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Hello, I am really fascinated about computer programming and also spirituality. Currently, I am meditating and also working on enlightenment process, but at the same time I am developing websites and also working on mobile apps. I am finishing my 12th grade this year and would like to major in computer programming, because I see a huge possibility to earn a significant amount of money from IT. And also my friends/colleges will be studying there, too. After acquiring a required money and skills set I am willing to invest all that into creating a mobile games company. But at the same time, I hear a lot of negative feedback about mobile games. People say that games are counter productive and more actualized ones claim that they lower consciousness...However, I did an interesting investigation, which disproved this belief. I watched really closely my attention and all perceptions while playing games. And I definitively feel, that not all games distract you, because some of them even evolve your creativity and create a mindful state, filled with a high level of concentration. Also, I have contemplated a lot about future of humanity and I see that a lot of careers will be automated by robots/AI, like doctors, lawyers and etc. At the same time, I feel that people will even play video games more, but for creative and mindful reasons. Not for fast enjoyment and escaping reality. That is why, I would like to hear some researched opinion about video games. I just can't see it as a factor for lowering consciousness, if playing simple, not fast paced and beautifully designed games. But maybe it is just my ego trying to defend my beliefs and my life purpose

Interesting topic and some valid insights! @Leo Gura I contemplated another day about science, and I got an insight that science can be much broader than it is formulated in the world. I actually believe that computer science can also be considered as science, and it does not matter that it is artificial, because distinction between artificial is natural is not absolute one. Also, mathematics can be considered as science too? And ecology, other domains which include research, data gathering. Or am I tricking myself and justifying my life purpose ?

@Leo Gura Thanks for your videos! I am really behind all this, however during my hardcore meditation sessions I do sometimes feel that everything is made of the same substance... And, correct me if I am wrong, did you also feel that there is now distinction between camera, alive beings or fruits and etc? Are they all made from the same substance? So that means, that distinction between natural and artificial is indeed a false one... Or am I projecting something and misleading myself? Thanks for you dedication!

I actually the one who thinks that intuition might be misleading. From my experience intuition is leading in wrong ways. I have tested it in some serious situations. And if I need to get some knowledge or to decide some business/career options I rather use serious contemplation/meditation and even breathing techniques to reach a different state. So I don't trust my intuition almost at all, I find focus/contemplation are better ways to get insights. And I found that Sadhguru also thinks that intuition might be misleading So I would be careful to trust your intuition. http://isha.sadhguru.org/blog/yoga-meditation/demystifying-yoga/cant-always-trust-gut-feeling/

Hello I rarely post new topics, but today while reading about AI (got tired after programming 3 days straight ) I thought maybe Sadhguru has opinion about this topic! Surprisingly he has ! He posted a message about AI just 3 weeks ago! If you are interested, please read it. It is very interesting and so accurate... I cannot understand, how such mystic has ability to understand things so amazingly.. http://isha.sadhguru.org/blog/sadhguru/artificial-intelligence-growth-mean-humanity/ P.S. I don't know if this forum is right for this topic, maybe it should be transferred to another sub forum Sorry for any disturbance..

I also spend a little bit of time researching diet. The thing is that since 14 I have not crave any sweets and fats. Maybe, because I started to be really sensitive to my stomach. I mean I don't feel pain, but if I eat something and it still is not digested fast I feel really bad... It seems that I am really aware of my stomach and digestive system. As far as my current diet I mostly eat vegetables and fruits, however since I am 18 I need to eat some chicken, so I also include some chicken in my diet. And so for I tried intermittent fasting. It is amazing thing! I actually feared it a little bit, cause of my age, but the results are amazing. My blood had got better quality and energy has also increased.And meditation got better, then you fasting. Have you tried intermittent fasting? Also I would recommend buckwheat as a super food !

@Geromekevin Yes this is really a profound book! Also there is amazing book in Leo's books list about spirituality and computer science/AI. I personally believe that AGI will be a real deal pretty much in 20-30 years. The speed of computer technology is exponential, there never was a similar science, which progressed as fast as computer science. Also, the community in computer science/machine learning is much more profound and productive in comparison with other fields, because people willingly contribute, share source codes and ideas. I bet strong AI will be much sooner than mainstream genetic engineering. I actually disagree with that. First of all, Google recently stated that their Neural networks and deep learning started to rewrite and edit itself, because it is even more efficient than to program it ( my ego was really hurt by that, cause I study computer science and am passionate about programming/AI ). Aside from that, Google's company Deep Mind has advanced Alpha Go to such level that it is capable to create absolutely new creative insights about GO, the game, which is intuitive and more profound than chess. It completely shifted idea of "perfect way of playing" in GO. I highly encourage to read this page, because it is informative and provides a new information(2017 October 16). https://deepmind.com/blog/alphago-zero-learning-scratch/ The future will be bright with AI!

