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Thank you for sharing, pretty sure it's gonna get censored though.

@Rilles That's what I thought at the beginning aswell until I watched further and further and it became better and better. You'll have to pause the video an actually read the sources they present, all of them can be found on the internet you just have to look.

@Consept @LfcCharlie4 It's not based by right wing people, it's based by people who look past left and right. It argues to an extent against the fascist leftist agenda that is going on right now, but that's because it's part of the cabal. George Soros is funding all of the antifa crap, he is funding and organizing the demos and paying people for going to the demos. Some leftist even claim their money they didn't recieve from him after protest. Same for immigrant waves, it's all funded by this guy. The doc exposes how exactly the fraud is done right there. Exposing lies, telling the truth is no political agenda, all political agendas are trying to twist the truth, this is exposing the actual truth. Shock message for you guys, Trump is not a racist. Yes he is right wing, but he is not racist. Right=racist is simply a lie, you are brainwashed to believe it. Now are there more racist people in the right wing? Yes for sure. Doesn't make it right to lie and cause even bigger problems by electing the biggest liers, manipulators, satanists and pedos the history has ever seen. But that's just my opinion, I know you'll not agree with this. I'm not an american citizen so I guess I'm lucky not to have had the amount of propaganda brainwashing many americans had, but that the democrats are literally Satan in disguise is soo damn obvious, I'd rather take the obvious Luziferian Trump then. He did more good than most of your past presidents combined and still the witch hunt continues. Damn he killed the damn FED, don't you get how much of a historic moment that is? @Leo Gura Actually I am certain they are investigating it now that Trump is in charge. There are over 163000 sealed indictments incoming: https://qmap.pub/cases

@Consept Everything is possible. Maybe it's possible that your conception of right and left is totally scewd. Again had this in the other thread already, who the media claims to be right is not always right and if left is a swamp full of cabal, that's unfortunate. This is not about political agendas, this is about exposing what is true! Media is about political agendas, not so much the truth movement. We have this interesting case here in Germany, a famous singer Xavier Naidoo is actually publicly exposing this whole conspiracy and talking openly about it, the media absolutely slams him for this and he lost all of his reputation but people are still backing him because they know he is telling the truth. Why would he destroy his own career for the right wing agenda as you call it? He made statements that seem right to the media brainwashed people but are simply the truth of what's going on and in no way racist.

@Consept Watch the Documentary Fall Cabal part 1-10, then the big picture will become apparent to you. Wikileaks is the most solid evidence we have for all this stuff, but yeah it's not such much about Bill Gates. You think Bill Gates is such a big fish, think again. Yes he is big relatively speaking but there are much bigger ones.

@Consept Everything you will be presented with that is not mainstream is automatically not neutral for you, see the faulty logic here? Oh right, because forced vaccination is not telling them what's best for them.

@Consept Did you actually see Out of Shadows? There should be your answer to the question why there is no mainstream source backing this up. If there were a mainstream source backing this up he would have been charged already. We are talking about a corrupt system and you want us to dismantle this system by it's own resources, well that's hard.

@Leo Gura My argument was about actual investigations. I am well aware that mindless accusations are problematic, but if there is a basis like being able to investigate all of the visitors of Epsteins island, what speaks against such an investigation and how is it that it hasn't been done?

Because all investigative efforts are shut down/killed. That's why I would turn on the people who are shutting down the efforts and controlling the narrative until no one would dare to anymore and then we can get to actual truth. Epstein is a fact, that's not a theory at all.

Only together in unity we can stop that, how do we reach unity in this matter other than spreading the truth of what's going on? Who is going to prevent the corruption going on (police and lawyers included) other than the people who are awake? You are doing actually way more and better work than me by spreading consciousness to a ton of people sure, but I do the best I can do with the cards that are given to me.

Do I show love to a rapist or a mass murderer by letting him rape or murder? Or do I show love towards him including even love for his victims by stopping him? Kinda obvious to me. You are projecting like crazy, as if trying to spread awareness about something and stopping suffering from happening all over the world has anything to do with a lack of Love. On the contrary it's exactly what our Love lead us to! You are god, you are Bill Gates, then start waking yourself up, out of love. Wake Bill Gates up, wake the rapists up to the suffering they are causing.

