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@Meta-Man As is everything and yet there are distinctions if you view it from a limited consciouness perspective and there is an infinite amount of these limited consciouness perspectives as well. Of course they break down when viewed from the god consciousness perspective, it doesn't change the fact that they can be viewed experienced and work according to their own laws.

@Meta-Man Do they? Aren't they just a construct of duality and just one half of a single polarity within duality?

@RendHeaven Read again, I pointed out many names. There is a shit ton of people involved. I'm not going into detail because I'm aware that this is not welcome on this forum. And yes, you don't have to know "them" all by name to know what "they" are doing. Do you know every single politician by name? Do you know every single CEO of the biggest corporations by name? I would even guess you know very few of those and for good reason. It's fkn irrelevant dude.

@Leo Gura When we talk about the USA: Those who are in charge of the CIA for one. Those who are in charge of Hollywood also. I'm not pretending as if I know them all by name, but it's obvious that there are certain agendas being pushed, there is very strong evidence of it being the case and many whistleblowers pointing towards this. I'm also not saying that they control absolutely everything about media, rather I am saying they dictate certain things that have to be shown or said and certain outcomes that need to happen on these programs. It's all part of psychological warfare that's not even a secret, there are agencies who are specialized on just that. @Jj13 We are talking about the people here, as in the masses of people and the masses of people are in fact watching a whole lot of TV. It's very interesting for example if I as a german watch american TV, I immediately see how much more obvious the programming is. Look up the boiling frog fable, that's exactly what is at play here, people are getting so desensitized to the propaganda and agendas that they plain and simply overlook them, if they were to push these agendas from the get go people would wake up pretty fast, but if they take it slow it's not easy for the masses to react. That's what's happening right now with Corona, the fake media is changing directions so much and seems so confused and not in charge that more and more people are waking up to this reality, Trump is really brilliant in this regard. If you never watched TV you won't fit into society for the most part, because you didn't have their programming, but of course you can work on fitting in. Even education is pushing certain agendas not only TV. Why do you assume that this is the case? Wouldn't it be far more likely to assume the opposite? Since the people who are most powerful got there for a reason, surely not without having a plan. Or maybe they have seen that the people are not going to live with this and so they gave them the illusion of freedom, they gave the people legalized slavery which we think is freedom. They are trying to keep the people divided, by creating the dispute between left/right, male/female, racial conflict, conflict of classes, transgender, homosexuals, feminism, religions all the kind of stuff being pushed nowadays even normalizing pedophilia. Who is it that is pushing these conflicts? It's not the people, it's the platforms they are shared on, the media, education... They try to keep the people divided so the people won't unite for their freedom, for what actually matters. They create these conflicts. All the wars, were instigated by them. Pharma is poisoning us, our food is poisoned, chemtrails(if you wanna believe that), flouride in water, vaccines...we are so concerned with our health nowadays and so busy with work that we don't have the time to question anything(the masses at least). Our spiritual capabilities are greatly diminished by all these factors, we are just mind driven, basically humanity is starting to lean more towards autism and the mind is easy to fool. Immigrant waves were for the most part instigated by George Soros, Antifa is organized by George Soros. Wake up... Bill Gates trying to vaccinate the whole world, Rothschilds power as global bankers(diminished by Trump now), Rockefellers power in Pharma and Education system.

@Jj13 What you propose here is not actually a systems perspective. The systems perspective would be to ask the question why are people unconscious, why do they support such exploitation and poison? They look at TV all day and are programmed by it, that's one among many other things. The TV program for the most part is not really decided by the people but by very few individuals, at least the core of the message being spread. Mass programming of people, by few individuals.

@Leo Gura And then film it!

The people are the system but not in charge of the system, of course from a non-dual perspective they are but I don't see anything wrong about discussions in terms of duality.

This is exactly what I said. The system is abusing the people, not the other way around. Seems like you don't get my point. I'm saying people who contribute should earn more and people who don't should get more then enough either. I am not saying they should receive the same amount.

@Nak Khid That's true, would be a lie to say I don't do it exactly like this as well. I just try to stay open minded or somewhat agnostic in those cases, that's all.

