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@Preety_India Did you know that we can feed at least twice as many people if everyone was vegan? Most of resources are spent on farming animals, especially water is wasted to a large extent. You can easily ingest all nutrients that are necessary without any animals sources. Our crops are so poisoned and of such bad quality through all these chemicals and whatnot that some nutrients are missing indeed which have been there in the past, the only thing that's of real concern is B12 which is actually artificially fed to animals, so might as well artificially ingest it yourself. Not to mention the antibiotics they are given, it's very unhealthy and actually causes stronger and stronger bacteria, even heard that it's worse than the hospital bacteria problem. They were healthier because they weren't poisoned by their environment and actually did something to get their food. Now a question to you, what was their level of consciousness and development? I actually include insects in this debate. Although I guess with eating insects we could potentially feed even more people. Data on that would be interesting too.

@Preety_India How would you feel if some type of aliens came down to earth and said even humans are eating animals, lets eat them? How do you justify causing suffering knowingly?

Leave the poor insects alone.

@Carl-Richard I don't really want to invest time into looking for such examples, but from what I've seen he actually knows these values fairly deeply. In the end we can't really judge this just by his outward appearence and by seeing a tiny fragment of his material, unless you've seen a large portion I would abstain from harsh judgement. I am not seeing he is pure yellow, nobody is pure anything I pretty sure. But he has a fairly big chunk of yellow in my POV, but I don't wanna claim any absolute truth on this. Unless we really know him, we can only speculate.

@Carl-Richard Yes, that's true. The problem is just that they simply follow values not because they have grown into that level but because they put them on as ideology to fit into their environment, they don't know what these values really mean. Wouldn't you agree with me that it's the vast minority of people who really understand such values to their depths? This guy is simply revealing their hypocrisy, this guy is in actuality closer to the values most of these people claim to stand for.

Sounds like a conspiracy if you ask me.

In fact you can. That's exactly what he is doing with many of the people he talks to. Shocking news for you, being an SJW doesn't make you green, many of them are blue in fact.

@Consept Why are you so convinced that it's misinformation? Maybe he is spreading the truth? I see that he is asking valid question. Maybe he does jump to conclusions too fast but can you really judge him that easily without really knowing what he knows? This is a natural reaction against media that doesn't ask these questions.

@Consept Mainstream media is perfect for the purpose it was made for. It's the most brilliant and perfect weapon there has ever been on earth.

@Consept You misinterpreted that. They have to distance themselves from direct accusations. They had it up on amazon prime but it was removed anyway.

@Consept I absolutely do get this. Why are you demonizing it? How are they supposed to spread the message to people fighting sensational media? People who are aware of holding an objective view aren't influenced by that. They are fighting the devil with his own weapons. Is it stage turquoise enlightened stuff? No. Again, you expect perfection. Let the masses wake up and then spread the message of god, then spread love. The media will never allow love to happen.

Couldn't agree more.

@Consept She was not specifically talking about Alex Jones, but about everyone who dares to ask those questions. You are expecting perfection from people, everyone has their faults and at least some are honest about it. People who aren't honest about their flaws and let the media cover up their flaws by not covering it at all are the problem here. They let Alex Jones be the biggest one out there with these theories because it's easy to paint him as a dumbass. People who are not as easy to paint as a dumbass will never get the platform. Find the ones you cannot criticize and you've found the ones in control - Voltaire

Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai

@Consept If it's against the media its a conspiracy!