@Consept That's absolutely correct, now consider how many fake stories the media fabricates. Now taking this same media as the only measure of trustworthy source doesn't seem like a good idea, not that this automatically makes other sources trustworthy, as always this principle should be applied to all sources, no matter how popular or how out of scope. I'm actually really seeing this a lot with some people I've kept track with on my social media, that they do post stories which are actually fake ones, sometimes they will acknowledge that though and personally for me, this doesn't mean that everything they share is fake, there indeed is this kinda bias where they start looking into a story and share every single bit of information related to this, now is this an issue? surely it is. But a way bigger issue for me would be an instance that can censor absolutely anything they wish to just for it being controversial. This is dictatorship. I would rather have fake stories go around than everything that's not mainstream being censored, the danger in that is very obvious and to a high degree already realized. How many people got killed, discredited, lost their jobs and existence for trying to uncover such things. how bad is the impact of fake stories in comparison? Not even mentioning the actual damage being done by the things being covered up, just the process of covering up and getting rid of such people is already causing more damage. So my point is, you are stuck at a very unimportant issue in my mind, I absolutely agree with you that it is the case, but in my mind we have bigger problems and this problem would be a necessary side effect of a much better world. By fighting the shadows of the new you are sticking to way bigger shadows of the status quo. We as actualizers are probably all mostly aware that there is no such thing as a perfect system, of course there will always be some problems and they are not solved by sticking to something that's even worse, they are solved by embracing the new and eventually improving upon it when you manage to outgrow it. Conspiracy theories are too wast for people to limit themselves to debunking silly debunking articles that completely miss the point. I already pointed it out to you twice, with the last post from Snopes too. The debunking might be correct oftentimes but it completely misses 99% of the evidence and is so focused on the details of a single argument that's unimportant. This is the strategy I see with debunking mostly. It's exactly the problem I see, people gather tons of evidence and they come along pick out a single thing that's incorrect and now claim your whole story is false. Imagine you have a certain theory about something, I google up that theory and pick out a random piece of evidence for that theory and debunk it, it's as if I put words into your mouth that you never spoke and pretend to have disproven your whole theory. Pick out the most stupid facts or fabricate them yourself only to disprove them after, anyone can do that. Especially when you twist the whole thing and the argument isn't even about the actual content of the theory but just the origin of the story being fake. Also you have to always consider blackmail and corruption playing a big role in the whole thing, since we are talking about the most powerful and influential and evil people on the planet basically. That's also how they state it in the out of shadows doku, they put you into compromising situations to then be able to blackmail you, once you are in even unwillingly, you'll not be able to get out of this alive, free or with your reputation intact. As for research and studies, when does money not play a major role in all of this? As long as money is not a concern I am very sceptical about any studies and research, the more money flew into it, the more powerful the beneficiaries the more I doubt it to be honest. Indeed, you got that right it being an anti-vaccine argument. I never said though that it's the vaccines in of themselves that are the problem. Can there be actually safe vaccines? Do maybe some few instances of safe vaccines already exist? I have no clue to be honest. This is absolutely not the point, it potentially could be a point but only after you can really be sure that it has been tested independently of finance and exterior influences. I also consider it to be highly likely that there wouldn't actually be much of sickness at all if all those dark influences weren't there in the first place. Imagine a world without damn poison in every corner, a world without the big pharma. A world with actual medicine not medicine that's based on profit. Are vaccines even needed at all in this world? I don't know, but it's a valid question to ask for sure. Do you know how much of all known illnesses is actually of psychological nature in the first place? Now we could ask the question why does our psychology lead to sickness? Maybe we live in a system that is making us sick? A sick society. There is also another factor at play here that many people overlook. Sickness is there for a reason, our immune system is very very remarkable. Imagine you have been vaccinated every single year for the flu and were "lucky" enough to not get sick. Getting sick is the best training for the immune system there is, now imagine your immune system always had very little work because it was infected by these mild versions of the illnesses that are inside the vaccine, now after lets say 10-20 years you get a seriously bad flu and your body is not able to handle it at all, so that you might even die in certain circumstances. I would rather get sick and train my immune system properly. This is something I noticed with different antibiotics and stuff. I got sick so often in the past but then I just stopped taking all that stuff, let my immune system do all the work and strangely I've rarely gotten sick since, of course this is in no way a study, just a single personal case, but that's kinda obvious for me to work this way. Where is the limit for the strength of the human immune system? I would say it's in the poison that's all around us, including vaccines. If a child never gets sick, its immune system will be very poor. Now 350,000 or maybe a few million together with all the other illnesses is a very small number, if you consider how much damage could actually be caused by vaccines, not to mention the potential deaths it causes from people not having a well trained immune system. Vaccines will never be able to keep up with a decent diet, exercise and a healthy psyche. Vaccines are always very specific, the immune system works for basically everything. People dying from someone foreign bringing a new illness is nothing surprising, that's something that happened many times in the past but with globalization it's mostly a thing of the past. Now it's funny how him being financed by families who were damaged by vaccines is questioned. Who else would be funding him? Big pharma? I would consider the big players not the small fish to be the fraud here. "Families whose children became autistic supposedly due to vaccines are paying for doctored studies". Hope you see how silly this actually sounds. If a few families had enough influence to do so, what the hell do you think is really going on with the big fish with serious money and power? I didn't claim truth on these things, I specifically wrote that these are the crazier things which are hard to prove. Things I consider to be a possibility lets say. How is accepting the mainstream narrative because it fits your beliefs different from confirmation bias? Or maybe we take vaccines out of the picture and the life expectancy is solved in all the other ways I suggested above. I Really appreciate the more objective talk than I am used to. I see that you actually are considering what I'm saying, while in most of such discussions people seem absolutely blind to 90% of what you write, exactly as the debunkers, they'll focus on a tiny aspect of your argument that they find easiest to argue against and just leave out all the rest.

