Matt23

Are you starting to become tired and even pained by this life? I suppose... if so and you're wanting to become more loving with people... One way I'm sort of been experiencing this lately is (I've had a similar experience... or at least a similar general experience of going full hermit and then wanting to connect with others more)... is that I notice how much feeling-love I have for people, even in person too... but also how much hate and frustration as well. One way may be to practice empathy deliberately. Another could be just doing work and projects with others, volunteer even, and just get to know people and the struggles and complexities of being a human via others. This may generate more care and compassion for them as you get to see how difficult and complex it is, thus, you may develop more tolerance for them and forgiveness (at the very least). This could backfire as well since, if you do it too much, you may get more disgruntled. So I suppose a key may be to do something you personally find meaningful and do it with others so that the intrinsic meaning you feel will hopefully carry you through the tough shit with people so that you grow from the experience rather than get discouraged.

Guilty. lol

Why not? Why does something being imaginary or not have anything to do with your ability and motivation to want and enjoy that thing or find meaning and value in it? Can't you just enjoy the thing without having a reason for doing so? It's ok to do that. lol. It's all good brotha. Or sista... dunno which.

.... Really? C'mon... I don't see how you can equate Canada to being a totalitarian shit hole like Russia. This is like saying ice cream is just as shitty as mud since it's also equally as mushy. I just think you're making an unrealistic and unfair comparison. Where would you prefer living? Realistically; Canada or Russia? I think it's fair to say that no matter where you are, what country you live in, there will be corruption and things you disagree with and deam bad and immoral. Fair enough. But consider it's a matter of degrees here. Like, ya, you can nit pick all the shitty things Canada or other Western nations have done, but compare that to the way Putin and his government run Russia (literally trying to assassinate political opponents like Nivalny, and most likely rigging elections leading to Putin's 20+ year reign. I'm sure there's a ton more dirty stuff that government has done and ways that are far worse than the dirty things Western countries do).