@Natasha That's a good move then. For the sake inner peace that's a well worth trade off.

@Nak Khid Just because the whole picture is not known doesn't mean we can't decipher fragments of the whole which are true. Don't you see that this is literally just a cop out what you are saying here? We care about uncovering what's really going on and we do it with the cards that are given to us. You are creating these camps of conspiracy theorists vs non-conspiracy theorists and assume because some of these conspiracy theorists merely theorize and value their theory over another that non-conspiracy theorists must be superior in some way. Why would someone having false assumptions after their research keep you from doing your own research and form your own opinion instead of dismissing everything just because someone came up with something that according to your world view must be false. Sometimes you just have to live with the fact that you don't know everything, in fact you can't ever know everything unless you are physically dead. Of course we as "conspiracy theorists" don't know every single detail about what's really going on, we are just uncovering what we can and some of us build their own models of the bigger picture, these models are at least better than having zero and just giving up. Do you think scientific models are perfect? They are being refined as we speak, although it takes a long time in some cases and eventually new models emerge which replace the old. You are proposing to just let them do to the people what ever they like because you can't possibly find out the whole truth at once.

@LfcCharlie4 Why should the welfare be lowered just because some working people can't afford the same quality of life? From how I see it, the working people should get more and welfare should stay the same or relatively speaking more too. People who do literally nothing but earn money off of suffering shouldn't be paid millions and billions like they do now.

@Natasha Yes

I would consider their point of view in an unbiased way.

There are many kinds of intelligence and it's not easy to define them all. Different video games train different kinds of intelligence, that's for sure. I would say video games play way more into fluid intelligence while books are helping to develop crystallized intelligence. Using these terms just for explanatory sake because personally I think intelligence goes even deeper and is way more complicated then this.

@GodDesireOnlyLove Says the ego.

@Jahmaine Beautifully said.

@AlphaAbundance Sure as soon as you present me someone who knows everything that's happening (just on earth) we can keep talking about what infinity actually means.

@AlphaAbundance That's the problem dude. Reality being infinite makes it impossible for a being with limitations to grasp it all. That's why we'll have to die and yes we also live in eternity so it's inevitable that this will be reached eventually, but as soon as it's reached it can't be held here anymore. Duality will become non-duality.

@Kensho Levels of consciousness that are needed to automatically know all happenings of duality are levels which the human body wouldn't survive. You would have to die physically beforehand or could possibility have it for brief moments and then it's forgotten. Conspiracy theories are created out of fear and ended by love and compassion towards the victims of the conspirators, if they happen to be true.

@Abc109 The best is yet to come.

It could be based in compassion and love, helping others and reducing suffering. @Jahmaine Absolutely get your point here, I come across this all the time. They simply assume that there is no evidence and I understand why they do, because there usually is no hard evidence. Hard evidence is very easy to make disappear. It's the circumstancial evidence that's huge in many cases and people dismiss it because they look at each and every piece independently and so the theory loses credit for them due to lack of this hard evidence. While people who look at the whole or a big part of the evidence that's out there may start to notice that many of these theories can't be that far off. I mean we have to really be honest here. There were conspiracy theories that were proven to be true, like Epsteins case for example. Now how many people and children could have been saved and helped if these theories were not so easily dismissed.

Yeah, should the masses finally wake up they'll have a lot to reconsider...

In my view it's not quite as yellowish as it could be since they completely dismiss to actually understand the person talked about but impose their model onto them. It's literally like they are imposing their own filter of their worldview upon the other person. It's simply not true that Icke for example jumps back and forth from being fearful of the bad to being uplifted by the good, this is a very narrow and undeveloped view of the matter. You can be absolutely uplifted by the good and yet look into the bad, into the shadows without being fearful of them simply shining the light of consciousness on to them. It's like exactly the point nobody understand in many domains. For example Teal Swans focus on the shadows is interpreted as "wrong" because of this narrow view. Or people simply don't get that non-duality includes duality. As above so below. transforming the shadows is what reveals the most powerful light, they are here for a reason. Duality is our training grounds.

Great video, which might give you guys some insight on her.