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Oooo... straight to it eh? Gutsy @Michael569 Cheers. I'll give that a watch sometime. And ya, that issue in testing people seems like a big hurdle. Part of me thinks the science peeps can get overly attached to studies and double blind, placebo controls n data and "verification". But I also see the value in getting that info if you can forsure. But sometimes you just gotta try shit out yourself and rely on what you have and see if it works. I think a lot can be said for just experimenting and watching what happens. Obviously never 100% accurate in knowing what happened. But ya, do the best you can with what you have; better perhaps than doing nothing. Perhaps.

Also, does anyone know where I can get these tests (preferrably in Canada)? I tried going to DoctorsData, but they require you to be a doctor to use their services.

Also... yes. Absolutely agree. High school is a piece of fucking cake compared to working to support yourself fully. I'm 29 right now. If I would have done something different in high school knowing what I know now, I think I would have busted my ass way more in learning skills, creating stuff in my spare time, getting as much as I could from school, thinking about what I truly want, trying a ton more stuff, working on social skills, volunteering, etc.. Just using the time a lot better. It's, I think, more difficult to do this work when you're working 9-5, 5 days a week at a tiring job, including time spent commuting, compared to going to school 8:30-3, socializing, getting more breaks, and not doing really tiring work so you have more energy afterwards.

Finish high-school at least. Having a basic high-school diploma can go a long way. It's like the bare minimum in society. Without it I think it'll be a lot more difficult for you to just do the basics as well as pursuing your life purpose; getting jobs to make ends meet, going to college if you change your mind, or just doing other classes, events, and things that require high-school diplomas (or at least see it as a priority). Besides, you can make money after you graduate. There will be tons of time for that. A couple years' head-start won't get you that much further I think. If you are actually serious about it, I worked at a decent restaurant recently and they hired several high school students. So it's not like you can't do both. It just opens up a lot more doors having it than not. Also consider your priorities, desires, and values may change in the future. So, think about that when planning things out; when I'm 25 or 30 and have more life experience, will I have regretted not getting a high school diploma? Don't be this guy

Fuckin Sweet! Nice find Cheers

Am starting this as an experiment. Let's see how it goes. I journal quite a bit already on my diary (in writing), but I'm curious to see how this turns out. For one, I suspect it'll show me more of what I'm self-conscious of since other people may see it. So there's that social reflection that can highlight parts of yourself which can be missed if doing something solo. This is one thing I'm beginning to see more and more; the power of socializing in helping people notice things about themselves and then have the opportunity to grow from and through that. This is one, of several, perhaps many, criticisms I have of what to me seems like Leo's perspective is on things. In this case, him advocating more for being solo and doing most of one's growth and work alone with oneself. Sure, don't get me wrong, I love doing this and I believe it's a part of growth. But it ain't the only game in town, nor, perhaps, is it the best game since you're sort of isolated and not getting any feedback. Which can sort of expose you to being trapped in your own mind. I dunno, maybe some people are simply better at doing things solo than others. Or perhaps once a person reaches certain stages of development and awareness, being solo is where the majority of "good work" is done. No idea. All I know is that, I've done being alone for a long time and am noticing a significant lack in that domain, and now that I'm starting to be more social, I'm noticing many, many irritations and difficulties in forming relationships and just being with others. Everything from feeling triggered and disagreeing often with others to having certain limiting beliefs arise about my capabilities in forming relationships. Maybe I wish I started to focus more on socializing earlier. Maybe. But again, I don't know since maybe it's best this way (shoutout to Nahm for introducing this reframe in thinking: things are perfect the way they are, it's simply one's thoughts that disagree with reality as it is that cause suffering... at least I think this is what he mean). I've also recently started significantly reducing my YouTube and internet intake. Mainly I stick to emails, some actualized forum stuff, check Facebook once a day on average (I was never into before, mostly YouTube), and then some telegram on my phone. I'm noticing a lot more time to contemplate and journal, and that I have more cognitive space, and even just time in the day, to read and delve deeper into what I'm reading. It's like I can focus more on the book and have my mind working on that single book or theory rather than over-ingesting information all day and being overwhelmed by it all, unable to organize and integrate it all. I also recently just got some dental x-rays as a step towards doing Andy Cutler's heavy metal chelation protocol. I still have some doubts and worries about it, such as overwhelming my body by excreting more toxins than usual. Also, it's not like the chelation process doesn't come with side-effects, and things can go wrong. One of the concerns I have with the side effects is that it will even further disrupt my cognition, sleep, emotions, and memory more than I already seem to struggle with. I especially worry about it as it pertains to my employment and making sure I don't make too many mistakes such that I get fired. I work for FedEx driving, so there is some concern there with not only safety on the road but also just making sure to remember all the steps and tasks that are required for the job. Anyways, that's it for meow