Hello, I am so excited to share my first concentration improving game - android app(I believe so). So basically I got this summer a job in app development company and I got a ton of work here( However the work is not really creative, it mainly focuses on solutions for developers). Still I like my job, because I am 18 and after 1 month I am going straight to university, so experience is very important. Despite my work I still found time to develop this game. I feel that one of my most important goals in life is to create new, unique and conscious games and apps. This one is still an easy one, but it is extremely difficult for one person to create a beautiful and exciting game. In order to do that, I created a strategy: start from small apps and then continue with bigger projects. (I hope to find more passionate people, who are interested in similar apps development). The people in my work laughed and said that app is not good, however few colleagues actually were interested in playing this one, saying it is unique one. So if you have time try it I would like to get a decent critique and maybe someone would like to create apps with me ! For us IT guys, it is extremely easy to work remotely Here is a link for an app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.concentrationapps.taper P.S. I am proficient in Java(working with Android Studio), improving my C# skills and I have 2+ years of Photoshop and Adobe Illustrator experience.

That is a real inspiration! I definitely agree with the fact that strong AI is totally possible. I bet that it will happen after 30-40 years, considering how fast information technology is advancing. A week ago Elon Musk wrote in his twitter that it will happen in 2030-2040. Also if someone is interested in pragmatic statistics, I recommend to check this new study. It is really comprehensive. https://arxiv.org/pdf/1705.08807.pdf

@Rocky Yes I quite got your ideas! I can definitely agree with a lot of it. I just feel more motivated to pursue my life purpose

Hello, as I am very passionate about computer programming and I have decided to major in programming, but I started to doubt that somehow computer sience is not higher consciousness activity... I am currently doing some game programming and a little of design in my cousin software company, but while searching material about spirituality and reading prominent people ideas about computer games I see that computer games are considered addictive and do lower consciousness... At the same time I know that programming is my strength, I have already got a decent knowledge in C#, Java, Javascript, C++. This is why I don't want to change my life purpose and career, but I do want to study highly conscious field. However I started to think that programming might not be highly conscious activity... This is why I think that Artificial intelligence and machine learning are related to consciousness. I made some research and currently have an opinion, that it will help to understand human mind more, and solve whole intelligence puzzle. Also advanced mathematics are required and that sounds highly conscious. I still haven't figured out a concrete plan for mastering those two domains, but I am certain that I will manage to do it. And I would be grateful if someone could share his insights about AI and whether it is highly conscious activity. I saw some similar topics in this forum, this is why I believe that someone will share his opinion , maybe give some advices

@Leo Gura Thanks for valid information! I really appreciate a straightforward and prominent way of answering complex questions! I have read ideas of other people in this chat and I agree with them that computer programming brings a flow state. I can't attain that state from any other activity, aside from coding, bodyweight exercising&tennis and meditation. I especially feel that state after 1-2 hours intense coding. And I searched that flow state might be a indicator of higher consciousness. Is it true? I am asking, because I have not heard that in your videos, maybe I missed something

To be honest, even if I might be a little biased speaking about video games(because I working in developing them, and it is part of my life purpose) the truth is that you can play video games and be mindful! It is just more difficult, but sometimes even creates a hightened sense of awareness. It happens to me, than I completely immerse in game, but at the same time I try to look at screen not from myself, but rather from somewhere else. Kinda difficult to explain I would suggest trying simple mobile games like the ones, Ketchapp are creating, they are good to begin

@blazed Can't agree on process of creating games, it seems that you lack basic knowledge of game development. Story of video games is not addictive itself, it just a story, illusion and fantasy. Only person might become addictive.Many friends of my watch variuos TV shows almost for 5 hours a day. It depends of person not the game itself. You just need to learn how to be aware while playing.

@blazed I appreciate your hobbies, I found some of them worthile, which I already have in my life. Actually I didn't find anything seriuos, which will probably generate success and let me have impact. I already socialize a lot, the colleague in my job are great, also I have a few friends in school, who will continue to pursue the same career. Speaking about addicte video game and the time person spends, I can definitely agree that I am against playing video games for many hours, due to many reasons. But that doesn't say that person should completely abandon video games. If person gets greativity, gets new programming knowledge it is especially valuable, even to the petty reasons like : employment and income. Do your research on the artificial intelligence and how much industries will be gone, because of that. But video games definitely are one of the greatest art forms, which involves motion, sound, graphics and desigg. It also requires highly logical mindset to create one. I bet that maybe 1 of 1000 people, would be able to create even a small game, because it is just too hard. People choose easy careers, which can be replaced anytime soon But I truly agree, that person should not spend a huge amount of time, playing games. I even advocate that By the way I did approximate canculations: about 15 hours I spend gaming, not more. So it is not fair to deny that video games are product of very smart and creative people, and it is person choice, whether he become addicted or not. P.S. speaking about hormones in the brain, there are many positive aspects to the brain. Just type in Google, find appropriate research and you might change your attitude. Deepack Chopra even acknowledged that and created his own spiritual games, which les people to enter flow states.

@blazed The hours I spend programming( I have already started to do it seriuosly, my cousin owns software company) are preciuos moments to me I feel aware and creativity just flows. I have already contemplated a lot about my future career and after many doubts I feel that programming/game development is one of the best choices. So, I can't agree with you I am going to try new video games and apreciate artworks and programming. P.S. I am still trying to be open minded and see my own biases. But I can't read any of yours 'better activities'. Maybe you can name a few? aside from exercising, eating well, meditating, contemplating and self inquiry, because I already do those.