I didn't write on the topic before it was closed and want to share my thoughts, feelings, and perspectives. I don't know whether any are correct or partially correct at all, but this is where I see and feel at the moment. I deeply feel hurt when I heard the news. Nahm... I love him so much. I love you. You were great to me during our sessions and all the wisdom you shared. I loved all your quirks and weird ways of speaking, even if I did feel frustrated at them at times. Over time I began to try to learn to not just write it off as hocus-pocus and cryptic talk but tied to actually use my noggin to try and understand it. At the very least, what I felt and heard from you was coming from a loving place and you were a great guide and friend. I love you and wish you were still around. I feel you offered a great feeling-oriented balance to Leo's brainy and more harsh stance and attitude on things often. I feel you were well serving this community with this alternate perspective, even if it was difficult to understand and even frustrating at times, bordering on being dismissive haha. It's all good though. I love you dearly. As for Leo, I feel mixed feelings and am seriously beginning to question him, enlightenment, and even if it's just his take on things. First, I feel deeply frustrated and bitter towards you, like cuz I love Nahm so and you hurt me (this is my "child-self" talking.. venting, I don't believe Leo really "hurt" me in that much of an accusatory sense intellectually, but emotionally this is what I feel). I'm just like, "WTF man... why do you have to go around being so fucking bossy n shit?!" That's that anyways. I guess I just believe Leo is taking this stuff too seriously and not allowing enough cross-pollination between his and other views and perspectives, which is leading him and this community to treat into more cult-ish like waters, which I'm concerned about. I think I'm mostly concerned for Leo since, I'm starting to see him as being more lost in his own self, self-significance perhaps (dunno), and mind. Like, I just think he's being too serious, too alone and isolated in his perspective, and too much about himself perhaps. Perhaps. I'm worried Leo is or has been getting a bit more deluded. Dunno. But like, it's easy for me to see how this whole Actualized.org mission, awakening, etc., is connected to some insecurity, perhaps from childhood, which he's trying to counter from. Maybe I'm projecting, sure, valid. But maybe not. I'm sensing it may be the right view. But again, I dunno. Please, I don't wish to have big arguments about this. The state I'm feeling as I write this comes mostly from concern and wish or hope he's not this way as there is a felt sense of care involved as well. I had this shift in perspective before viewing the Nahm situation when I did an MDMA trip and really realized how seriously I was taking my own self and life. Love is chill is the main lesson I was shown or saw then. Love doesn't take itself too seriously, it isn't big, it is chill, relaxed, humble, even small sometimes. I believe it's definitely possible projection is happening (to what degree or how much, I dunno). On the other hand though, it takes one to know one, and I believe I have a similar personality type (as do many) in terms of being someone who more puts themselves and their own self-significance as a top priority as opposed to being other-focused and group-focused. This isn't bad in and of itself. Though I believe certain personalities can develop imbalances where they swing, naturally, without doing enough personal work, towards one extreme or the other; either being too giving and selfless or too self-centered and confident. I do feel it's right though to acknowledge that Leo probably does take himself and the work he does, even enlightenment, too seriously and that it's time to stop that since it not only hurts others but also himself. And I don't want him to be in pain. I just hope Leo is fine and that Nahm is fine (I don't doubt he is :P). I just believe Leo is moving dangerously towards being a sort of cult-leader of sorts (I use this term hesitantly since it is loaded and a bit provocative... perhaps a better word could be "isolated", in connection with some sort of self-delusion or deception). Anyways... Ya, I just don't like the move he made and view it as something that further makes him seem like what I described; a sort of increasingly self-isolating cult-leader who shuns others who disagree with him. Which, valid or not, may be accurate to different degrees and may not be true at all. I don't know. At the very least, Leo, if you don't know if you're deluding yourself or heading down misguided territory, you must know that this makes you seem more of what was described above. I probably assume you do. ... Blah... words. Anways. Nahm, I hekin love you buddy. I realize others have mixed opinions about you, i dunno, could be true, could be false, I dunno.. Either way, the experiences I had with you were lovely and awesome and I wish we had more time together and that you could still offer advice here (yes, even if some of it can seem a bit... well... you know... "Nahmish" and perhaps not necessarily the best or right choice of verbage...lol). Leo, I love you too and wish you were better at making things more or less stringent and more just chill. Like, ya... What was said comes from a place of concern for you and being uncertain about what's happening with you over there, rather than much pain, anger, or misery. I'm just not sure you're "all there" or "all right" etc... I wish you were more a bit about people rather than concepts. But hey, I mean, it's gotta come from you so, it's all your choice I suppose. ... Love ya's all. I'd love it if this didn't turn into a big argument fest. I imagine people's reaction will vary. Doesn't matter I suppose. But I just dislike too much arguing and hatred and stuff and desire to have this be more constructive and coming from a place of caring concern and gratitude rather than disliking and hating each other. Getting along you know? I know Leo has views I disagree on, and my skepticism for him as increased... but still... we can all still get along. Love ya'll (haha, even if you argue.. I do too :P) Enjoy. P.S.: Please leave it up for at least a day or two. Let people view this perspective and let them choose whether they believe it's sane, valid, and good or not. Let them choose.

And don't think that war is only done physically (or "kinetically"). A lot of the rebel wisdom crowd (danielle schmachtenberger n such) talk about info war which has been the primary means of war in recent years. And both sides do it: creating propoganda (for the enemies and their own citizenry), etc.. Don't believe everything you hear and read. "News nowadays is more akin to entertainment." I forget who said it... maybe D. Shmachtenberger... dunno. Seems reasonable.

Cheers

Over the last few days, I'm just really seeing how shitty and disruptive my experience has been. Emotionally, relationally, employment, thoughts, suicidality, general stability, etc.. I know everyone says to not diagnose oneself and to get a professional who's experienced in the field to diagnose you, which I totally agree with. But recently I've been looking into Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD), specifically one of the 4 subtypes therein called something like the "Depressive" type, and have just felt and thought that like ya, I mean I feel/think it would help a lot perhaps and explain a lot of my history and experience. It seems to just fit somehow. I guess I'm suspicious, like a subtle non-excited suspicion, that hey, maybe I do have some sort of BPD or could relatively easily get that diagnosis if I went to someone who's and expert in that field. Whether mental illness is an actual thing, I don't think I agree with on an ultimate level (even as in like there are no independent things--- Buddha style). As in, from my knowledge, mental health disorders are just labels placed upon patterns of thinking, feeling, and behaving. So whether or not there's some "solid" thing called BPD or Depression or Bipolar is up to debate and interpretation. But as far as getting a diagnosis to inform treatment and help, maybe I could get that and maybe it would help. I can already feel the feeling of being a certain medical thing... some "sick" thing that comes with those labels. "Illness" "Disorder" etc... I feel that badness from them... from thinking and believing I am those things. I've held off on getting a diagnosis cuz something just feels bad about that. Something feels bad about the whole scientific and diagnostic way and culture for mental health. Like, I dunno what it is. Maybe part of it, or the majority, is feeling like if I get a diagnosis, then I'll take that on as an identity and become trapped inside of that and even start to "be" that diagnosis. Another reason why I've held off seeking a diagnosis is because I fear it may limit my ability to participate in certain things. Things like psychedelic ceremonies and retreats, meditation retreats, and god knows what else. I can also see it influencing how others treat me and interact with me and see me, such that they may treat me differently and thus I'll eventually take on how they're treating and seeing me. I'm wanting to know your experiences and/or opinions on getting mental health diagnosis for specific disorders. If you've had one and could go back in time, would you do it again? What were the drawbacks and what were the benefits? Obviously the main benefit I can see is that it can help drive and inform support. Whether that's stuff like governmental mental health support or things like getting a better idea on what specific therapies could be most helpful. Let me know. Cheers