Yo. Dude, have you checked out heavy metal toxicity? It might be an answer. It can apparently cause a bunch of random shit like tinnitus, depression, anxiety, dark circles under the eyes, cognitive and memory issues, sleep issues, muscle and joint aches, headaches, etc.. Might be something wise to look into. I just got my teeth x-rayed today to check for mercury amalgam as a step towards starting the process of chelation.

Even Jung said "Life begins at 40. Before then, it's just research."

Read on i say. Especially if you want to become a fiction writer. It totally makes sense. If you find it hard to accept, maybe treat it like research. Also, while you read, you can observe the ways and styles, even words, the author uses and make notes of them. Be more intentional about it and be more of an active learner in the process. Rather than doing it as mere pleasure and fun in a more relaxed way (which has its time and place as well). You could even study some non-fiction material about different styles and techniques in writing, and then as a case study, you could read a book that uses those. Then, to up the stakes, you could even write your own piece in that style as practice, and them master each style. You can do anything in a master-mindset way or a relaxed-for-fun way. You could even become a master at taking shits if you wanted. It's just how you approach it. Do you skim read and rush through the book unconsciously, missing pieces and never stopping to contemplate something you read or an idea that you got? Or do you really take time to not only read it all more deliberately and ingest all the details, even minor ones, but also take time to write notes and reflect on what you read? I've also heard writers, Hunter S. Thompson at least, and I'm sure more, who literally just write out for themselves books by writeds they admire to get the hang of how they write. I think Hunter S. Thompson said he rewrote a book by some famous authof like Twain or something multiple times just so he "ingested" the brilliance of hoe that author wrote and it would hopefully seep into his own writing.

I just copy and pasted the link at the top and it worked fine. Did you try that? At the very very top.

Does not seem 95. All the 95 year olds i know look like skeletons compared to him. I guess that's what living a monk's life will do to ya.

I think you're reading too much into them. Ya, I can get how you see that. But i see it as something positive in them just not taling things too seriously, having some fun. I doubt if you spoke to them in a seriois way they'd actually be thinking they are so much bettef than others n stuff. It's obvious they are just making fun of others and themselves (making fun of themselves about how the arrogant parts of themselves think they are better... which, to me, sounds pretty healtht and a sign of maturity: if you can own your "bad" or undesireable parts, not take them too seriously, and make fun of them). My take and view of them. I experience them as more grounded and real than most other self help people. Like, they show care and say that, and understanding, but also clearly don't try to paint themselves as above fun, quirks, etc. Which to me makes them way more trustworthy and grounded, "good", and humble peeps. Just like you and me. If you're taking Dave's antics as serious, I'd look again. To me he's clearly just shooting the shit and having tons of fun. They both are, which is probably why I find them so refreshing.

