rachMiel

From what I've read, tulpas can develop "on their own" independently from their creator. (Hey, sounds like hoomans!) My concern is creating a tulpa that metamorphosed into a negative presence for me and others. You want your imaginary friends to be friendly, right?

The original posting said 'the terrifying beauty of infinity'!

https://brunelleschi.imss.fi.it/galileopalazzostrozzi/multimedia/TheHarmonyOfTheSpheres.html

Beware: Take Krishnamurti to heart and it'll change yer life!

@BlueOak Krishnamurti said tons about the danger of being dependent on authority, external and internal. Chapter 1 dives right in: https://ia800405.us.archive.org/2/items/FreedomFromTheKnownJ.Krishnamurti/Freedom From The Known - J. Krishnamurti.pdf

@effortlesslumen You may be able to find the BBC tv production of Lathe, it's great fun.

"Good from far but far from good." I like it! Why "Thanks God"? Do you find messing around with Kundalini potentially dangerous? And how is your Kundalini Kriya practice similar to tulpamancy?

Sounds like sage advice, thanks. That's one of the reasons I started the thread, to get a sense of the danger from the pov of a practitioner.

Stories all the way up, and all the way down. (Is seeing that a story?)

Thanks, looks good! I'm a big fan of movies about cults, favorites include: The Seventh Victim Split Image Apostle The Endless Midsommar Warning: Apostle and Midsommar are both quite disturbing.

Trust is the raft, truth is the 'other side.' At some point, perhaps, trust becomes moot, doesn't matter anymore?

What's wrong with hedonism is, ultimately, what's wrong with any 'ism,' it tries to reduce the mystery (and mess!) that is the world to a tidy formula, and living by formula, any formula, is not living freely.

But what amazing intense heightened time they had on the way. ;-)

I like that: the lure of the self. Like a siren beckoning us to the shore. And, though it's (arguably) a kind of mirage, it *feels* realer than anything else!

For the mix: Reality is the intertwining between subjective mind (what's in here) and objective stuff (what's out there). It is not a pure hallucination or creation of the mind, neither is it a pure gestalt of material stuff. It's a collaborative effort.

Good question. I am neither a semiotician nor a linguist, so I'll resist winging it and probably getting it wrong! Ask GPT or Bard: What is the link between the map and the territory? How does a map symbol get attached to something in the territory?

@HMD Bravo! (Who gets to decide what's 'better'?)

@LastThursday I mean symbols in the general sense, things that represent other things. "And how is a representation related to the territory?" How is the map of a square kilometer of the Swiss Alps related to the actual 'living, breathing' territory of that square kilometer?

"One must imagine Sisyphus happy." ?

@HMD Kudos for seeing the challenge of dealing with the wasteland in such a positive light! If Earth is to survive intact, views like yours are called for.

Rituals that are practiced by Native Americans work with 'sacred time' in which past, present, and future co-exist. Things that have been, are, and will be all exist together at the same (non-)time.

Perhaps the map is any symbolic representation of actual reality (territory)? Any set of symbols or glyphs that denote something other than themselves?