ISFP jumper (meaning instead of Fi,Se, as my top two functions, I'm Fi,Ni)

file:///C:/Users/ninte/Downloads/Adapt%20to%20Our%20Uncertain%20Future.pdf From https://futurethinkers.org/ They also have a decent podcast from the little I've watched it, with some stage yellow peeps on it. From the little experience I've had with them, I'd put them around High Green, some Yellow on SD. Maybe some Orange in there too. SUMS: 15 FACTORS THAT WILL RADICALLY CHANGE THE WORLD We live in an economic bubble that will almost certainly burst. America and Europe are likely to decline as global leaders, as Asia rises. The divide between the rich and poor is increasing globally. There is a trend of moving from centralization to decentralization - in technology, finance, business, government, and communication, and other fields. Life expectancy is increasing, while birth rates decrease globally. More people are staying single and childless. Young people are increasingly seeking purpose, sustainability, and spiritual meaning. There is a global mental health crisis, with ¼ of adults in the developed world suffering from depression and anxiety. Big data has become big business, and it’s exposing our blind spots and weaknesses. Phones and social media are designed to be more addictive. Data privacy is an increasing concern. . Automation and robotics are changing the job landscape. Artificial Intelligence is increasing in power, causing ethical concerns. Biotech and nanotech are simultaneously a source of hope and existential risks. Immigration is changing the face of nations. Whites will no longer be the majority of US and Europe by mid century. There is a rise in totalitarian governments and technology companies. Surveillance is increasing. Climate change and environmental destruction will increase natural disasters, diseases, food and water shortages, supply chain disruption, regional conflicts, and mass migration. HOW WE PREPARED FOR THE FUTURE IN THE YEAR 2000 Get a University degree Learn a technical skill - i.e. coding Learn critical thinking Gain knowledge Put faith in the right authority Build a bunker HOW TO PREPARE FOR THE FUTURE IN THE YEAR 2019+ Learn how to learn Learn how to take on different perspectives and roles Become more resilient and antifragile Become more self-sovereign and take on responsibility Learn to meditate, gain self knowledge Take better care of the monkey Envision and create the future you want

