George Paul

Why don't you sit down, relax and watch Leo's videos when you take a break from theorizing ? * I know what neural networks are. That's why I am asking you a question which hopefully will diminish your enthusiasm about them. Here is the question: if the universe is a set of objects with neural networks, who has trained the neural networks ? It must be somebody or something from outside of the universe, since the universe is the neural network or the assembly of them. A neural network can't learn by itself. It has to be trained, it has to be told what is "good' and "bad". Otherwise there is no way for her to know, or better said to categorize different type of stimuli. So, once again, who is that who is presenting the neural networks with the right answers ? And more important, what are the stimuli presented to the receptors ? If all that it is , is neural net, what else could stimuli be ? Put another way: when your hand is burned by a hot object, how do you know it hurts ? Atoms, matter, whatever are you constituted of, does not know anything about "pain", it is just inert matter. Who told you that it hurts ?

Waves combine each other in two ways: addition when in phase and subtraction when out of phase. But now I see further: if reality is infinite than there must be an infinite number of instances of "God" , with an infinite pool of consciousnesses, from 0 to infinite, so that for any person in the world there is another one with complementary skills, knowledge, consciousness and so on, so that the sum of them all is God. So if your are very advanced in your path, more than certain there exist a person somewhere very low in his or her progress. That person might kill persons like you without much regret.

Why are you going at 8:00 to gym ? Don't you have a job ? Why the fuck don't you meditate ? You've been watching Leo for a year now and still don't meditate ? Start today with 20 minutes with the hardest posture you can do. Or even 10 minutes. And do it every day. You have the advantage of not being married and no kids. And you are very young, if you keep going your life will be fabulous by the time others will hardly wake up in the middle of nowhere. Buda can't be your real name, is it ? If it is, please change it if you wont meditate, you are a shame for that name. Get to work. Start today and report every single progress you are making right here. I keep an eye on you.

Hey Bizzare. I am very interested in 1+1=2. Specifically, why do you think that's a law and how would it explain the fabric of existence ? Just give a hint, I don't need a very accurate demonstration. I am asking this because in doing one of Leo's exercises, I found this formula as one of the beliefs I keep for granted. But when I thought better I realized that, actually, in the real world, we can't be sure that there is ANY situation in which 1+1=2. I mean physics says that's not the case, and I don't know much about non-duality or other direct experience methods, but I am pretty sure that they somehow reject that 1+1=2.

I You know what waves in the ocean do when they meet ? If in phase, they build a bigger wave, if they are out of phase they kill each other. Same with humans. That's my theory.

Strange, last day I was thinking exactly at the same concept: I am related to "God" like a wave is related to the ocean. That was in the first half of the day, the second half I tried to figure out why "Gods" kill each other.

Good topic. Lately I found out that an enlightenment experience can be obtained by consuming a drug called 5-MeO-DMT. That information can only enforce what Svartsaft is saying here.

Oh, yes, I have some idea of the illusory nature of the perceived reality. Maybe I don't know exactly at what extent, but I understand it logically. What I am questioning right now, is the fact that DMT experience MIGHT DEEPEN the illusion not releasing it. I agree that I don't have any idea, but are you certain that what you saw during DMT experience is a better agenda, is it closer to the objective reality ? I am asking that because I believe that the brain is very potent in presenting a huge pool of options when it comes to illusions.

AlwaysBeNice, I believe your map is wrong. I strongly suggest to look and pay attention to Leo's videos. Before that, it is better to give up any ideas about spirit and heaven and all that shit. Even forget about consciousness. I am not suggesting that because I believe my map is better than yours. I believe my map is wrong too. But I suggested that in order for us to be on the same page when talking about difficult subjects, to use the same concepts if not the same words.

That's interesting. Let's investigate a little the idea that if chemical works on the vehicle it means that it works on the spirit. In Leo's language, we translate that like this: if dmt can affect the brain, it can affect the higher SELF too. Let's see: the brain is the place where all our illusions take place. The ego is born there with all it's beliefs and models and memories, etc. Self is the boss of the brain. The higher SELF is not known by the brain. When DMT affects the brain it only affects the self. I cant's see any reason why it should affect the higher SELF, but that's because I know too little about the brain and drugs. One thing is for sure: if self was in a profound sleep until now, in an illusory realm of a wrong perceived reality, after DMT things only could go worse. That's my statement. I mean, I can't see why DMT should favor a better perception of reality (other than expanding a little bit the perceived frequency spectrum of auditive and visual phenomena, MAYBE ), on the first hand, an then, you might say: "but George" , DMT only affects the interpretation of the reality, your map, your agenda. Yes, agree, but I think that ANY ageda you have, any model any thought you might have, it is not REALITY, just another illusion. So, the DMT experience is just another ILLUSION, a nicer one, maybe. So if more and more people say that DMT experience (be it 5 fuckin MeO or not) IS enlightenment, than I only can conclude that ENLIGHTENMENT itself is just another illusion.