@gswva Something that caught my eye is that you seem to assume it's all coming from an emotional place. It did in the beginning stages yes, it was very emotional and painful but this was actually like 8 years ago that I woke up for the first time with research into 9/11. Then I kinda dismissed it for a long time, because there was nothing I could really do about it anyway and the Wikileaks stuff came up with Pizzagate and that's when I couldn't simply ignore their deeds anymore. It was painful to know all this but along with my spiritual path I integrated this and there isn't really much of emotions involved here to be honest. Your first question is kinda hard to answer, because the sources are sometimes simply nothing that's dependant on trust. Wikileaks leaked podesta e-mails for example, like what is not to trust about it? It's simply there. Then combine that with all weird social media posts surrounding that pizza place and art collection and his connection to all these people of the establishment who are visiting this pizza place all the time, the owner officially became one of the worlds most influential men in a very short period time and he is just a damn pizza place owner. This is not about sources, this is just straight facts. The rabbit hole goes way deeper but lets not dive into that. These are just straight facts, not making any claims here, make of it what you will. So the trust of sources mostly comes up when we talk about Whistleblowers and there are soo many... What is the point in doing that if not telling the truth? They put themselves out there and speak out about all this stuff, lose all their reputation for it and are even killed for it sometimes. You automatically assume that I believe in this lizard stuff. I haven't seen enough evidence support this claim and so I do stay open for it to be the case but this is one of the things I rather keep out of the big picture understanding I develop about those things. No, if media revealed extraterrestrial life it wouldn't change much and is not really of much importance to me, like what does it matter? Obviously there is extraterrestrial life somewhere out there and that's great, what does the media change about that fact? Now if there are implications of secret technology being revealed that's another topic, that would be obviously very useful for the whole of mankind, at least if it weren't dangerous like nukes. Edit: after further consideration I guess religions would go nuts, that would be interesting. There are way more important topics for our survival at hand than extraterrestrial life though. Now please don't start demonizing survival and making it a relative issue, I am aware of all this, yet this doesn't mean I will not try to stop suffering and try to be compassionate towards humankind. What we want is spiritual growth for mankind, don't we all? How are we gonna reach that with an agenda to keep exactly this from happening on a large scale? We are literally being poisoned in so many ways. even Leo talks about the big pharma, now how does the pharma being so corrupt fit into the big picture? All these corporations gaining more money and power by the day. Is it really just the money they are after? Even if it were just money they are after, establishing control in the shadiest ways is still the way to maximize their profit and power. Keeping us from using our spiritual juice so to speak is the way to stay superior to us. No we don't live in hell, we are living in the best time there could be, when people start to wake up and take back their power. Hell is created in your mind, there is no matter what's going on out there. Yet you can make heaven easily accessible to everyone out of love. Just because you dig into such topics doesn't mean that you won't develop a healthy perspective on them that keeps you out of hell. Of course spiritual work is and always will be central. You think I hang out on the research for conspiracy material or whatever all day? That's just something you do now and then for a few hours and sometimes leave it be for months or even years. Although with the current situation it's a little different, things are too interesting right now in the positive sense actually not to follow what's happening^^ I don't have any fear of not knowing. The only thing I know within the realms of duality is that I will never know everything, because everything is infinite. So I will always have a great deal of not knowing. Emotional states are the compass to truth, but only when used wisely. It is god acting indeed and people stopping all that will also be god acting, everything is god acting by definition. No, I mean the individual is not able to grow into infinity without his ego, that's why the ego is here. The growth process is eternal. Someone whose ego is dead will cease growing, that's why physical death is here to get rid of those not able to grow further.

@Moreira It's useless to argue about it with them, if you see it from their POV you'll realize that they simply are not ready to go that step as to question everything they know about the world and even if they did they would still cling to hard evidence, to popular science which is paradoxically not really fitting the theme of this forum, but I get it. Just let it go. At the same time it's not like they are completely wrong about this. We should of course be careful about conspiracy theories, I am always skeptical at first before I dive deeper and deeper. Some turn out to not really be supported even by circumstantial evidence etc. and then I simply drop it, mostly keep an open mind to future evidence but just don't waste my time. Others turn out to be covered by so much evidence that you literally wanna facepalm at people still not being in the know. But it will all be known sooner rather then later.

That sounds like a big shadow to me. It's true that ordinary love is futile, yet its purpose is to actually teach us true love. Light doesn't come from nothing, dark is turned into light. imagine it like a training, you practice lower tier love in order to learn higher tier love. Just understanding this and pretending as if you already achieved higher tier love isn't going to get you there.