rating: 6.5-7/10 Just finished reading The Religion of Tomorrow. -- so keep in mind that this review is ad hoc and not well-thought out yet. Just general first impressions. Phew. Goddamn that was a piece of work. Lots of words, that's fosho. My dislikes/issues with it: I guess my general first impression is that the first 3/4 or so was just repeating a lot of stuff ad nauseum, as well as a bit of self-promoting (which I think is throughout the book and his work in general). It could've been condensed down to 1/4 the size in my opinion. Also, there was lots of more passion-infused writing talking about God which, to me, could have been significantly shortened which, in my opinion, would have preserved the message's quality. Rather, it came off a bit overboard, excessive, and extravagant. Here's an example paragraph of what I'm talking about in terms of being a bit too superfluous in his writing sometimes, rather than educational and informative (remember, this is one of many): "But as the leading edge of evolution itself (uniting both the highest structure and the highest state in an ongoing, unfolding manner- fully bringing together Growing up and Waking up for the first time in all of Kosmic history), the Supermind is an embodiment and epitome of the outrageous miracle that evolution itself is: the single, greatest, all-pervading, driving force (Eros, Spirit-in-action) running through out the universe in literally all domains the one imprint that no existing phenomenon anywhere in the universe does not feel; the bright Brilliance of the nondual union of the ultimate, infinite Divine Reality with its everyday, ordinary, finite operations; the intersection of the unimaginable creative involutionary currents (creating Something out of Nothing) and the equally creative evolutionary drives (creating Something out of Everything), each serving the other in the most intimate of ways; the radical nonduality of an Absolute Truth in desperate love with the productions of Relative Truth, which themselves are in helpless adoration of their Lover; the very mechanism where, in a sense, the entire Kosmos reaches down (Agape) and pushes up (Eros) in the creation and manifestation of each and every single new entity and event; the Kosmic Address where can be found the perfect intersection of the Mind of God and the mind of Humanity as they become perfectly indistinguishable' and the cutting, biting, leading edge of an unfolding Humanity on the verge of moving into its own Sperhumanity, a trans-transhuman superfuture in which an entirely new era in the history of the Kosmos beings unfolding, in which the two fundamental dimensions of Reality disclosed thus far - Absolute and Relative - come into a nondual binding junction that will henceforth be the always present, all-pervading, common unity-ground of each and every thing unfolding during that subsequent era (and hence allowing a new dimension, a new Ground, of all previous Grounds to come into actuality, and hence an entirely new and profound and even Greater Liberation).? ...Phew! holy crap. lol. Ok... sooo... you get my drift now? I dunno, I just think using words like "superfuture" decreases his credibility. Like, for me anyways, it just seems too "out there" and extravagant. I also don't want to "dig" him or his book too much, since I believe he's a good dude doing some good work, with a few things I think he can improve on. My two cents. There was a lot of work done with it, it seemed anyways. the parts I liked best I think the last 1/4 of the book was my favorite as he introduced new concepts and didn't go over the same-old same-old. Things like semiotics (the study of languages) and how he sees that tying into his ontology, as well as how that could help improve our current spiritualities and human development. It was also nice to go through the section on dysfunctions to get a more specific understanding of how he views neuroses, including going over several types of neuroses and how they connect with and are characteristic of certain levels of development. Though I think I notice him referring to the same people, studies, and concepts a good amount, he did introduce some new thinkers, books, and theories to investigate further. People I've never heard of, which I can research further to broaden my exposure to new ideas. I might try to compile all the concepts from his book (or the ones I remember) into bite-sized pieces with summarized definitions so people can scan through them in "chunks" without having to read the whole thing. Hopefully this helps people get the gist of what was in it. Then I might try to connect conceptual "chunks" together where necessary. Not sure yet though. If I do, I might just do it under these notes. Or maybe it makes more sense to create a new post in the High Consciousness Resources section. General impressions Overall, maybe it wasn't the most useful or practical book for me right now. But, it was on my mind for a while so I thought I'd just knock it out of the park and see what I thought. It was enjoyable, frustrating, boring, long, interesting, repetitive, and extravagant. I think it's strength is probably mostly as an introduction to certain ideas and thinkers in a general sense. Which, therefore, it lacks in certain spots specificity in explanations. I question how practical it is in terms of psychologists or spiritual teachers using it. Yes, perhaps it does provide frames for explaining reality in a very comprehensive way. But as for actual usage, I'm suspect. Jamie Wheal speaks to this in an interview with Rebel Wisdom where he said, since he was a student of Wilber's, that he had taken the AQAL framework to try and improve some organizations. They found that, ultimately, to get any practical results happening, they had to simplify the model down to A) individuals, B) groups, and C) organizations. But as a spiritual, psychological, model nerd, ya, it's nice for sure . Anyways, give it a go if you feel up for it. I got it at the library here so it wasn't a huge investment. Maybe not the best choice for people who are not super serious about spirituality and psychology. You'll probably get more benefit from reading the regular self-help stuff. But still, you never know, it's not like there's nothing worthwhile in the book. It's just dense and, ya, you heard the shpeel already. Enjoy.

Dunno... But let me know if you find any lol.

I will say this though... Reading books on things definitely gives more and is different than only watching videos.

Ya... explore them one at a time. Maybe spend a few months doing one and then move on. See how it feels. ... Also, a tidbit i heard yesterday... in order to make a dream a reality, you have to kill off all other dreams. Or else, in the end, you may be left with nothing but dreams and not having ever done anything.