Would they realize that they spent 12 years on a mountain sitting still only to finally realize that they should have lived their life having real life fun all these 12 years ? Holly crap !! Imagine their faces at the end of those years when they realize that. So these guys have to realize two things: 1. Life has to be enjoyed right now 2. They spent 12 years not enjoying life

Hold on guys, I am a beginner and very confused by now. I saw Leo's video about 5-MEO-DMT and enlightenment. Now I have questions: 1. If DMT can get enlightenment for you, everything related to spirituality, starting with Buddha Gautama , passing through every major religion and ending with this site, I mean Actualized.org, everything is useless. Why would one embark on a trip that is so fucking hard like digging a hole in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, when you can get the same result in 20 minutes ? 2. If DMT experience is nothing else but a hallucination, and everybody says that it is actually an enlightenment, then why the fuck one would dig a hole in the middle of the ocean only to reach a state of hallucination. If it is true, if enlightenment is a hallucination, then it is the biggest illusion the brain can be tricked in, and doing that is very hard, Leo is right, it is very very hard to foul your brain to believe that ego is nothing and everything in the same time. in doing that, you compete with the strongest drug in the world, and you are doing that with your bare hands so it must be hard. Holly shit. As I read more posts in this topic, I only can conclude that enlightenment is a hallucination experience, something triggered by DMT molecule released in the brain by the pineal gland during some extraordinary circumstances, like death, or maybe ego death. Poor monks, I refer the monks that were doing meditation on a mountain for 12 years, 100 days per year. If they only knew that all about enlightenment was pure chemistry !

Actually, we can't be sure that matter does exist if it is not observed. Some say that it does not exist, others says that it exists in an uncertain state, but no one says anymore that MATTER DOES EXIST OBJECTIVELY WHEN IT IS NOT OBSERVED. I mean no one but those who are not aware of the scientific results from the last half of the last century. There were two ideas: Einstein's and Bohr's. Einstein died believing that matter exists objectively after a lifetime fight with Bohr. After many years from his dead, physics proved indubitably that matter doesn't have an objective existence. It exists only if and when it is observed. It is not that we cannot know because of technological restrictions. Search: Double Split Experiment, Bell inequality, Aspect experiment. In this light, what can we say about that hat or house you were looking at in your post ? Are they real 100% ? Leo and Co. say that what you see are actually waves in your brain, nothing to do with the actual house. On the other hand, physicist say that the house came into existence only when you decided to look at it. Sounds like crystal clear, right ?

Hey guys, I know that the quality of meditation equals PAIN x AWARENESS, but if I have the option to meditate by kneeling on a leather cushion very soft and comfy, would that be wrong ? I mean being capable to meditate a longer period of time is better or worse than meditating shorter but with pain in the feet ? Maybe the correct formula might be PAIN x TIME x AWARENESS.

Hi there whoever reads this. I have one simple question. When you try to be aware, to watch your thoughts, to dissolve your ego, to be mindfulness, WHO is that who is watching your thoughts ? For me there is no room for anyone else when I think. It looks like I am a secvential machine not parallel procesing one. I am not multitasking. So when I have a thought, I can't watch it, because no other thing can share the same processor time. And by the way, that thing who was supposed to watch me is still a THOUGHT, isn't it ? ( <= possible false supposition, ignore it) I can only detect thoughts only after they end their trip in my mind. I did my best to find in Leo's videos some clues about who is the watcher, but this is an subject rarely talked about or very vague or missing at all in some videos. He only says: watch your thoughts, not how to do that. Ok, at the rational level I have a clue, a model of the oneness, the one consciousness in which we are all parts, but I don't want to resort to rational thinking or modeling when I meditate or I try to be aware. I want to have a direct experience. If so, is it possible that at my very very very low level I could access a tiny tiy tiny part of THE consciousness to watch myself ? If I do that, I am not aware then about that. It is a way too big hat for my head. But this is only theories , blah blah, or yap-yap in Leo's own language. Is it normal what is happening to me ? Can you guys watch your thoughts during their manifestation ? <= Finally, this is the question i was talking about.

Forget about my first post. Just answer this: HOW DO YOU OBSERVE A THOUGHT THAT IS HAPPENING JUST RIGHT NOW ? ( I mean when you meditate or doing something , not literally now)

Well, I do my best to detach from symbols, Kserkkj, I apologize. For me this concept of "knowing of things" is a thing called awareness. Symbols play dirty with our mind .