Matt23

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I've been hearing about these detox protocols for heavy metals, plastics, and other toxicants, but I have no knowledge about how to do them. Any good resources, tips, protocols, suggestions, advice?

Maybe you might initially need desires to actually do the work and find out the truth.... Then, down the road, when you've done lots of spiritual growth, you might be in a better position to then question the desire for truth as it may impede progress at later stages.... Like the Buddha said (I think): "My teachings are a raft to get you across the river. Don't abandon the raft before crossing the river, as you'll never even get to the other side. Abandon the raft after crossing to the other side." (paraphrasing). Dunno though... Trust your heart's desires and love.

K, so next question (I may create a separate post for this), high quality books/resources/people to investigate and even tests and such that I can do in order to start to delve into this whole detox thing. I'm also struggling with insomnia, so I'm starting to be a bit more serious about this. Cheers.

One thing I've been picking up lately from Willoughby Britton, Dan Ingram, and others, is that mindfulness and different types of meditation can, contrary to the whole "Minfuldness revolution" for mental health, produce anxiety and a variety of different unwanted effects. There's a book I heard being recommended by both of those peopel called "Trauma-Sensitive Mindfulness: Practices for Safe Healing" by David A. Treleaven which I think goes into this topic. ...So, just in case you want to do mindfulness or something for anxiety, it might help (I don't doubt some people have benefits from meditation and their mental/emotional issues), but it could also exacerbate the issues as well.

Hmmmm.... no. haha. Alright there "Guna". O Fo sho. I like how he characterizes Leo's 30 day Meo retreat: "A cautionary tale." haha. yaaaaa.. I mean, I don't think he meant that how I just portrayed it, but still, haha, I think a 30-day Meo retreat is worth a word of caution.

I kinda like it Seems soothing. Compassionate. Sometimes people need hugs and cuddles. Really helps.

I haven't followed or listened to much of Richard's work, and I have a view of him as being quite a closed-minded rationlist. But the degree of openmindedness he displayed in this interview with Alex Fridman kinda surprised me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f-JlzBuUUU Panpsychism stuff @ 53:53

Hey So I'm realizing that warm-heartedness is super important for me, and helping people feel this and feel safe and comfortable (the image of Gandalf brings tears to my eyes). This is who i want to be, and what I'd like people feel around the world to create a world where we all feel safe and comfortable and good with each other. I also am interested and feel the love for a vision of creating some sort of community or facility. The idea of having a place where people can heal, recover from mental health issues comes to mind and it feels like a decently meaningful thing to do (I've struggled with mental and emotional health for years now). But also the ideas of altered states of consciousness, psychotechnologies, and enlightenment get me excited and bring a smile to my face as well (even though I've never had a non-dual experience). Warm-hearted feeling = helping people with mental health in a community/center-type setting and creating warmth in them and "ok-ness" Excited/energetic feeling = enlightenment, experimenting with altered state, psychotechnologies and the like. Research. Exploration. Go out into the unknown. I'm wondering, does anyone know of resources or people out there who've used, or still use, non-duality in a mental health or therapeutic fasion? also, any other things that pop into your head about this = throw it in! Cheers May the Force be with you ...Fuck those kind, wise-man archetypes get me err time.

I regret and feel bad about using the word "savage" in the last post. I meant it more in a sense of the feeling I was describing. But I feel bad about that. Like they aren't savages n such. Just I think people in "primitive culture" (don't even think that's accurate), or stage purple cultures, are in touch with things on a more primal and fundamental level that I feel attached to. Like senses of innoncence and love, but that the innocence is also very pure and strong as well, and able to be used in very noble ways as well, for goodness. ... I dunno. I guess I just really value and respect some aspects of those ways of being and don't want to put down others that way or describe people like that.

Heck ya. I get super sore calves and Achilles though each time... any suggestions? Yes. Run + Forest = SUPER PUMP: feel like a savage running through the woods... getting tribal... getting back those feelings of adrenalin of hunting and just "sending it" out in the bush... surviving... dominating...hunting...chasing...charging... Kinda like this guy yelling.

@K Ghoul Ya fair enough.