@WHO IS Keep in mind that being sane or insane is always relative to this specific reality.

@Consept They are debunking what exactly? They are debunking that a message from some random guy that was spread over the internet was actually written by him, they are not debunking whether the message was correct or not, not to mention that they were asking the institute he was working in not even the guy himself, obviously that could have easily been a cover up and even if it wasn't I again don't see how this claim was of any significance what so ever, didn't even know about this to be honest. That Bill Gates is in the vaccination industry is well documented and there is enough video of evidence of him promoting vaccines, so the point here is not digging into Bill Gates himself but into the dangers of vaccines and so you'll establish the link of the negative effects of vaccines which get burried on a regular basis and normally don't make it into the mainstream obviously, a lot of studies are being doctored and that is very obvious if you dig into that, you should actually watch the vaxxed movie couldn't be more obvious. Now if you know that vaccines are dangerous in many ways and see that Bill Gates is one of the main financial investors and promoters of this stuff, do I need to say more? Don't forget your critical thinking when reading such debunking articles. From what I've heard the main critique of vaccines is not about killing people just like that, don't know why you think that would be the case. It's about vaccines making people impotent. Also hearing a lot of autism in relation to vaccines and many people having really bad side effects. Some stories of people being healthy all their life and getting sick only just after getting vaccinated. Just see the damn content in vaccines there is damn mercury in the vaccines which the body will never be able to get rid of, do you seriously think this has no effect on the body?! The craziest theories I've heard and honestly don't see a way of checking for their validity, is that the metals put into your body by vaccines can actually kind of implode due to 5G frequencies and so cause the terrific "corona" symptoms we see in some people just dropping dead in the middle of the street. Test runs for this were supposedly with birds, that's why there were so many birds dying recently having very similar lungs damage as severe corona patients. So by having a monopoly on vaccines Bill Gates would potentially have the power of killing anybody he wanted to when also using 5G technology, also people speculate about RFID chips being in vaccines which would give them additional control over the population. http://www.hitachi.com/New/cnews/030902.html "If there was better healthcare and parents felt more secure that they wont have their kids die its likely they would have less children" I've seen Bill Gates make this claim multiple times, is it that they would have less children because of their health or less children because their measure of being healthy in theirs studies was being vaccinated(vaccinated=healthy) and so people vaccinated were impotent and couldn't have any children anymore. That people in the west have less children has many factors, now saying that it's mainly due to their health would also be a bold claim. Overpopulation being a serious problem is very real indeed, but this doesn't justify a few people in the elite using such shady strategies to depopulate, also considering other conspiracy theories, overpopulation might be much less of a problem with many technologies that are being kept from the public. Just as an example google TR3-B, these damn things have been top secret for years and are working with damn anti-gravitation technology and there are so many people who write they've seen them with their own eyes, they are 100% silent and fast as heck in any direction. The witness accounts go back to at least 1996. The technology that has been hidden from us could save many of the worlds greatest problems. You really think there is no cure for cancer? Think again. But of course you can take most of these things with a grain of salt, since you haven't been digging as deep as I did. You have no idea how deep the rabbit hole on Bill Gates goes. But he is only one of many. The most powerful widely known families or people responsible for a lot of these shady happenings are George Soros, Rockefeller and the Rothschilds. While the Rothschilds are pretty much screwd now since Trump has basically fused the FED with the treasury. We are in the middle of WW3 right now and we don't even see it. One side is pushing forced vaccinations, 5G and many controlling instances, while the other side is taking their power busting pedophile rings, cartels, basically attacking all of their empire, I honestly don't understand how so many people are blind to what's happening around the world at the moment.