Background: This couple basically took Myers-Briggs and decided to put the scientific method to it and see if there's anything real about it. They watch people answer questions on video, go through a binary checklist of specifically defined terms (like "Thinking" means reasons and "Feeling" means values) to see what type they get at the end. They each type and watch the videos in different rooms so they are separate. They've typed like 4000 people and have 512 subtypes to the original 16 MBTI. Out of the 512 types they have, they each get the exact same type 80-90% of the time. Basically, they're seeing how though people might think they're unique and special, they're seeing that people are really just running such predictable "programs".

I'd tried cautiously. I know Ive done like a microdose (.15-.20 mg) and felt it knocked me into unstable territory. Then again, I've tried them and felt great. But, especially with metnal health, ere on the side of caution. Low doses. If you don't know if it's too low or you should take more, don't. Just settle for less. You can always do more in a week or so.

Let me know your thoughts, feelings, or intuitions about this strategy. Basically, I'm starting to feel fed up and a bit trapped with just doing these low paying, entry-level jobs. I feel like I'm hitting against some barrier to having more income with more free-time and doing something that replenishes me instead of exhausts me. I just feel really restricted and want to enjoy life, grow, and do things I want to do (duh:P). I guess I'm just feeling kind of hopeless and trapped. But, one way out is I'm considering getting getting a registered clinical counsellors' certificate which would mean I'd have to get a masters. I've already done three out of four semesters for a diploma in psychology, which means I'd need another five years or so of school to complete the masters. This is obviously no small investment, which is one reason why I'm hesitant on it and have been considering it for years. On the other hand, I mean, what else is there? What else is there that is somewhere in the vein and domain I'm best suited for, and that will also increase my wage (thus free-time as well)? I mean, I have felt some excitement at the thought of doing that. And I've had many of my own encounters with mental health (personal experiences and studying) that I've grown compassion and empathy in that way, as well as intellectual knowledge. Another plus of doing it is that, though I may have to start by working for some sort of organization, it would A) give me some credentials on the resume which could help down the road if I want to create something with others, advertise myself, etc., and B) could eventually lead me to run my own practice and then from their, if I can sustain it, move on to doing things "my way" moreso and really having more freedom financially and time-wise. One worry I have is that A) I might not be able to afford it, B) counselling may be wayyyy off the mark for me and be too exhausting emotionally. Though, I suppose if that's the case, I'm sure I can make it work some other way. It's not like a master's in counselling isn't useful elsewhere. I welcome your thoughts.

Well, at least that adds evidence to the idea that other people are going through the same thing as you. Meaning that it could have less of a chance of being weighed against you since it's normalized. I'm not saying it's ideal, a good strategy, or what you want, but just a little consideration to bring some peace of mind.

Accomplish stuff in reality.

I'm just reading Religion of Tomorrow... Ya. And in repeating himself over and over and over again. It's like he's trying to smash some, to be honest, fairly simple concepts into your skull (not without some strategically placed self-advertising of Integral theory throughout). Concepts which he could explain in a book 1/4 of what Religion of Tomorrow is. It's like "ya, we get it. There's states and stages, which you can transcend and include. And you can get hung up on each one by either rejecting it or being too attached to it." Bam... integral in a nutshell. ... sorry for the tangent off topic.

I wonder if they are similar due to some common human function, chemical makeup, or something. As another possibility to consider along with the Infinite Being one, the computer simulation one, the "we're in a dream" one, the, I dunno, w/e other one you come up with #Staying Open