Who the hell knows if he actually said this. But I've heard similar wisdom in people who've gone out to live solo, doing spirituality, and then realized after a time that it was actually a sort of cop-out. That, being alone in the woods is way easier than being with people. That they grew more in relationships since they were constantly faced with their stuff. I doubt that there is a firm rule for every person in every situation, and I like to leave options open just in case. You never know, sometimes, the best thing a person needs for their growth is to be a hermit. Others might need relationships. One benefit, among many, I see in relationships is that you're not cocooned in your own bubble of biases, as people can call you out on stuff. Also the feeling of connection and deeper meaning (depending on the quality of the relationships). A downside could be that relationships, unhealthy ones, might hold you back from growing more.

58:50 ish "Some caution, the guy named 'Guna'.. joe.. I forget his name,,, the guy who did 30 days of 5-meo DMT claiming he's the most enlightened person ever by a factor of 50 or seomthing, but then it was mostly memorize and not deeply transformative inborn, baseline experience changes. He's sort of a cautionary tale. Pretty sure he's talking about Leo here, and his 30-day 5-meo retreat. Great podcast

Have you heard of Ken Wilber's AQAL model? Seems pretty in-depth. Also, Spiral Dynamics, or the 9-levels of Ego Development. ... Ken's work seems to focus definitely more on spiritual levels of development as well.

@K Ghoul Hey!!! I totally had this textbook for my Environmental Biology course last semester. Where are you going to school? ...sorry for the derailment haha

Cheers. I've been battling on and off again brain fog and difficulties concentrating. Does anyone know if this has been linked with heavy metals?

Feel those emotions. Feel the chest and love in there. Grief is a sign of care. Let it be felt. Let it out. There is a distinction I just learned between A) Grief (felt in the chest) and B) emptiness (felt lower in the abdomen). Sometime people feel and grieve the loss of loved ones, which is healthy. But then they feel a deeper hole in themselves. Apparently, this isn't about the person leaving, per se, but about a hole within the person themselves. Kindness though. Be yourself. Allow yourself, your feelings.

@Adam M How did you find the book? Did you do the detox? How involved was it (schedule? procedures? cost? etc.)? Did you experience any benefits? Cheers

I think/feel that sometimes, not always, there's wisdom in using healthy and strategic distractions (in the short term). I was watching this Daniel Ingram podcast and he brought this up when talking about dealing with emotions and the disciplined-head-on meditative attitude towards overcoming emotions by trying to feel all of it always. He advised that this can sometimes be even more traumatic and overwhelm people. Sometimes you just gotta watch funny cat videos and allow yourself that kindness. Which in itself is also a form of emotional growth: if you can allow yourself kindness and compassion in not doing what you "should" be doing in a healthy way. Of course, I agree that ultimately processing emotions means feeling them. I guess I think sometimes it can't hurt to just allow ourselves to be distracted, but then not making that a life-long or consistent pattern as well. "Feeling the feels to heal" seems to be key and a common piece of emotional advice I hear.

I feel like there's healthy and unhealthy forms of emotional pain. Also, I mean, what's "healthy" or "unhealthy" could be judged by the result that happens in the future after it. Like you might judge that binge eating ice cream because you feel so depressed is unhealthy if, 2 years later you look back and are still in a deep rut. Or, if 2 years later you saw that this experience helped you see you need to make a change. I guess it's relative. But, things to do to grow emotionally: Shadow work therapies of all types (i've been doing IFS therapy for a bit and have been experiencing significant gains) Psychedelics contemplation contemplation + psychedelics relationships and feedback from others observing your emotions and letting them go getting to the bottom of what your emotions are "saying" or mean. what aspect of you is feeling what and why. Learning to negotiate, communite with and understand yourself better. Meta meditation, gratitude, and forgiveness practices.

Maybe compare the quality of your motivation for each place you want to live. List why you want to live in that place, then ask why for each reason. Then get an overview of all your reason's to see you you can clearly distinguish if you is more "right" or healthy for you.

Spiritual Bypassing: Using spirituality to dissociate and escape from doing shadow and trauma work. "Using spirituality to rise above the shaking ground underneath." -Psych info Daniel Ingram in an interview seemed to communicate that spiritual insight or awareness can be used to dissociate (which he thought is also sometimes necessary as a coping strategy, but not as a long-term life habit).

Also, maybe it's time to shake things up a bit if you've been in a routine for a while. Doesn't have to be drastic either. Maybe some psychedelics, a vacation (that solo sounds nice). Maybe trying experimenting and exploring new things and ways of doing things.