"You don't need good reasons to have feelings and opinions, likes and dislikes. You can just like or dislike something without having any reasons." Enjoy

Maybe. Or even people who are really passionate about that stuff, or eho are perhaps professionals in the field, like psychologists, researchers, theorists, and ya, like you said, political leaders (or any type perhaps) and spiritual teachers. Again though, it's not like i think it's worthless for regular peeps to read. There's lots of gpod stuff in there. Just, maybe some of it gets too heady and conceptual. I dunno. There are a few practical exercises which is nice. Maybe it's a gpod book to follow up on the sources and people he cites to dig deeper and more specific. ... I guess i'm starting to not view concepts and theories as importantly as i did before since, even though I've been studying and reading and watching this type of thing for many years, i don't know how kuch knowing these theories have really improved my life. It's also not like people haven't grown without knowing them. So. May e im just more in favor of practical stuff (or stuff you can DO) at the moment (not that i totally embody this... more of a thought-preference).

Right. Cuz there's like the thought, belief, or concept of "ego", or "it's the ego". But that could be very different from seeing the ego (for if you did, you might realize there ain't no such thing and transcend the fear). Maybe it's a "meta-awareness" issue of not fully being aware of some ego aspects that are still a subject (rather than object) for you "behind" your awareness. ... hence the question and looking for "who is afraid?" Or "what is afraid?" ... even "why am i afraid?" ... Caveat: I've not had any awakenings. Though i have done lots of self inquiry and meditation.. just to keep in mind where this advice is coming from.

Any idea what the cases are in those countries? Especially Norway and Sweden? Have we seen a rise since they loosened their restrictions compared to other countries (not that it's a 1-to-1 correlation as each country os different, thus other factors specific to that country counld be contributing as well... but good to get some idea perhaps).

Maybe try bringing that same awareness to the fear. Perhaps ask and try to becpme aware of whoever it is that is fearing.

Hmm... is that true?

Yaaa.... don't do it if you truly don't want to. You'll probably just develop a lot of resentment and frustration by doing it if you don't really want to. It's like the difference between your parents making you go to college or you having a dream of being a doctor so you do it yourself. But in this case, you're playing the part of your parents as well. You might even develop an "allergy" to those types of people and activities and some shadow material. Stuff that maybe you could've avoided if you did it on your own time and authentic motivation. Buuuttttt.... I dunno. On the other hand, it might be a great learning experience and show you stuff about reality and yourself. ... Actually... you know what.... I think you should do it. I think doing shit, even if it seems misguided or forced, is good. Any experience is good experience. Have at it. Get dirty. Play in the mud. Have fun and adventures. You might even really enjoy it.

In connection with one of the latest videos on Leo's blog with Daniel Schmachtenberger where they spoke about existential risk, here's a question If we are headed for a significant and fast approaching global shift (anything from a complete apocalyptic breakdown to a techno-spiritual utopia), what do you consider to be some essential skills and assets to acquire? It could be anything from certain ways of thinking, emoting, and interpersonal skills, to hands-on practical skills like wilderness first aid, permaculture, or being able to build a radio from scavenging your local neighborhood. Some ideas to get started: Altering States of Consciousness: in order to help problem solve, make decisions, and access wisdom and intuition more easily. meditation growing and using your own psychedelics breathwork communication and teamwork skills even for those of us who work better on our own, I think these skills will be crucial since, if things do "go to pot", being on your own will be a lot more difficult than being able to function effectively in a group. Basic first aid. Basic survival skills (how to start fires, build shelters, stay warm andn dry, etc.) These are obviously applicable for an Apocalypse scenario... ... But what about skills and assets that would be essential for an ideal outcome? Some sort of globally harmonized super-culture infused with the best of tech and spirituality together? A sort of galactic lightpost (lol... I don't want to sound like a nutjob here)? The ability to love unconditionally Highly advanced and complex cognitive abilities how would you even develop this? ... psychedelics perhaps. Intense creativity. Intense motivation, passion, and drive.

Makes sense intuitively to me in part. I do think that it's still possible to survive going solo. People have done it before. Though, I don't think many would have that type of personality. Perhaps even if people did do it solo practically speaking, eventually they may just give up since they'd think "What's the point of me even surviving alone?" A sort of nihilistic wall.

How exactly if you don't mind sharing? Just wondering.