@Carl-Richard Would like to see you having a discussion with him then on how he is a blue ideologue, pretty sure wouldn't go your way.

No longer present in the sky, does that make a difference? When they used to be present in the sky yet we were seeing them with a huge delay because the light travels only so fast. I don't see a reason why we couldn't invent a new astrology with current constellations and they could work just as fine for the future. You are missing the point here, the point is we and the stars are not separate, time won't change this fact. Do the stars influence us or do we influence them? From what I've seen astrology actually does take the current constellations into account as well. Astrology works better the deeper you dive into it, that's where the misconceptions come from on this topic. People go through it in a very shallow way and if it doesn't fit or doesn't come true they think astrology is bs. We have to always keep in mind, astrology is the fundamental fabric of nature in play and we are merely translating with our filters and limitations, it's not astrology which is faulty, it's our limitations on how we interact with it.

@Kdicious That's a great step, don't let this keep you from reducing suffering and living compassionately.

@Carl-Richard In a theoretical sense you might have a point, but in practice you make yellow to be something outworldly which it is not. Yellow interacting with the world that's below automatically steps down, which doesn't mean you should stop discussion altogether. Yellow is finding systems which are the most beneficial for everyone involved in a systemic way basically. Sometimes it needs to downgrade because the system spoken off is lower tier, yet there is nothing wrong with talking about lower tier systems.

This is only the case for sex lacking the holistic view. Real sex is not dependent on climax, you'll feel even more satisfied then the climax ever could make you, it's just a piece of work to get to that point. And of course the traditional climax is not suddenly vanished, it can always be optional. Yes this is true, you could argue that putting the work to make it work in the first place is a part of the chemistry and compatibility. That's nothing I would argue against, can only agree with this. But don't take it as an excuse to underestimate what can be achieved, because if you have the perfect partner right in front of you and would dismiss him before even trying and doing the work, then yeah, i guess you get my point.

@Preety_India I figured that you don't dismiss it, that was apparent from your post. Just shared my view on the matter and what most people are hung up on in my view. And as I said I completely agree with that. Although I also see a lot of expectations that you seem to have. Like the expectation to climax at the same time is something I don't really understand. After all real sex shouldn't be focused on the climax either way, but I guess that's just my view and also it's not as if everyone only could climax once. I understand when that's a desire to climax at the same time and to do that from time to time or even always if both want to is fine, yet the expectation is what kinda seems a little backwards to me. Why do you expect someone to always be able to keep going? I wouldn't expect that from my girlfriend. I guess it's a matter of preference as well, but I wanted to point that out. I understand that it would be a problem if you are never really satisfied, as you describe it with your ex. Yes I see how that's a reason to end it. But there is nuance to this stuff as I pointed out above. Keep in mind you not being able to enjoy it is simply a matter of your own psychology. There would have been ways to make it enjoyable for you two possibly without you even knowing. Or maybe not, of course that's also a possibility that the chemistry was just too far apart.

@Preety_India This is a very sophisticated view of that matter. Absolutely agree with you and can confirm from my own experience. There are very few people who see the other dimensions and shapes sex can take, this is the actual problem here. They are stuck at low conscious body focused sex, that's why the womens looks are primary. Yet completely dismissing looks is the wrong way either from my view, since it plays a role in chemistry as well. You may have different dimensions of sex and all are higher then the simple bodily sex, yet being focused at only one dimension is always a big limitation. The holistic picture is to combine all dimensions body included. The question then becomes is a sexy body really what serves you the most in this holistic sex? Maybe a body that will make you less horny would be the balanced approach. One point of yours I don't fully agree with. When I used to watch porn my attraction towards female bodies became way more broad. Because to some degree I've still been discovering my own sexuality through porn, did it corrupt my views on sexuality and the female bodies? Yes for sure, but it's not in matter of being focused on a single body type but focused on the quality of different body types. But I can of course just speak from my experience here.