These symbols are in my opinion most interesting not for finding such people or organizations in the first place but when you see them in association with someone who was already suspected by other means. For example you find these symbols all over child support organizations especially those with connections to the Clintons. Also interesting the Pope:

@Consept It's true that oftentimes people share such fake stuff and some really do claim it to be 100% true which is a problem for sure. I don't see a problem with sharing such material if you don't claim it to be 100% true, I would see it more as a kind of community mind storming effort, because there is so much material and you can't possible check everything youself, you could share it in a community and other people might check for its validity or if it's even a possibility. But this problem is honestly not really just with conspiracy theorists but with people in general, even mainstream news is sharing a lot of fake and even fabricated stuff... So this argument actually would go for both sides. And keep in mind this can always be used as a strategy to further discredit the actual truth seekers by deceiving forces. Anybody can spread such rumors it doesn't have to be real truth seekers. For me it's just logical that this is happening, when you see that the mainstream isn't being truthful and transparent with the situation people are going to grasp at every single bit of information they can receive outside of this narrative, people oftentimes rely on having someone they can trust and now they need to decide do I trust the fake media or do I trust the truth seekers, now the question is how do you distinguish a truth seeker from a shill.

I also really feel like people are not careful enough with the distinction here. According to conspiracy theories the term conspiracy theory was invented by the CIA, make of that whatever you want, just wanted to mention it. Just notice how you create this label conspiracy theory and now can just put anything you wish to under that label, nobody is gonna check for evidence nobody is gonna oppose it because he is going to get discredited and ridiculed. It's become one of the main strategies of authorities nowadays to use such labels in order to shut people up. Racism or sexism is another good example for this, not that there is no factual base for racist or sexist people to exist, but somehow the media manages to create deep deception on these topics and label whatever they want in such terms without really going into any evidence and facts what so ever or just taking doctored facts at best in some cases. So this is basically the same. Do sexists exist? Yes, but not everyone who is termed a sexist really is sexist, same goes for racism and same goes for conspiracy theories as well. What gives you the right to discredit and ridicule people if you don't even know what they know? What if you dug that deep into these topics and had the same information as they do? It's simply a weaponized use of prejudice to shut up anything that's opposing the narrative of whoever is benefiting from this system the most. What is this discussion even about, believing in conspiracy theories or not? What a silly question if you think it through really. Many "conspiracy theories" have been proven to actually be FACT and who was it that decided it wasn't fact?! Ask yourself these questions and you actually might wake up to a whole new world of conspiracy facts. I would encourage to actually keep this term conspiracy theory out of your belief system and just research for yourself what is true and what is not true if you even care about it. Obviously not everyone cares to dig deep into such things and that's totally fine, but why would such a person even be allowed to discredit others who actually do? What actually should be censored are people who oppose free speech and research on such topics.

@Consept It's just an idea that being a conspiracy theorist keeps you from doing inner work, it's simply not true. There are phases where the inner world is more important and there are phases in life where the exterior world has to be integrated and there will always be a kind of balancing act between the two. Fighting for a better world is exactly what we are doing. These people who are behind all those conspiracies are the reason for most of our misery and I am not saying that you can't be happy with life as it is, you can always be happy no matter what circumstances by doing inner work but you can also start spreading awareness of what's really going on and eventually free the world from this modern slavery which then will lead the the so called golden age... But it's easy to miss this point, without looking deeply into this darkness in our humanity how are we supposed to bring light into the world? Sure you can do inner work and illuminate your inner shadows but what's next, spreading the knowledge to others and the more freedom there is in the world the more people are going to be illuminated.