@blazed I actually can't agree with you. When I am playing video games, I always look at the programming side of game, also I look at the design. As an aspiring game developer/programmer I only see a tremendous potential in video games industry. Advances in AR/VR will create even better, more comprehensive and difficult to create video games. Programming to me is highly conscious activity, which requires analytical mindset. Design also the same, even harder. Those two activities will not going to be replaced by artificial intelligence any time soon. And I would be happy to know those 'better' hobbies and activities, because the way I look at the world, many things seem damaging. Can you elaborate on that? For instance, all food industry seems unconscious. I carefully investigated all products and tried various food, the results were shocking. After 9 months of healthy lifestyle and intense exercising I almost vomited after eating some buns and yogurts... Even frozen vegetables can't match with raw diet. And in comparison food industry requires highly intelligent mindset and also many variuos skills, which result in harmful products. Looking at society objectively it is difficult to see highly conscious businesses, which involves analytical and creative process of thinking. And with my current understanding it would not be objective to deny video games, just because you feel addictive to them, which is not true. You can definetely play being aware and not addictive. It is just more difficult and requires practice, bet really possible. And I believe that such way of playing will only increase P.S. Speaking about productivity, I read about Elon Musk, one of the greatest scientist-entrepreneurs in our world. And he is very passionate video gamer, who even wanted to pursue career in that domain. Even today, he creates new products but also plays video games. So honesty you can be productive, while playing video games. In fact seen craativity will help a lot.

Hello again, as I am currently working on online game development ( similar to FarmVille, only online and simpler) I become more aware that storytelling plays a key role in games. And the question has arisen, whether enlightened person would find storytelling interesting and worthwhile? I mean as I am meditating more and more I see that storytelling is just merely an illusion... Despite that, I still view it as an conciuos asset, which involves a highly creative process. So I would like to hear your position even if you aren't enlightened, but had meditated long enough and are open minded Thanks a lot !

@Prabhaker Thanks, those are beautiful words... Don't know what to even say

@AlwaysBeNice Thats a really open minded perspective! @Martin123 Ok, I didn't know her. I will make me research.

@LifeLife Hmm, I actually think that you didin't contemplated about those 'artificial entertainment'... The fact that internet or others games exist the way they are mainly comes from the two reosons. The first is that speed of light is 3000000m/s. If it is different, the bits in video games would not create such beautiful graphics and the computer would not work fast at all. The second reaoson is the massive amount of silicon in Earth. It seems to me, that such massive amount exists on purpose, like it is meant to be used. Silicon enanbles to create bits, which operates in all computers. And it also very cheap and easy to acquire. That is why IT advanced really fast. This is my opinion, maybe you find something interesting to think about I almost personally never played video game more than 3 hours a day. It also seems insane to me. But those IT technologies are great if used correctly and with intention. Also IT makes me money and the way I see it, IT will continue to grow even faster until almost everything will be run on computer code.

@WelcometoReality wow, found it interesting! So it seems that video games have an adidtional benefit... I begin to notice that master Leo makes mistakes about some activities and careers..By contemplating a lot, I feel that I get a big picture understanding on variuos careers. Or maybe I just too young to grasp the truth.

Video games are one of the greatest human arts form. The characters in the game are constantly moving, just like in animation. But at the same time, person can decide for himself and that is the magic in that. Also the proccess of creating video games really requires high capability. The programming side of creating video game is one of the hardest in all programming field. So then I am playing I am also aware of programming and logic behind developing videos games. And as I contemplated a lot about it, I clearly see that video games are one of the greatest human inventions, which require artistic, but also logical skills. And it does not harm your body, like any processed foods or drugs, for example. Of course the reason behing playing is crucial But to me it is sad that many people don't realize how amazing are video games and even claim foolish ideas... Still I am happy, that video games industry hit 106,8 billion dollars mark this year and the growth is steadily increasing. As far as I am concerned, people will acknowledge video games even more, when machine learning and AI replace doctors, lawyers or others not creative disciplines.

Yeah, I definitely view artificial intelligence possible and it is already happening. The next year I will end my school and continue to major in computer science. I have already spend a lot of time in understanding machine learning and the possibilities are immersive there. So my current busineess ideas are related to higher consciousness mobile games. I think there are a lot of possibilities I believe that I will manage to create one maybe after 4-6 month. Now I just raising capital from web and mobile development And I would suggest to focus on creative mobile ideas, because those are currently on of course he hardest to replace. Of course, there are already some collaboration between computers and designers creating some new tools, but it is still a great niche for people.

Hello, I have been interested in ecology later on and the thing which I found interesting is the following one. Do GMO( genetically modified organisms) like plants or animals have altered consciousness, because of gene editing? I made some researches and found that it is harmful for nature to modify it in a such a way.However, biotechnologists claim that it is a new science and it is very useful and can solve a lot of problems. It would be great if someone would share his/her perspective on this topic. It could be shortened into this question also. Whether modifying nature is an higher consciousness science or not?