I've found that moments of hopelessness often allow for opportunities for examining the beliefs and assumptions and ways of thinking of things. Recently I was feeling some stuckness, but then I began looking at why and the beliefs, thoughts, and worldviews I was carrying that made things seem hopeless. I then was able to question the worldview and then reframe it to something more positive and motivating. I felt so much energy afterwards and positivity. I was previously thinking of my life purpose and career as something "given", "ordained", or that there was something specific I should be doing or am built for. This was causing a lot of self-doubt and indecision, and thus lack of progress, since the way I was thinking of life purpose was "if I pick the wrong thing I'm fucked since there is a specific right thing out there for me". I reframed it to something wayyyyy more creative, inspiring, and motivating: basically, thinking of life purpose (and anything in life really) as not at all given (NO "SHOULDS" or "OUGHTS"), meaning that anything I choose is good and I can make my own life the way I see best. This reframe totally freed me up to feel, well, FREE! Now I see things as more like a building project, an art project, where one piece adds to the next and I can form things as I go. Sure, maybe I'll make some "mistakes" as in doing something that I don't prefer, but that just means I know where not to go now. It's all good. Of course, I still get into those ruts of hopelessness. But, maybe that means there's just more reframing and changing of beliefs to do. And I'm sure it will take some time and practice to fully embody this new way of thinking and reap the benefits. Maybe asking "why do I feel hopeless?" and then really spelling it out. Precisely. Maybe write it down. What are the reasons, the beliefs, the conceptual frameworks that are creating this feeling of hopelessness? What way do hold the world, yourself, others, such that you would feel hopeless? Can you be absolutely sure that those beliefs are true? (here's some of Byron Katie's work ) How do you feel when you believe those thoughts? (ex: I feel hopeless) Who would you be without those thoughts? (ex: I be hopeful, excited, and motivated and be out creating and doing things with friends and people, trying to create what I wish to see and be). What's the opposite of that thought or belief? (ex: if the belief is "there's not enough high paying jobs that I can apply for", the opposite of the belief could be "there are enough high paying jobs I can apply for", or "there aren't enough low-paying jobs I can apply for", -- do all the variations). What are three examples that the opposite of the original thought is true? (ex: 1) I did see that job I didn't like but is higher paying I can apply for, 2) I could apply for a high paying job and just see what happens, 3) I could save up some money over a few years to get certified in something to then feel more prepared to apply for high paying jobs). Also, I'd recommend looking at your fears. ... The other side of them may be the key to your success, freedom, and feeling good again. What decisions or options have you taken off the table, not since they aren't possible, but because, truly, you're afraid of something that might happen if you do make that decision? For me, I think part of me feeling stuck is because I'm scared to change jobs again as I think/feel that I've changed jobs too many times and that employers won't like that in the future, and I'm scared I won't get employed in the future if I keep jumping around and not developing any solid skills. Is this true? I dunno. Maybe. But maybe not. Unsure.

Word. Though, I would add that, yes try to pick the "best" one possible (w/e you see that as), but also, I think that bringing more and more awareness and consciousness to this "need for the wheel, the chase" can lessen it in degrees over time. So that, though you may still and perhaps always be on some sort of wheel (enlightenment, sex, money, feelings, travel, food, love, admiration, belonging, etc.), there could be a possibility that the degree to which you feel compelled to be on the wheel might be able to be diminished. So, yeah, sure, you still find yourself chasing something, maybe relationships, but you notice that the compulsion to do so is less than it was before. You don't need it as much. Maybe, if you go far enough, you can completely let it go, and having that which you chased compared to not having it will be the same to you in terms of feeling satisfied.

I think that being honest might save you a lot of trouble in the end. Like, consider that if you answered YES and lied, you might have been put in a job which you really didn't like and ended up either quitting soon, or being in that job you didn't like might make you more miserable and you know how that can affect the rest of your life. You also get peace of mind knowing you stayed true. Well done. On the other hand, maybe the quiz is not ideal and inaccurate, and maybe it would have gotten you a job that you would have liked. Who knows?! Anyways, applause on staying true. I bet you feel better for it. Maybe try contemplating the trade offs between lying or staying true in this situation. Imagine all the possible consequences and the causes and effects that could potentially follow from them. Like, if you lied, maybe that would have made you feel like a fraud at work and that would have maybe made you less social, and in turn that maybe would have gotten you fired and you would have been fired without a good reference to use, and etc. etc. etc. But don't over think it either. Sometimes just accepting, letting go, and moving on are wise things to do. Basically... You never know.