@Consept Are you serious about this snopes article? That's really the problem with people who are much against conspiracy theories. There are all kinds of nuts people out there obviously and just because a few people jumped to conclusions and believe in him saying a specific quote even though he didn't is now supposed to be a debunk of that theory? That's complete bullshit. Anyone can make claims that can be disproven, Snopes is actually known to be one of the only so called "fact checkers" who censors all around the net, censors for who with what authority? How do they decide what a conspiracy is, who gave them the right to do so? Everyone can fabricate a claim that's simply false and easy to disprove and as a result discredits the theory the claim was pointing to. Same with every conspiracy, just because some people speculate doesn't mean they claim 100% truth on everything and it doesn't mean that you disproving one of many possibilities of the theory makes the bigger picture theory invalid. Just imagine there are dozens or hundreds of points of evidence some stronger then others and you don't even necessarily know about all of them personally and someone comes along and disproves a single of of these points of evidence that you don't even know and tells you your theory is wrong because of that. It's like, what mate? I don't even know what you are talking about.

@Chives99 And what's the damage being done by people being sheep and getting sick or even killed by 5G? The people obviously don't want this damn 5G, nobody asked about it, so many people warned about it and yet they just forcefully build that shit.

@Commodent What is more likely, something that 1 or 2 coincidences point to or something that dozens or hundreds or even thousands of coincidences point to? through every further coincidence it becomes more and more likely until it becomes nearly impossible not to be so. What do you base it on him being in the realm of lower astral realities, maybe the realms he is moving in are actually higher than the realms media brainwashed people move in?? I rarely ever hear of consciousness work in media outlets, maybe yet another coincidence.

@Commodent Maybe these people have more of a reason to believe what they believe than you think and are saving your asses while you are on here discrediting them? Just food for thought, not claiming anything. A collapse would be great, basically it's like an ego death, it's needed to emerge in a more beautiful and brighter light than ever before. People don't know anymore what freedom actually means.

I don't really care about being attacked honestly, I'm just gonna speak what I think, if you wanna censor me, do that. And first of all I wanna say that I don't believe in every conspiracy theory but many if not most have some truth too it, some more than others and if you really do enough research you realize that it's all interconnected. Of course I understand that you doubt many conspiracy theories because they don't make sense if you don't have the context with other conspiracy theories, it's a holistic picture that you need to develop in order to even understand conspiracy theorists and yes some of them are totally nuts for sure, but others are just fighters for freedom! Just like many spiritual people. In other words how many coincidences need to happen until something is mathematically nearly impossible? And that's what conspiracy theorists realize, it's not that they find solid proof because solid proof would require extreme measures. Do you know how Epstein got busted? A drone flew to his Pedo Island and filmed what was happening, what do you think people who were saying all this before were called? Right, conspiracy theorists and what motivated that dude to film with a drone? Exactly that. Without that we would have never known. We NEED to investigate such things! Don't you notice how the ridicule of conspiracy theories is just a defense strategy to discredit honest investigators? Do you have any idea how many people already died because they wanted to expose such things and do you have any idea how many people actually exposed such things and are not even being believed? Imagine you would be ritually abused as a child and nobody would believe you and call you crazy and a conspiracy theorists. How many more famous people need to get busted for people to get into their heads what's going on?! Epsteins Pedo island did obviously exist and is not a conspiracy and soo many people in high places have been there. Including Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg and many more... What do you think they've been there for? Why is it so rarely covered by the media when pedophile rings get busted? Who of you seriously still believes that 9/11 wasn't an inside job? So now what's the conclusion you take out of it being an inside job? There are people who are powerful and evil enough to do such things and they even have the power to bury anyone who tries to expose the truth, they've buried it for almost 20 years now although it's obvious as heck and like 50% of people or even more already know and still just now proper disclosure seems to pop up and yet it's officially still a conspiracy theory which is absolutely ludicrous. People expect us to give them all the facts without doing research for themselves, that's really the big problem with all this. We are working with exactly the principle of how many coincidences until something is mathematically impossible, so how are we supposed to convey it to you with facts? This is way to complex and too big to really put together in a coherent picture, there are so many topics that are interconnected and have to be studied independently of each other and then if you dig deep enough into all of them a coherent picture starts to emerge. Like spiritual work this is more of a matter of experiencing for yourself rather than having it spoonfed to you.