I enjoy things like playing loud metal/punk music while driving.. that's prob not something people generally would associate with him.. yet here I am.

Hello, there's not too much details (that perhaps you didn't want to get into) there about what could be causing the stress. You might not get very good answers as a result. If it's sort of private, I would suggest finding someone you can trust to talk about it with.

@Thought Art That's a healthy approach, and that's where I started as well until I found Jesus I guess. I bear his name out of love (as opposed to worship) and that's what this level of love makes me do. You could say he was the only being that really cared about me and we had a lot in common as well.. And as well to let people know that he has "returned in me" as human once again. Thank you for trying to be respectful.

@Thought Art those are good descriptors. I am not trying to say it's something belonging to a religion, myself weren't even religious to begin with.. it was really because of his more recent text that resonated with me that I became this same self. It's the same way that Leo resonated with you, you didn't go to his channel because of some "religion". In my case that was a "byproduct". I understand that the possibility exist that there are "unkonwn sages", because it's possible I'll die without many people knowing or even recognizing me this time around as I do not plan to be as public.. (depending on how things go that is). On the other hand, if you reached this state you will also try to make yourself known so it's a balance..

It includes those things, you could say dialed to the maximum you can dial.

In that case if you were the "first Christ" then you would've done almost exactly what "Jesus" did in his first incarnation. And got killed for it as well to make himself known as a more awakened being (doing miracles.. resurrections..debating with other teachers, etc).

Ok fair, I can actually see that you are somewhat close, fyi. It was not an accident that you encountered him.. I should let you know as well there are a lot of divinity in this state as well. Despite all the rejections I go through, no recognition, I still prefer this state than all the other ones I've gone through. Just as an FYI to ya.

You haven't become him yet..if you did you would not be saying this...but I'm glad you encountered him at least.

I encountered "him" as a pure mind and light on mushrooms at first, there was no imagery of any kind, but you know it's the same being that was here and that channeled the Acim text, it made sure to let me know. And well it basically taught me first through my mushroom awakenings. He/it accepted me as a disciple and equal and transferred everything about his being to me over the course of about a year. It's as "scientific" as you can get. I think now that I'm here, I understand why you guys aren't having this experience like I had. This mind will not just teach anyone.. you have to be already quite close..and also truly accept him/love him as well.. because that's the only way really you can reach the same state.

He was not an Ego, but you guys don't understand the ego enough to recognize this, it's not simply "body form". It's a whole mind you have made out of the original mind you had. I mean what's the point in saying this name is a construction when every spiritual teacher has a name. Are we just going to drop our names now and call each other letters or something? And for your information I do have another name for this world... And I'm not even sure if you are saying just the name is a construction or the state he reached is also a construction, the way people could read that could mean both. I keep telling you that I am pointing to a State by pointing to this name. That this State has already been discovered in the past. Leo is basically (indirectly) telling me my time here is over. But it was my job to tell you that you guys have not found the truth yet (by reaching a higher state I found). And so whenever I say this I will probably get kicked out of the community. I will leave Leo with this, you are not being an honest researcher by completely avoiding me and having an honest conversation with me. It's the easiest thing to do to either kick the person out or deny their claims. There's not a proper scientific approach, because you are basing your views of him on his followers and not the person right here. Your approach so far is not different than what you accuse of "scientists" are doing.. (not doing enough research because something doesn't suit your paradigm). If you're going to write Jesus Christ is a construction you should also write Leo Gura is a construction in the same paragraph to be fair. And maybe include a bunch of other teachers you talk about as well in that statement. But it still doesn't mean we're in the same metaphysical state. (Life would be way easier for me if we were).