Ya, that's been a thought I had as well. But, I just spoke with my Dad's friend who's a coach and she shared her experiences in the field and taking a program to start her off. Basically, she took this coaching-business program with like 88 people in it, and week after week she noticed the number 1 issue was that after people had used up their "warm leads" (people they knew), they couldn't make a living off of the cold leads. It was too hard. What struck her was how hard the business is, how crowded it is, and that only if you hustle hard 24/7 chasing down leads will you maybe be able to make a go of it beyond play money. The only reason she found success she that was because she A) didn't need the money as she already had a 15 or so career coaching university and Olympic women's basketball, B) she had a huge advantage in terms of credibility and reputation (e.g. Olympic and University basketball coach), and C) her niche was crowded (e.g. she focuses her coaching on sports and helping athletes). Her thoughts on coaching programs, I think, was that credibility and reputation are probably more significant. Though, I could be mistaken in her saying that. She said "Wow, I'm glad I'm not a coach". She even said there was all kinds of coaches in her coaching program, reiki, emotional, personal development, drums, etc. etc. etc. Now, I know the old adage of "If you hustle, you can do it", but I think it's probably too difficult in combination with my desire to do it probably isn't high enough to make it worth my while. I'm assuming. Especially since I do deal with lots of mental health and stress stuff already, and find just regular life pretty difficult already, so adding the extra hustle 24/7 thing is probably, I'm guessing, not the wisest move for me. This is where getting the counselling masters degree and becoming a registered clinical counsellor might be a better option I'm thinking. It's more easy (I'm trying to balance what's difficult/easy for me compared to what regular people consider difficult/easy and trying not to have others' definitions of what easy/difficult is be what mine is as, I think, I need to go a lot more easy on myself than most people). ... Anyhoos... Ya. Thoughts.

I'm considering doing this $4500 coaching course. It's from The Graduate Institute which offers some, what I consider, high quality consciousness programs (like an MA in Consciousness Studies), not to mention having had Bonnitta Roy attend or teach there (someone I consider very advanced and developed; stage "yellow" at least). This program is also ICF approved. The only thing is that I'm wondering if it's wise to get this first or a business course first. I can see how getting this course first would A) help me out in my own life in terms of growth and healing, B) give me skills and a certified document that are more marketable than what I currently have. But I can also see how if I get this course first without business training, then I may end up like someone who's found the greatest treasure in the world, only it's in a cave that's impossible to access. On the otherhand, if I take a business course first, gain skills in bussiness, this may allow me to become more versatile in creating projects and smaller business opportunities over the long-term, which could eventually lead to gaining the money needed for this course. I mean, know either way has its pros and cons. And I could really learn either on my own. ... ... Having said that, I do think that the information in this coaching course is probably less freely available than information in a business course. Thus making it more valuable to get first. But I could be wrong. Anyways... Another piece of the puzzle is that I am one semester away from finishing a diploma in psychology (which, honestly, won't get me far in terms of job market) and it's sort of like, I have enough money for only one thing: the last semester of college (which, in the long-run, could potentially lead to a masters and certified counsellor. Though, that's a long road and lots of money if I choose it), the coaching program, a business course, or possibly multiple shorter and less expensive courses that could add up. Anyhoo... Let me know what you think. Cheers Here's the links to the course info: It's the level 1 course. https://learn.edu/coaching-with-spirit/ https://learn.edu/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/CWS-1_Requirements-2022.pdf

I dunno. I bet you can if you familiarized yourself with it over a few months. I still they are onto something with people being basically clones. Obviously "everyone is unique" in their own way. But i think the gist of what they're saying is true in that people, especially if you get people who are the same type of the 512 subtypes, are doing/sayin/having the same issues/etc. the same things. I suppose i see them as being more able to see this than the average indicidual since they make a deliberate effort of studying thousands of people answering questions . So they have that background and, to me, that lends more credence to their claims rather than regular folks who don't do that. In my humble opinion